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CSS - How Can I Use Css To Get This Simple Layout Behavior?
Okay I am trying my best to let go of HTML tables and move to the wonderful world of using CSS for layout. I continue to find that, although it may be an archaic way of doing things, most of the time using tables for layout is the quickest and most accurate way for me to get the job done.
Please don't hate, because I want to become more knowledgeable at using CSS! So in my latest project I have a problem. I have a navigation bar that stretches always accross my page. In that navigation bar I have two primary things: on the left I have a menu section, and on the right I have a login section. In the past I would have easily implemented the layout with tables, using something like this... <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="width:100%;"> <tr style="background-color: black;"> <td align="left">[stuff for my menu section]</td> <td align="right">[stuff for my login section]</td> </tr> </table> The end result would be a solid black navigation bar that would contain the stuff for the menu section on the left and the stuff for the login section on the right. Each would sit inside and flush against its respective side of the containing solid black navigation bar. Also, this navigation bar would automatically adjust its height to contain both sections, no matter how tall. Pretty simple stuff, right? So now I am trying my best to figure out how to do this with CSS. At this point I have only a very crude understanding of how CSS and divs work in layouts. I started out by making a container div... <div id="NavigationBar" style="background-color:black;"> </div> ...then I embedded a div for each section... <div id="NavigationBar" style="background-color:black;"> <div id="MenuSection"> [stuff for menu section] </div> <div id="LoginSection"> [stuff for login section] </div> </div> ...When I ran the page I quickly noticed the output was quite different than what I expected. It showed my black navigation bar, but it stacked the login section along the left side and just under the menu section. So after some reading I discovered I should be able to solve the problem by assigning 'float:left' to the menu section div and 'float:right' to the login section div. And so I did. While this did cause each to appear in the correct location (menu section on the left, login section on the right), it also had an undesirable effect. Each section, after attachment of the 'float' styles, was no longer contained in the parent div. As a result each no longer contained the background color of the parent. And so now, while I have a partial solution, I am still left wondering what I should do to continue on and solve this issue. What I really need is for each section to be *contained* within the parent div and also use its background color, while also aligning properly to the left or right sides of the parent div. In other words, I want the black background color of the navigation bar to be shown behind my menu and login sections. And if my menu should render at 40 pixels high, 300 pixels high...whatever, the containing parent div should adjust to contain it, just like an HTML table would. For me, setting 'height' values for the parent div (essentialy in the background) and then using 'float' styles is not a good solution. What if the menu is rendered using a different font and thus changes heights? And even more important, what if a user does not view the page in standard 96DPI mode? In either case the rendered heights of the menu and login sections could change. If I were using tables this would not be a problem; the table would simply adjust to the needed height, no matter what. How can I get the same effect when using CSS and divs? Similar TutorialsHi really nw to using css just starting out today lol. So i was wondering how i can get the two divs mod1 and mod2 to sit side by side and expand the advBar div height when more and more content gets added to both divs, rather than me specifying a height and floating the two divs inside the advbar div ? any ideas would be great. unless ive lost yas. Code:
<body>
<div id="level0">
<div id="level1">
<div id="topBar">This is the top navigation bar.</div>
<div id="advBar">
<div id="mod1">2323 frwef sdf</div>
<div id="mod2">s dfs dfsd fsd fsd f</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
Code:
body {
margin:0px 0px 0 0px;
padding:0;
background:#FFF;
}
#level0 {
background:#FC0;
}
#level1 {
padding-left:9px;
padding-right:9px;
margin-left:300px;
margin-right:300px;
background:#FFF;
}
#main {
background:#CCC;
}
#topBar {
padding: 10px;
background:#FC0;
}
#advBar {
padding: 10px;
height: 90px;
background:#FFF3AC;
}
