CSS - Extra Border
I am developing a website using CSS. I have created a navigation bar and associated styles. In each of the 4 menu drop downs, the third item has an extra border that stretches beyond the width and is in about the center of the item. I have reviewed, tried this, and tried that but cannot find out why the extra border occurs.
If someone could help, I would appreciate the help a great deal. You can find the developing website at tamp.trustedtechpro.com and the css at tamp.trustedtechpro.com/styles/ff3.tamp.css Thanks. Similar TutorialsMaybe I should be posting this as a reply - this is an UPDATE: I used the WC3 Validator and it found an outright error in my code. So, gosh - ignore the posting below! And, uhm, I think I'll be using that handy-dandy WC3 tool more often.... ---------- Okay - I am a CSS dope - I've been using tables and antiquated code for a long time. I'm putting together a dummy site, just for testing, and I'm trying to postiion things with DIVs, etc. Be gentle - I'm 59, and, not that damned smart... I installed Dreamweaver and have been fooling with that as it has a lot of templates with proper CSS, tips, etc. But I've never used it before, so that's another learning curve. So, I have a page on which there are some DIVs and, in one, there is an extra space - and, an extra bottom border line - in Internet Explorer. I'm not fond of IE, but that isn't the point - a lot of people use it.....and I need to know why this is happening. Here's a link to an image of what it looks like in Explorer - the line at the bottom is absent in Firefox and Chrome: Screenshot The page is just the index page at: GuyMerritt.net The CSS files looks like this: Code: body { margin: 0 0 0 0; background: #FEFEEC; height: 1000px; background: #F9F9EE; } h2 {font-family: tahoma; font-size: 12px; font-weight: normal; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 8px; color: #777772;} #header {height: 220px; background: url(../images/header_graphics.jpg); } #left-sidebar { float:left; width:20%; padding-left: 20px; } #right-sidebar { float:right; width:20%; padding-right: 20px; } #main-content {width: 54%;float: left;padding-top: 0px; } .sidebars-2 #content { width: 54%;float: left;padding-top: 10px; } #box { border-style: solid; border-width: .05em; font-family: arial; color: #777772; font-size: 13px; padding-left: 9px; padding-right: 9px; } img.example { width: 100%; max-width: 250px; height: auto; } div#slides { width: 500px; height: 280px; overflow: hidden; } div#slides div { height: 280px; width: 500px; font-size: 100px; line-height: 200px; text-align: center; color: #fff; } ul#ticker { height: 1.4em; overflow: hidden; border: solid 1px #aaa; background: #ccc; } ul#ticker li { padding: 0.2em 0; } /* @group global */ p#links { padding-top: 50px; clear: both; } a#avatar { position: absolute; bottom: 10px; right: 10px; } a#avatar img { border: none; } h1 { color: #0094d5; } a { color: #0094d5; } a:visited, a:hover { color: #00577e; } .red { background: #e40053; } .blue { background: #0094d5; } .green { background: #43aa38; } /* @end */ At the rate I'm moving, I'll be dead before I ever figure this stuff all out! If anyone could explain what's causing this I would be very grateful. And why do so many things render differently in Explorer (from Chrome and Firefox)? Thanks again, Guy Merritt, Flint, MI i'm trying to style my submit button to have a gradient background with a solid blue border. looks awesome in FF, however when I try to apply the background image to the submit button in IE (6 and 7), there will be an extra border inside of the blue border. it seems to be whatever color i set my background-color to. Code: border: 1px solid #69A2CC; background: transparent url(gradient.jpg) no-repeat scroll 0 center; Hi. Have created some simple tabs using table cells. Active tab should have bottom-border color equal to page background-color. Non-active tabs should have bottom-border=black. Works fine in IE, but does not work very well in Firefox. If I remove the border-collapse:collapse on the table, then firefox also work... but I would like to be able to keep the 1px border between each table cell. So is there a way to make this work in both IE and Firefox... and hopefully most other browsers... See code below: Code: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd"> <html> <head> <style type="text/css"> a.menu_top:link {color: #000000; text-decoration: none;} a.menu_top:visited {color: #000000; text-decoration: none;} a.menu_top:hover {color: #000000; text-decoration: none;} a.menu_top:active {color: #000000; text-decoration: none;} td.menu_top_passive { background-color: #777; border-left: 1px #000000 solid; border-right: 1px #000000 solid; border-top: 1px #000000 solid; border-bottom: 1px #000000 solid; text-align: center; cursor:pointer; font-weight: bold; padding: 5px 20px 5px 20px; margin: 0; } td.menu_top_active { background-color: #bbb; border-left: 1px #000000 solid; border-right: 1px #000000 solid; border-top: 1px #000000 solid; border-bottom: 1px #bbb solid; text-align: center; cursor:pointer; font-weight: bold; padding: 5px 20px 5px 20px; margin: 0; } </style> <script language="JavaScript"> function change(id, url) { for (i=1; i<6; i++){ eval("document.getElementById("+i+").className='menu_top_passive'"); } eval("document.getElementById("+id+").className='menu_top_active'"); } </script> </head> <body style="margin:0; padding:0; background-color:#bbb;"> <br><br> <center> 1. Load the page.<br> 2. Click Item 4.<br> 3. Click Item 2.<br><br> Why is the bottom border of the menuelements (table cells) not getting correct in Firefox?<br> None-active menuelements should have a border-bottom = black, active should have same bottom-border as page.<br> Notice that I use border-collapse on the table in order to get the cell-border 1px thick between the menuitems.<br> If I remove border-collapse, then there is no strange behaviour in Firefox.<br> Any way to get this working in Firefox without breaking it in IE? </center> <br><br><br> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="border-collapse:collapse;"> <tr> <td id="1" nowrap class="menu_top_active" onClick="change('1');"><a href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 1</a></td> <td id="2" nowrap class="menu_top_passive" onClick="change('2');"><a href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 2</a></td> <td id="3" nowrap class="menu_top_passive" onClick="change('3');"><a href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 3</a></td> <td id="4" nowrap class="menu_top_passive" onClick="change('4');"><a href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 4</a></td> <td id="5" nowrap class="menu_top_passive" onClick="change('5');"><a href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 5</a></td> </tr> </table> </body> </html> I'm a little puzzled by this weird display bug by IE7, this bug doesn't occur in IE6. It had to do with the DIV's CSS's border-style. If you set it to double then you notice some random bugs with it. Some of the time, the border is displayed without a problem. Some of the time, it is displayed with some gaps in the line as if it is not being drawn upon. Some of the other time, it is not displayed at all. I noticed if I switch from one tab to another then back, the border appeared as if nothing had happened. I also noticed that if I open the view source that overlapp the web browser then closed it, the border appeared as if nothing had happened. How do you fix that problem? Thanks... I would like to set up a table with a different border than the cells inside it. Here's my code: Code: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /> <title>Untitled Document</title> <style type="text/css"> TABLE {border: 1px solid black; border-collapse: collapse; width: 200px} TD {border: 1px solid #ccc} </style> </head> <body> <table> <tr> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </body> </html> That's all hunky dory in (gasp!) IE, but good browsers...they only show the lighter gray color. How do I get the table border to be different? Hi, This used to be my solution: Code: <table border=1 bordercolorlight='#CCCCCC' Bordercolordark='#FFFFFF'> But this only works well on IE - not Mozilla Now I want to use CSS: Code: .results { border: 1px solid #CCCCCC ; } Code: <table class='results'> --------------- The problem is, with CSS, only the TABLE acquires the border property. The cells within it don't. If I specify Code: <td class='results'> for all the cells in the table, this also won't work, because the cell borders overlap each other and some border lines seem thicker than others (because of overlapping). Is there any simple way I can specify the border property for the table - in ONE declaration? I want the table and td borders all to be a simple 1px width ...is that possible in one declaration? Thanks a lot! How do you create an inner border around a table in css, rather than a "solid" border which creates a border line around the table on the outer half. The border needs to butt up against an image, rather than leaving a pixel space. This is the coder I have so far. Nothing big: Code: .solid { border: solid 1px #000000; } Thanks. I'm working on a web site that has a jFlow slideshow (not implemented just yet) and I was mocking up a page with just a plain img in its place. When the page is viewed in FF 3.5, there is extra space to the right and bottom of the image. However, it shows as expected in IE8. I can't figure this out for the life of me. If I "use border box model" from the Google Web Developer toolbar in FF, it shows as desired as well. Here's a link to the file: http://www.websimage.com/3238/index2.html I've been trying to figure this out for a while now and I'm getting nowhere but frustrated, so any help you could provide would be *greatly* appreciated. EDIT: I've found some information regarding box-models, and have applied the -moz-box-model: border-box; which seems to have eliminated the additional space within the gray div...however, there is an additional 10px of unwanted padding on the right & left of it now. I can live with this, but I don't want to if I don't have to. Edit #2: If I take out the margin-left: auto; and margin-right: auto; (to center it) the extraneous padding is not on the left, but is added to the extraneous padding on the right. All the math adds up when it comes to the widths and padding specified for the respective "wrappers" so I'm at a loss as to what's causing this. At this URL (http://digitalspline.com/projects/gameCitadel/) You will see the lower content area in IE looks like it is right aligned, in firefox it is exactly where I want it. There is a left margin set on the two first blocks, upper left and upper right of 30pt. Code: body { background-color: #a0a0a0; background-image: url(images/index/pageBackground.gif); background-position: top; background-repeat: repeat-x; margin-top: 17px; color: #FFFFFF; } a:hover { color: #FFFF00; } #wrapper { background-color: #323333; color: #FFFFFF; width: 779px; } #topHeader { background-color: #323333; background-image: url(images/index/headerBG.gif); color: #FFFFFF; width: 779px; height: 88px; text-align: right; vertical-align: middle; font: 8pt Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; } #login { text-align: right; color: #FFFFFF; font-weight: bold; padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 10px; } .loginBox { font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9px; font-weight: bold; color: #000000; background-color: #FFFFEE; width: 100px; border: 1px solid #000000; } #mainContent { background-color: #323333; background-image: url(images/index/contentBG.gif); width: 779px; height: 700px; overflow: auto; margin-top: 7px; } #leftMenuTop { background-color: #323333; background-image: url(images/index/menuTop.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: right; width: 148px; height: 179px; float: left; padding-left: 13px; } #leftMenuTopText { width: 122px; height: 148px; float: right; margin-top: 15px; font: 9px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; } .menuText{ padding-top: 4px; } .menuLinkText{ color: #702706; text-decoration: none; } #leftMenuBot { background-color: #323333; background-image: url(images/index/menuBot.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: right; width: 148px; height: 389px; float: left; padding-left: 13px; margin-top: -80px; } #bannerBoxTop { background-color: #323333; background-image: url(images/index/bannerBG.gif); background-repeat:no-repeat; width: 492px; height: 69px; float: left; margin-left: 62px; } #bannerTop { background-color: transparent; width: 468px; height: 60px; float: right; margin-top: 4px; padding-right: 13px; } #featuredArt { background-color: #000000; width: 571px; height: 179px; float: left; margin-left: 22px; margin-top: 20px; } #featureBoxTop { background-image: url(images/index/featureBoxTop.gif); background-repeat:no-repeat; height: 