CSS - Strange Text Sizing Behavior
Hi all,
I'm building my first experimental CSS site, and I'm trying to attain accessibility for the widest array of users. While testing various browser settings, I came across this issue. (I'm looking at the site in IE, as I'm at work. I'll be able to look it over in other browsers when I get home.) When my site is viewed with text set to "Medium," everything appears fine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/251449...in/photostream/ When my site is viewed with text set to "Larger," the text in the middle left section doesn't fit: http://www.flickr.com/photos/251449...in/photostream/ Fair enough. But here's what has me stumped: when the site is viewed with the text set to "Largest," it fits again: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25144998@N00/4997174984/ I've learned alot very quickly in the last week or so, but this really has me over a barrel. Any ideas? CSS Code: body { background-color: #393939; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 100%; margin: 0; padding: 0; } .header { text-align: right; font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.6em; } .clickables { text-align: right; font-weight: bold; font-size: 0.95em; } .content { text-align: right; font-size: .8em; } .navbutton { float: right; width: 5em; background-color: #ffcc00; color: #666666; height: 1em; text-align: right; font-weight: bold; font-size: 0.95em; margin: .75em 0.2em .75em 0em; } #mother { margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; min-width: 720px; max-width: 1000px; width:expression(document.body.clientWidth > 1000? "1000px": "auto" ); width:expression(document.body.clientWidth < 500? "500px": "auto" ); } #UpperLeftWrapper { float: left; width: 35%; background-color: #7d7d7d; } #UpperLeft { height: 8em; margin: 0; background-color: #7d7d7d; } #UpperRightWrapper { float: right; width: 65%; background-color: #666666; } #UpperRight { float: right; width: 7em; height: 7em; margin: 0; padding: .5em; background-color: #666666; color: #ffcc00; } #MiddleLeftWrapper { float: left; width: 35%; background-color: #ffd426; } #MiddleLeft { float: right; width: 8em; height: 1.2em; color: #7d7d7d; background-color: #ffd426; margin: 0; padding: 0.6em; } #MiddleRightWrapper { float: left; width: 65%; background-color: #ffcc00; } #MiddleRight { float: right; width: 24.85em; height: 2.45em; background-color: #ffcc00; margin: 0em .6em 0em 0em; } #LowerLeftWrapper { float: left; width: 35%; background-color: #e5e5e5; } #LowerLeft { float: right; width: 5.8em; height: 75em; color: #7d7d7d; background-color: #e5e5e5; padding: 0.7em; } #LowerRightWrapper { float: left; width: 65%; background-color: #ffffff; } #LowerRight { float: right; height: 88em; color: #666666; background-color: #ffffff; padding: 0.8em 1.1em 2em 2em; } HTML Code: <!DOCTYPE html> <HTML> <HEAD> <META CHARSET="UTF-8"> <title>layout three</title> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="comp.css" /> </HEAD> <BODY> <div id="mother"> <div id="UpperLeftWrapper"> <div id="UpperLeft" class="header"> </div> </div> <div id="UpperRightWrapper"> <div id="UpperRight" class="header"> <p>demonstration<br>layout<br>number two</p> </div> </div> <div id="MiddleLeftWrapper"> <div id="MiddleLeft"> <div class="clickables"> <p>additional reading</p> </div> </div> </div> <div id="MiddleRightWrapper"> <div id="MiddleRight"> <div class="navbutton"> <p>tab one</p> </div> <div class="navbutton"> <p>tab two</p> </div> <div class="navbutton"> <p>tab three</p> </div> <div class="navbutton"> <p>tab four</p> </div> <div class="navbutton"> <p>tab five</p> </div> </div> </div> <div id="LowerLeftWrapper"> <div id="LowerLeft" class="clickables"> <p> first link<br> second link<br> third link<br> fourth link<br> fifth link<br> sixth link<br> seventh link<br> eighth link<br> </p> </div> </div> <div id="LowerRightWrapper"> <div id="LowerRight" class="content"> <p> Body content here... </p> </div> </div> </div> </BODY> </HTML> Thanks in advance for any advice! Similar TutorialsHi. I have noticed a strange behavior with my CSS and I cannot figure out a way to fix it. I have some css to override the body tag style. It sets the font family and size. I need to do this. However, when I use the font-size in the body, it adds extra pixels to a set of span tags that I use. (see attached picture). Here is my code. Does anyone know how I can include the font-size in the body, but not have that extra space in my div tags? Note: the sample image contains images on the edge of the tabs, but their presence has no effect on the issue. Also, this is for IE 6 on Windows. Thanks, Dave Code: <html> <head> <style> body { font-family: Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; /* with this line, extra space appears */ } .tab_off { height:17px; overflow:hidden; cursor:hand; } .tab_off_text { background:#ACA899; height:15px; font-size:10px; border-top:1px solid #aaaaaa; border-bottom:1px solid #ECECEC; padding-left:4px; padding-right:4px; vertical-align:middle; } .tabbed_panel { background:#ECE9D8; border-left:1px solid #666666; border-bottom:1px solid #666666; border-right:1px solid #666666; width:400px; height:400px; } </style> </head> <body> <div