#mod1 {
border: 1px solid red;
float: left;
padding: 10px;
background:#FFF3AC;
width: 45%;
}
#mod2 {
border: 1px solid red;
float: right;
padding: 10px;
background:#FFF3AC;
width: 45%;
}
Quote: I just started working with CSS again, and I'm having problems coding my layout. The problem is he I'm testing on Firefox. div#wrapper is the problem. EDIT well, after playing with it some more, I have found out that this has no pattern to it at all, its pretty much just producing random results, so infinitely STUPID!!! Seriously. This is something that is so simple, and yet these idiots who come up with this crap make it so difficult. If you want to pad left and right, it shouldn't be this goddamn difficult. Sorry, I'm VERY pissed now, after working on something so basic for so long. I can only get a padding on the right for so far, and then it skips over to completely aligning to the right, while the left is so much farther over, even if it has smaller padding... what the hell. Heres the full code: index.html Code: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <head> <title>Elemental Concepts</title> <link rel="stylesheet" href="style.css" type="text/css"> </head> <body> <div id="wrapper"> <div id="upperwrapper"> <div id="banner"></div> <div id="memberswrapper"> <div id="members"> </div> <div id="membersfooter"></div> </div> </div> </div> </body> style.css Code:
body {
text-align: center;
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
background-color: #E8E8E8;
}
div#wrapper {
width: 700px;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 0px 50px 0px 25px;
text-align: left;
background-image: url('mainbg.jpg');
height: 100%;
}
div#upperwrapper {
width: 741px;
margin: 0;
height: 105px;
}
div#banner {
float: left;
width: 471px;
height: 105px;
background-image: url('banner.jpg');
}
div#memberswrapper {
float: right;
width: 249px;
height: 105px;
}
div#members {
width: 249px;
height: 98px;
background-image: url('membersbg.jpg');
}
div#membersfooter {
width: 249px;
height: 7px;
background-image: url('membersfooter.jpg');
}
div#wrapper, is the main div, which has a background. I need the insides spaced about 15 px from the left, and 15 px from the right. But for whatever reason, it usually ends up spacing 25 px from the left, and 5 from the right, the more I play with the numbers though, to get the results I want, the more obscure it becomes... it just WILL NOT do what I want, and WILL NOT follow any logical pattern with how it display. Help is really appreciated. I am completely and utterly lost... EDIT 2: Still working on it, and no progress, except the background image keeps disappearing every time I even think about touching the background attribute! I'm about to say **** it, and use tables. This is ridiculous. I just opened up IE6, and it looked even more obscure than it does in Firefox. This makes no sense. I just read a few tutorials on div padding, doesn't mention anything about this. Maybe its the floats causing the problem... but I don't see why elements on the inside could stretch the containing element, if it has fixed size and padding, and that still doesn't explain the IE6 problem's, which I'm not even going to get into now... since I have probably confused you enough already. I seriously think I could write an entire HTML/ CSS parsing engine, in any language, in less time than it would take me to code this layout properly in HTML/ CSS. Ridiculous. Well, I got the top working in Firefox, instead of floating left and right, the banner and memberswrapper, I floated one left, and the other had a left-margin. Though, I am almost 100% sure, the text, and other divs below are not going to align properly, with the edges of the above [banner and memberswrapper]. I am also afraid to see what this looks like in IE6. style.css Code: body {
text-align: center;
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
background-color: #E8E8E8;
}
div {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}
div#wrapper {
width: 725px;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 0 25px 0 25px;
text-align: left;
background: url('mainbg.jpg');
}
div#upperwrapper {
width: 741px;
margin: 0;
height: 105px;
}
div#banner {
float: left;
width: 471px;
height: 105px;
background: url('banner.jpg');
}
div#memberswrapper {
margin-left: 477px;
width: 249px;
height: 105px;
}
div#members {
width: 249px;
height: 98px;
background: url('membersbg.jpg');
}
div#membersfooter {
width: 249px;
height: 7px;
background-image: url('membersfooter.jpg');
}