15px; font: 9px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; text-align: left; text-indent: 7px; padding-top: 2px; } #featureContent{ height: 148px; } #featureBoxBot { background-image: url(images/index/featureBoxBot.gif); background-repeat:no-repeat; height: 15px; font: 9px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif } #newestBlock{ width: 571px; height: 400px; float: left; margin-top: 7px; margin-left: 22px; } #box1 { width: 150px; background-color: #000000; float: left; margin-top: 13px; margin-left: 30pt; } #box2 { width: 150px; background-color: #000000; float: left; margin-top: 13px; margin-left: 15pt; } #box3 { width: 150px; background-color: #000000; float: left; margin-top: 13px; margin-left: 15pt; } #box4 { width: 150px; background-color: #000000; float: left; margin-top: 15px; margin-left: 30pt; } #box5 { width: 150px; background-color: #000000; float: left; margin-top: 15px; margin-left: 15pt; } #box6 { height: 180px; width: 150px; background-color: #000000; float: left; margin-top: 15px; margin-left: 15pt; } .head150 { background-image: url(images/index/150header.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; font: 9px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; height: 16; text-align: left; line-height: 16px; text-indent: 5px; } .foot150 { background-image: url(images/index/150footer.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; font: 9px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; height: 15px; } .mid150 { font: 9px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; height: 149px; text-align: left; } #footer { background-color: #323333; background-image: url(images/index/footer.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; width: 779px; height: 99px; } Hi guys, I'm pretty new to CSS. I had this style sheet set up, and it was working in Firefox just fine. When I tested it on IE, the center logo instead of being approximately 15 pixels down from the top, it's right at the top. I was able to get those 15 pixels to appear in IE with 2 changes, but now there is an extra 15 pixels in Firefox, so it is down approx. 30 pixels. Can anybody see what I'm doing wrong, or provide a hack that will fix it? css Code: Original - css Code /* This CSS works in FF. I have put the changes in comments that will make it work in IE. Both changes were in the Header section. */ body { margin:0px; margin-bottom:50px; padding:0px; text-align:center; background-image:url(../images/bg-grn2.gif); } a:link {color:#0000EF;} a:active {color:#EF0000;} a:visited {color:#52188C;} div#FS-Logo { position:absolute; top:10px; left:10px; height:110px; width:100px; background:url(../images/left-logo.gif) top left no-repeat; margin:10px; padding:0; } div#FWS-Logo { position:absolute; top:10px; right:10px; height:110px; width:100px; background:url(../images/right-logo.gif) top right no-repeat; margin:10px; padding:0; } div#Header { width:300px; height:140px; /*change this to 155px*/ margin:0px auto; text-align:center; font-family:"Trebuchet MS", serif; background:url(../images/center-logo.gif) no-repeat top center;/*change this to 'no-repeat center center'*/ } div#Main-content { width:55%; height:500px; margin:0px auto; text-align:left; padding:0px; border:1px dashed #333; background-color:#ded794; font-family:verdana, sans serif; font-size:12px; } div#Left-column { position:absolute; top:155px; left:15px; width:15%; height:500px; margin:0; text-align:left; border:1px dashed #333; background-color:#ded794; font-family:verdana, sans serif; font-size:12px; } div#Right-column { position:absolute; top:155px; right:15px; width:15%; height:500px; margin:0; text-align:left; border:1px dashed #333; background-color:#ded794; font-family:verdana, sans serif; font-size:12px; } div#Footer { position:static; bottom:10px; right:15px; width:100%; margin:0; padding:0; text-align:center; font-family:verdana, sans serif; font-size:14px; } .hd-header {color:#8A4B2C;} .hd-footer {color:#000000;} .hd-main {color:#FFFFFF;} /* This CSS works in FF. I have put the changes in comments that will make it work in IE. Both changes were in the Header section. */ My html page is this. html Code: Original - html Code <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title>Page Title</title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="styles/decaid.css"> </head> <body> <div id="FS-Logo"> <p> </p> </div> <div id="Header"> <p> </p> </div> <div id="FWS-Logo"> <p> </p> </div> <div id="Left-column"> <p>Main Links Will be here</p> </div> <div id="Main-content"> <p class="hd-main">Main content is here.