id="pnlTabs"> <span class="tab_off"> <span class="tab_off_text">Tab One</span> </span> </div> <div id="pnlContent" class="tabbed_panel"></div> </body> </html> I have a very strange quirk going on with my development site right now. It's being developed locally so I can't provide a link to test with. However, I can describe the exact behavior. When any browser is maximized, everything looks great. If you size the browser, dragging any corner in any direction, again, the site looks great. However if you hit the restore down button on any browser, the following occurs: (Example) Browser max is 1900 x 1080. Browser 'restore down' is 1024x768. When hitting restore down the site looks fine at first glance. However, if you drag the horizontal scroll bar down at the bottom of the browser to the right, a large white gap appears in place of the header, the menu, the body, the footer where the background should be. (On the links below you will need to add an h t t p : / / to see the image issues I'm having. For some reason, I can't post any and it's really the only way I can show how this issue is occurring. Here is what it looks like before dragging horizontal bar: img21.imageshack.us/img21/2602/beforedrag.jpg Here is the strange gap pictu img31.imageshack.us/img31/6199/strangegap.jpg Again, if I grab the corner of the browser itself and drag diagonally and resize, the background fills and stretches exactly the way it should. Anyone have an idea of what might be causing it? I'm using a div container as a wrapper: div#container { text-align: center; margin: 0 auto; } Header contains a flash file. Menu contains: background-image: url(/images/menu-background.gif); background-repeat: repeat-x; My main nav content is in a smaller container: #nav-main { position:inherit; white-space:nowrap; width:913px!important; font-family:helvetica, sans-serif; margin: auto auto!important; } Any ideas for what I need to do to fix this? Many thanks. Well strange on IE 5.2 for mac (I am assuming others are ficked too) I have a div in which I want to put paragraphs in... Code: <html> <head> <style type="text/css"> #midRight { position:relative; top:20px; left:160px; width:550px; padding:0px; margin:0px; border:1px solid black; } </style> </head> <body> <div id="midRight"> <p>line1</p> <p>line2</p> <p>line3</p> <p>line4</p> <p>line5</p> </div> </body> </html> Everything works fine on firefox (as one would expect) but on IE the first paragraph displays fine (at the left edge of the DIV) but all the rest indent themselves to the right by 160px (or whatever I change the left:xx px; of the div to. This is bizzare! I cant work out why the first one would be fine but all the rest indented. Anybody know how I can fix this? (so IE looks like this) Code: line 1 line2 line3 line4 line5 etc Hi. I have a nav bar on my site which I created using Suckerfish Dropdowns. my <UL>-s id is "nav". Everything is working when I hide secong level list by Css: Code: ul ul{display:none;} But when I change it to (so as to not hide all second level lists) Code: ul#nav ul{display:none;} , the browser still hides the list, but didn't show it on hover! : Code: li:hover ul, li.sfhover ul{ display: block; } This behaviour seems very strange for me. Can anyone explain me that? The address of the page is http://www.dinal.ru/new/ Thank you. Artashes I'm currently working on the CSS template for a new client and running into a strange issue. The design calls for a separation bar of repeated background to resemble a negative strip (site is a portfolio piece for a commercial photographer), and below that the continuation of a gradation. For some reason, however, in Mozilla-based browsers a gap (visually as if it was a top margin) is appearing in the background repeat (gradation) in the pageblock. To see it, visit http://www.spearsphotography.com/test_index.html in Firefox or another Moz browser. The strange thing is... I noticed the contained news items were not being pushed down (that is to say, it wasn't a margin issue). I tried changing the CSS definition of the background image position on the div, etc. Finally to see exactly where the browser was drawing the div, I set a 1px green border on #pageblock. Oddly enough it fixed it! (weird, huh?) This is especially strange since the float: right; div with the splash image -is- affected by the mysterious "margin". You can see that by going to http://www.spearsphotography.com/test_index2.html. (Contains an inline style to add the border to #pageblock The css file is at http://www.spearsphotography.com/css/style.css I just don't get it. This was all coming together so quickly from the Photoshop mockups, and now a brick wall that is driving me mad. Hello there. I'm afraid I can't provide a live example because it's a complicated commission that hasn't yet been published, but I'll try to be as specific and detailed as possible. My overall aim: To have a squarish div on the left hand side and a few short rectangular divs vertically stacked on the right hand side of a container. The container is a div whose width is known. The stacked rectangles must have a minimum width but there is some margin for error. All these divs are separated by margins. Code: OOOO === OOOO OOOO === OOOO OOOO === There are other, unrelated blocks above and below this arrangement, and there are blocks nested within these divs as well, all unrelated though. So how did I implement this? I figured this was simple enough: Code: <div> ... <div class="left-square">...