Edit Again: Looks just as bad as it did before, in IE6. The background image repeats horizontally, which it should have absolutely no reason to do so, the width is 50 pixels less than the images width, and the padding on the left and the right, are each 25 pixels, accounting for the full image size... and yet the full image and then some is displayed. If screen shots would help, I can take some. Or if you want to see what an impossible layout to code looks like, I can send you a zip of everything. Theres 2 options left, tables or absolute positioning. Hi, I'm trying to constuct what, in real terms, is a simplistic page layout using CSS-P. Maybe I'm being stupid - but here goes... I am trying to constuct a page as follows: header (viewport width) leftMenu (width 150px) content (as wide as necessary) - top aligned with top of leftMenu footer (viewport width) - underneath the "tallest" of "Left Menu" and "Content" Easy huh? But, as soon as any content is greater than [viewportWidth - 150] (150=width of leftMenu), the content (depending, of course, on the CSS implementation) either slips below the leftMenu, disappears altogether(?), or has the footer right underneath the header with everything else below. I could do this with a simple table construct in under a minute. So please - CSS gurus, can you advise me how to achieve this in CSS, as it seems impossible (10 hours+)? I thought CSS was supposed to make design easy; If I'm not missing something and CSS can't achieve this (common) basic layout - what hope is there? All comments truly appreciated, HEX. I am working on this website : http://five-art.com and the code for the nav bar is : Code: <div class="content"> <table><tr><td><h1>[5]Art</h1></td><td class="navtop"> :: <a href="index.php">Call for Submissions</a> :: <a href="ms.php">Mission Statement</a> :: <a href="past.php">Event Archive</a> :: <a href="members.php">Members</a> :: <a href="contact.php">Contact Us</a>.</td></tr></table> </div> I added the table so that I could have two different font sizes without the text going to the next line. What would be the best way to do this with css. Thanks! Need a bit of CSS guidance I would like somefeed back on what is a good way to structure a page template using CSS I would like the page content to be displayed 780 px width, Centered Header image at top 780 px wide Horzontal Nav below 780 px wide also 2 columns of content below footer at bottom Im sure this is a common layout as I have seen it on many sites. Im just not sure what the optimal way to set it up using divs. SEO being my primary concern Here is the layout: Code: <body> <div id="main"> <div id="header"> headet stuff here </div> <div id="nav"> the nav </div> <div class="content"> <div id="left_content"> left content </div> </cfif> <div id="right_content"> right </div> </div> <div id="footer"> footer </div> </div> </body> STYLE SHEET: Code: #main{
position: relative;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
width: 780px;
}
#header {
position: relative;
width: 780px;
height: 100px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
background-color:#8787d5;
}
#nav {
position: relative;
width: 780px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border-top: 1px solid #ffffff;
background-color:#8787d5;
background-image:url(../images/nav_bg.png);
}
.content {
position: relative;
top: 0px;
left: 0px;
border-left: 1px solid #8787d5;
border-right: 1px solid #8787d5;
border-top: 1px solid #8787d5;
border-bottom: 1px solid #8787d5;
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
background-color:#e9e9f5;
}
#left_content {
position: relative;
border-left: 1px solid #8787d5;
border-right: 1px solid #8787d5;
border-top: 1px solid #8787d5;
border-bottom: 1px solid #8787d5;
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
left: 5px;
top: 5px;
width: 325px;
padding: 0;
}
#right_content {
position: relative;
border-left: 1px solid #8787d5;
border-right: 1px solid #8787d5;
border-top: 1px solid #8787d5;
border-bottom: 1px solid #8787d5;
top: 5px;
left:335px;
width: 440px;
padding: 0;
}
#footer {
position: relative;
padding: 20px 10px 10px 10px;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: xx-small;
color: #993300;
text-align: center;
}
THe problem I am having is when I use relative position for left-content and right_content the right content is positioned to right of but at the bottom of the left_contetn div. I can get them to line up correctly using absolute positioning but then the content div that contains them and that also has the border and backgrond color does not expand vertically to to contain the left_content and right_content divs. any help is greatly appreciated thankya Hi. I'm making a registration and login pages with some additional information, and I'm wondering how to make them tableless? What I'd do with tables is put table in a table, because I want to do something like this: A 640px (or any other value) width box in the center of