</p> </div> <div id="Right-column"> <p>External Links here</p> </div> <div id="Footer"> <p class="hd-footer">Footer goes here</p> </div> </body> </html> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title>Page Title</title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="styles/decaid.css"> </head> <body> <div id="FS-Logo"> <p> </p> </div> <div id="Header"> <p> </p> </div> <div id="FWS-Logo"> <p> </p> </div> <div id="Left-column"> <p>Main Links Will be here</p> </div> <div id="Main-content"> <p class="hd-main">Main content is here.</p> </div> <div id="Right-column"> <p>External Links here</p> </div> <div id="Footer"> <p class="hd-footer">Footer goes here</p> </div> </body> </html> So I am trying to move from designing in <tables> and move on to the beauty of the CSS box-model design. I have been inspired by one of the ZenGarden designs and wanted to see if I could try and duplicate it's flow. I am running into a problem. I have created the outer box "#mainBox" and nested within this I have a child "#pageHeader." Problem is that there is this big amount of space (that is present in both IE6 AND FireFox 1.0) at the bottom of "#pageHeader." See the attached pic for the exact detail. Here is my code: Code: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd"> <html><head><title>The Shalom Foundation</title> <style type="text/css"> <!-- body { text-align:center; background-color:#666666; margin:0 0 50px 0; /* top right bottom left */ } p{ padding:0; margin:0; text-align:justify; } #mainBox { float:right; margin:9px 12px 0 0; padding:0px; width:733px; text-align:left; background-color:#999999; } #pageHeader{ background: url(images/layout/header.jpg) no-repeat top left; padding:0; margin:0; text-indent: -15000px; height: 290px; overflow: hidden; } #nav{ position:absolute; right:100px; margin:0; background: url(images/layout/menu.jpg) no-repeat top left; padding:0; margin:0; width:136px; height: 302px; overflow: hidden; } --> </style> </head> <body> <div id="mainBox"> <div id="pageHeader">The Shalom Foundation</div> <div id="nav">Nav</div> <div id="contentHdr"><table width="100%" height="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="middle"><img src="images/layout/hdr_about_us.gif"></td></tr></table></div> <div id="content"><p>Magnus es, domine, et laudabilis valde: magna virtus tua, et sapientiae tuae non est numerus. et laudare te vult homo, aliqua portio creaturae tuae, et homo circumferens mortalitem suam, circumferens testimonium peccati sui et testimonium, quia superbis resistis: et tamen laudare te vult homo, aliqua portio creaturae tuae.tu excitas, ut laudare te delectet, quia fecisti nos ad te et inquietum est cor nostrum, donec requiescat in te. da mihi, domine, scire et intellegere, utrum sit prius invocare te an laudare te, et scire te prius sit an invocare te. sed quis te invocat nesciens te? aliud enim pro alio potest invocare nesciens. an potius invocaris, ut sciaris? quomodo autem invocabunt, in quem non crediderunt? aut quomodo credent sine praedicante? et laudabunt dominum qui requirunt eum. quaerentes enim inveniunt eum et invenientes laudabunt eum. quaeram te, domine, invocans te, et invocem te credens in te: praedicatus enim es nobis. invocat te, domine, fides mea, quam dedisti mihi, quam inspirasti mihi per humanitatem filii tui, per ministerium praedicatoris tui.</p></div> <div id="rightNav">rightNav</div> <div id="pageFooter">pageFooter</div> </div> </body> </html> Thanks in advanced for any help! I keep forgetting to write these little fixes down, but this is a good time to start. As usual I've come to a crossroad I cannot seem to get passed. In IE6 my layout looks fine, all but a little extra space at the top of my center div in a three column layout. Ive tried all variations of padding: 0px and margin: 0px in both the center div and its containing div. If someone could kindly point the error to me, I promise to write it down this time .. and never ask again ;0) Site: http://www.ioforge.com/development/ CSS: http://www.ioforge.com/development/includes/style.css