</div> <div class="right-short-rectangle">...</div> <div class="right-short-rectangle">...</div> <div class="right-short-rectangle">...</div> ... </div> And the CSS would then look something like this: Code: .left-square { width: 100px; height: ...px; float: left; } .right-short-rectangle { margin-left: 110px; margin-bottom: 5px; height: ...px; } So, this works just fine in Firefox and Internet Explorer. However, for some reason, Chrome doesn't like it. What Chrome does is, it completely ignores the margin on the right-short-rectangles, placing them underneath the floating left-square, but giving them the correct width (the width of the container minus the margin). By fooling around with the DOM inspector, I discovered that if I remove the margin attribute from one of the rectangles, they show correctly (in Chrome). However, they obviously will break in Firefox and Internet Explorer if I do that. Also, if I remove the float attribute from the square, Chrome suddenly recognizes the margins of the rectangles properly (when it no longer matters). So, does anyone have any idea about what's going on here? EDIT: I just noticed this and it is certainly relevant: The right-short-rectangles contain a few *unstyled* divs and one div that is floated to the RIGHT (in other words, content I want to have on the right hand side of each of these rectangles). Without this inner, right-floated div, the margin issue no longer happens in Chrome. The inner div is, however, essential. What can I do? Use tables? I haven't seen this one before. And I can't for the life of me figure out what could be causing this. Take a look at This Page To see what I'm talking about, you'll need to view it in a good browser first (Mozilla, Netscape, Opera) Then look in IE. Basically there's an H3 that also serves as a link to my RSS Feed page. You don't see it in IE unless you actually hover the mouse over it. Even then, if you move the mouse over the menu on the left, the heading disapears again. At first I thought it could be because it was a heading, but on another page a regular link does it too. I've got two stylesheets, and it does it on both. Any thoughts or suggestions? Here's the main stylesheet This pertains to the "last nail in the coffin" so to speak in cross-browser compatability with the template for this site. The template is at http://www.spearsphotography.com/test_index.html The effect in question is on paragraph tags in the news item elements under the pagebody id div. (e.g., #pageblock div.story p ). Essentially, in every browser -except- IE Windows, the line spacing is as intended by the design. In IE6Win (haven't tested 5, but assume same) the lines are too-tight. Can anyone see the problem here, or has experienced this before? CSS File is at: http://www.spearsphotography.com/css/style.css Thanks. Hello, I am having an issue with some background images. Ive finally decided on a method to create my rounded corners. I am using three divs, a top bottom and center content div. The top and bottom divs have a background image for the top and bottom portions of the curved box. The center div contains the content and a background image repeating along the x-axis. Problem is, the image repeating stops just shy of the top and bottom images. Is there a way to solve this? When I place a border around the center div, the repeating image portion suddenly fills in the gaps, which I don't quite understand. Here is a link to a development area where I am displaying the problem: http://www.ioforge.com/ezt-example/index.html I have a big div container. In this container, I put my content - mostly text. I have a nested div in this container that floats a "sidebar" to the upper-left corner of the container. The sidebar is set up to allow text in the container to fill in around the bottom half of the side bar if the sidebar is shorter than the length of the container. My problem occurs when I have an unordered list as part of my content. If I have an unordered list sitting to the right of the sidebar, the bullets of the list sit immidiately on the right the left of the sidebar (with no indenting). Below the sidebar, all bulleted lists starts indenting from the left of the container, as expected. One solution would be to put my content in it's own div, that would be completely separate from the sidebar div. However, if I do this, my content won't fill in around the bottom of my sidebar. Any advice? Thanks! - Ryan Hi there. I have a blank space that appears as a link when my animated T-R MENU button is clicked. Click here to view the problem It didn't do this in the last version of FF... I can't see why it's doing it, there aren't blank spaces in the code to make it behave this way. Opera, Safari and IE view it fine. Just FF3 that's doing it. Can anyone shed some light on why it's doing this or how to fix it? Thanks in