the screen, in which there is another box under some text, which is borderless login box. Same would go for the registration box. And without tables - I have no idea how to do it. Not sure if this is the right section, sorry if it isn't. Thanks. Hi all, This is my first post here so go easy on me. Firstly, please look at this: h ttp://digitalformula.net/temp/layout.jpg - I can't post a proper URL since I'm a new user ... sorry for the space at the start of the address. Anyway, the top part is what I have now and the bottom part is what I'm trying to get to. Can someone please assist with the CSS for this? I know just enough CSS to be dangerous but I can't seem to find the right way to put the captions under the images without the image on the right dropping below the image and caption on the left. I've tried all different types of float etc but nothing seems to work - I know it's something I'm doing wrong as this is probably one of the more basic questions posted here. ANY help would be much appreciated! Thanks, digitalformula I've been working in CSS, man, is it tiresome for a beginner! After much trail and error, I've come up with my first CSS page. Where I'm stuck, is in the area where all the text is. When I put more text into that page, none of the surrounding styles/boxes[?] adjust to the text format (also shown in a link below), and I can't seem to figure out how to center the entire page itself. Sorry, for the stupid questions, I'm a total novice, and can barely understand most of the CSS postings in this forum. Text extending instead of expanding layout: http://rafia.info/css/layers.bad.htm Thanks sincerely, rups27 hey all, i am new to using CSS. (Yes i am very much behind the times). But i am trying to rectify that! Now the problem i am having is that i have a flash object that i simply want to align centered horizontally and it stays centered no matter what. but i would also like to position it y = 100 (x and y positioning) any ideas! sorry for the double post - reworded the question and reposted. Go to this page in Firefox 1.5, and view the post titled "The Definition of a Know-it-All". Notice that the first letter of this post does not line up with the second line as it should. The line itself has moved one or two pixels up. This bug appears to be triggered by these factors (all must be present):
Firefox 1.5
First letter is floated
First letter is "I"
Paragraph is two lines long
Browser is in Standards mode
It looks fine in 1.0.7. It looks fine when the letter is not "I". It looks fine if the paragraph is longer than two lines. And it looks fine if you disable the DOCTYPE tag! What could be causing this? And is there a workaround I could use? Why is this? Code: <div style='margin:0 0px 5px 3px;text-align:center;background-color:#EEEEEE;padding:4px 0;border:2px solid #CCCCCC;'> <span style='color:#888888;font-weight:bold;font-size:10px;'> RECENT BLOGS </span> </div> different than this? Code: <div style='margin:0 0px 5px 3px;text-align:center;background-color:#EEEEEE;padding:4px 0;border:2px solid #CCCCCC;'> <span style='color:#888888;font-weight:bold;font-size:10px;'>RECENT BLOGS</span> </div> Why is IE7 adding its own padding when i don't add a nl between the span and the content within the span? It's the display:block issue that also happens with images. But I just can't understand why IE7 would add spacing there, the 2 above are almost identical. Hi. I have noticed a strange behavior with my CSS and I cannot figure out a way to fix it. I have some css to override the body tag style. It sets the font family and size. I need to do this. However, when I use the font-size in the body, it adds extra pixels to a set of span tags that I use. (see attached picture). Here is my code. Does anyone know how I can include the font-size in the body, but not have that extra space in my div tags? Note: the sample image contains images on the edge of the tabs, but their presence has no effect on the issue. Also, this is for IE 6 on Windows. Thanks, Dave Code:
<html>
<head>
<style>
body
{
font-family: Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;
font-size:11px; /* with this line, extra space appears */
}
.tab_off
{
height:17px;
overflow:hidden;
cursor:hand;
}
.tab_off_text
{
background:#ACA899;
height:15px;
font-size:10px;
border-top:1px solid #aaaaaa;
border-bottom:1px solid #ECECEC;
padding-left:4px;
padding-right:4px;
vertical-align:middle;
}
.tabbed_panel
{
background:#ECE9D8;
border-left:1px solid #666666;
border-bottom:1px solid #666666;
border-right:1px solid #666666;
width:400px;
height:400px;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="pnlTabs">
<span class="tab_off">
<span class="tab_off_text">Tab One</span>
</span>
</div>