Hi, I am new here, asked this question at another forum and never got an answer so I hope someone here can help. "Is there any way to remove 200px from the bottom of my site and keep the same layout using divs? I had to give the wide div next to the thin one a top: -208px to get it to line up with the thin one. and then I had to bring up the copyright one the same way so it lined up under them. Now I am stuck with an extra 200px under them (really it's 208, but I want an 8px space at the bottom)." Site: http://www.kendallstudios.com/index2.php CSS File: http://www.kendallstudios.com/styles/standard.css I'm having some troubles getting my div to appear correctly. WHat I want is for the div to be completely contained by a FLASH movie with no whitespace. In Firefox I'm getting an approximately 5px tall white bar at the top. TWH is the url, the flash movie only appears on the main page. My container div uses a background image with a greenish colored 200px left edge, and then a white edge to fill the rest. I know this is what's coming through, but what baffles me is that even when specifying a background color for my div it's not coming through. Here is some of the code: CSS: Code: #container { width: 760px; height: auto; margin: 0 auto; text-align: center; overflow: auto; background: url('../images/style/container_back.jpg') repeat-y; border-bottom: 20px solid #6e868f; } #lcol { width: 200px; height: 380px; float: left; text-align: left; } #nav { height: auto; background-color: #000000; width: 100%; text-align: center; } #nav ul { list-style: none; padding: 20px 0px; margin: 0px; } #nav ul li { padding: 7px; } #info { height: auto; width: 190px; text-align: center; padding: 5px; font-size: 11px; } #flashcontent { width: 560px; height: 380px; padding: 0; margin: 0; float: right; } HTML -- I've taken the content out so that the structure is more clear. Code: <div id="container"> <div id="header"> <div id="logo"></div> <div id="quote"></div> </div> <div id="lcol"> <div id="nav"></div> <div id="info"></div> </div><!--lcol--> <div id="flashcontent"> FLASH player is required to view portions of this site.<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" target="_blank"> <img src="images/logos/get_flash_player.gif" alt="FLASH player" height="31" width="88" /></a> </div> <script type="text/javascript"> var so = new SWFObject("slideshow.swf", "gallery", "560", "380", "6", "#6e868f"); so.write("flashcontent"); </script> </div><!-- end container --><br /> http://www.zombiepolitics.com Just when I thought I had this down .. I dont. I have a CSS layout .. there are two main divs side by side, the navigation rests at the top of the right div. problem is in IE 6 there is so much extra space at the top that my navigation doesnt line up with my header .. in FF its no problem. What is the workaround for this? http://josephman1988.tripod.com/ Test page. In FF, the gap between the 2 horizontal lines at the bottom is more narrow then it is in IE. Why? And how can i fix this? Thanks for the help. Joe. Um... OK so I wrote a post asking if anybody knew why something was displaying incorrectly on my site, but due to forum rules I wasn't allowed to include any links. So how can I show you the problem if I can't show you? Also, the link saying "see forum rules for more information" didn't have any more information. Like, how many posts until I can ask for help and actually show what the problem is? I'm having a weird quirk happening at the bottom of a page I am developing. There is extra space, maybe 80-100px of it, showing up at the bottom in my container div (which I have id'd as "reality"). Can anyone suggest what might be shoving all that extra space in there? html page: http://www.iainhamp.com/reality/hyborianwar.html css page:http://www.iainhamp.com/reality/reality_hyborian.css Thanks for any help you can provide. - iain For some reason, I cannot for the life of me figure out why Firefox is adding space at the top of my page. I have a container div that contains my header, body, and footer. I have done this: Code: #container{ width: 732px; margin: 0px auto; } Too me that should fix the issue. I even tried applying that code to the body{ ... } but that doesn't work either. Has anyone else gone through this before. There is no space in IE6 or IE7. Thanks, teamhonda81 |