advance. Hello to all, I have a problem of compatibility when using Safari (V3). I have a strange interface and i can't identify the problem. When I refresh my page,I don't have the same css !!!! The same interface is testing wit hFirefox and IE and it's ok. Can you help me please. Thank you in advance for your time. This is not too important but my site (http://www.o0matte0o.myby.co.uk/) Sorry nearly fixed it sorry just gotta work out how to get the background to cover the text aswell Is there anyway to stop someone from changing the text size with their browser? Before everyone starts shouting "NO DON'T DO THIS!", I don't want to do it for everything. I have some buttons that are created with CSS and lose the formating when the text size is changed. I tried adding: Code: font-size:8pt; but that didn't work. i want to fit in my 'Did you know?' panel beside my ad, but i'm having a lot of trouble... the ad is 468x60. here is the panel: Code: <div class='ocontentsection panelmargins floatleft' style='margin-left:8px; height:101px; width:167px;'> <h2 class='aligncenter' style='text-indent:0;'> Did you know? </h2> <div class='contenttext' style='font-size:9px;'> <p class='nomargins'> <?php $tips = array( "The formula generating your VIPortals Score is: <strong>Games Played * 2 + Votes Casted * 3 + Comments Added * 4 + (Games Played + Votes Casted + Comments Added) * 5</strong>", "The money awarded to the winners of every contest comes from the <strong>advertisers</strong> who are paying us to place their ads here." ); $rand_index = round(rand(0, count($tips) - 1)); echo $tips[$rand_index]; ?> </p> </div> </div> look here in the middle of the page i want the text to fit inside the box too :S is there a better way of doing this? as you can see, i had to set a bunch of widths and stuff... thanks. Isnt it annoying when you have created a fantastic design with unordered list menus, its looks very fantastic then you open it up on someone elses browser and the design breaks because they have increased/descreased the text size through the browser. One alternative to this is to use text sizes that prevent modifying the text size through browser. However, this doesnt FIX the problem, it only prevents it which means old lady wont be able to read your site. My main problem is the fact that I have background images and when I increase text size, the text increases, but the background images to steatch with the content. Anyway to fix this? OK, this is a new one to me. I'm building my first CSS-only site, and am quite happy with the way it's going, but have discovered something quite odd today. When viewed with IE, the browser handles text selection VERY oddly, not allowing users to highlight a block of text to, say, copy to the clipboard. Try it yourself: http://www.theatrebayarea.org/v2/ Any idea what this is about? It's not a huge bug, but I'd like to be able to fix it. Needless to say, non-IE browsers handle it fine. -D Hi all, I have the following div definition: Code: .adddet { position:absolute; top:50px; width:450px; right:5px; padding:5px; border:1px solid black; background:white; } in my stylesheet.css and the following block of code in my php script: Code: <a name='details'> <div class='adddet'> <b>Your details:</b><br><br> <form name=login action='newcart.php#details' method=post> E-mail address: <input type=text name=email> <input type=submit name=act value='I am a new customer'><br> I am a returning customer and my password is: <input type=password name=pass> <input type=submit name=act value='Go'></form> <small><a href='javascript:showrem();'>Forgot password?</a></small> </div> What I want is for the link 'Forgot your password?' to appear next to the 'Go' button at the bottom of the div. This is does if it's just plain text without the anchor tags. As soon as I add the anchor tags (as above) the text leaps to the top of the div in (seemingly) it's own box with a 1px black border around it. To see a demonstration, have a look at www.pennymead.com/demo.php Full source for the above page is below: Code: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <link href="stylesheet.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /> </head> <body> <a name='details'><div class='adddet'> <b>Your details:</b><br><br> <form name=login action='#' method=post> E-mail address: <input type=text name=email> <input type=submit name=act value='I am a new customer'><br>I am a returning customer and my password is: <input type=password name=pass> <input type=submit name=act value='Go'></form> <small><a href='javascript:showrem();'>Forgot password?</a></small> </div> </body> </html> One final note is that this only seems to happen in Internet Explorer, certainly Google Chrome shows the text in the expected position. Many thanks in advance for any help you can give with this. Regards, vsource. Take a look at Forgot your password link is ghosted. Some research indicated this might be the ghost text bug caused by <!-- comments --> but I have removed all comments from the page except for one for ie conditionals. The page is at http://sportshook.com/ . View it on IE7. If you have experience with this bug please help me. Thank you!!! Aen |