<div id="pnlContent" class="tabbed_panel"></div>
</body>
</html>
I set up my photo pages so that each photo is in its own "bin" div with a caption. Each bin has the same width but different heights due to different caption lengths. All of the bin divs are coded to float left, so they stack vertically when there is only enough screen width for one. When the screen is wide enough to accomodate more than one, the divs that are wrapped to the next line (so to speak) start below the tallest previous div which can leave a lot of empty space. I'm sorry if this is confusing, a perfect example of what I am talking about can be found here with a browser window over 1024px wide: http://www.bsuto.com/photoblog/2006/05/27/ And the css is he http://www.bsuto.com/internal/sheet.css Does anybody have an idea of how to eliminate the empty space? Thank you all so much. I have a very strange quirk going on with my development site right now. It's being developed locally so I can't provide a link to test with. However, I can describe the exact behavior. When any browser is maximized, everything looks great. If you size the browser, dragging any corner in any direction, again, the site looks great. However if you hit the restore down button on any browser, the following occurs: (Example) Browser max is 1900 x 1080. Browser 'restore down' is 1024x768. When hitting restore down the site looks fine at first glance. However, if you drag the horizontal scroll bar down at the bottom of the browser to the right, a large white gap appears in place of the header, the menu, the body, the footer where the background should be. (On the links below you will need to add an h t t p : / / to see the image issues I'm having. For some reason, I can't post any and it's really the only way I can show how this issue is occurring. Here is what it looks like before dragging horizontal bar: img21.imageshack.us/img21/2602/beforedrag.jpg Here is the strange gap pictu img31.imageshack.us/img31/6199/strangegap.jpg Again, if I grab the corner of the browser itself and drag diagonally and resize, the background fills and stretches exactly the way it should. Anyone have an idea of what might be causing it? I'm using a div container as a wrapper: div#container { text-align: center; margin: 0 auto; } Header contains a flash file. Menu contains: background-image: url(/images/menu-background.gif); background-repeat: repeat-x; My main nav content is in a smaller container: #nav-main { position:inherit; white-space:nowrap; width:913px!important; font-family:helvetica, sans-serif; margin: auto auto!important; } Any ideas for what I need to do to fix this? Many thanks. I'm currently working on the CSS template for a new client and running into a strange issue. The design calls for a separation bar of repeated background to resemble a negative strip (site is a portfolio piece for a commercial photographer), and below that the continuation of a gradation. For some reason, however, in Mozilla-based browsers a gap (visually as if it was a top margin) is appearing in the background repeat (gradation) in the pageblock. To see it, visit http://www.spearsphotography.com/test_index.html in Firefox or another Moz browser. The strange thing is... I noticed the contained news items were not being pushed down (that is to say, it wasn't a margin issue). I tried changing the CSS definition of the background image position on the div, etc. Finally to see exactly where the browser was drawing the div, I set a 1px green border on #pageblock. Oddly enough it fixed it! (weird, huh?) This is especially strange since the float: right; div with the splash image -is- affected by the mysterious "margin". You can see that by going to http://www.spearsphotography.com/test_index2.html. (Contains an inline style to add the border to #pageblock The css file is at http://www.spearsphotography.com/css/style.css I just don't get it. This was all coming together so quickly from the Photoshop mockups, and now a brick wall that is driving me mad. I'm not extremely familiar with CSS, as I've only used a few simple implementations of it. Please move this if it's in the wrong place, but I was wondering if it was possible to alter the behavior of <a> tags so that when clicked, instead of loading the page specified in the src, it executes a JavaScript function, providing the src for a value. It seems to me that this would be done through CSS. I could go through and replace each "src='src'" with "onClick='function(src)'", but there are far too many pages, each with far too many links, to edit. So it seems it would be easier to simply import a CSS style in each page that'll have the same effect. Any ideas? |
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