CSS - Css Sprites In Select Menu

Hi guys

I have been reading about sprites and CSS. The fact you can load an image that contains all the state the image can have on hovers is excactly what i am looking for. also the fact that you can do it without javascript makes it even better.

But i have a problem that i need to create a menu, where the text turn blue on hover. Here it is (danish text):



As far as I know, I need to map all areas the with polygon to make the links work. And then apply sprite functionality. But I haven't seen any 'sprites and maps' tutorials, so I am beginning to think that it cant be done with CSS. But before I give up, I would like to ask you if it can be done, and maybe give me some tutorial link or suggestions.

I have tried to do some tutorials, so I think I have the basic idea.

Thanks in advance

Hi I have been making a world map with hover tooltip effects using css sprites. it works fine on ff and chrome but in ie and opera it is messed up. everything checks out to be valid xhtml and i get no errors listed anywhere. i have heard some issues with older versions of those browsers but my ie is 7 and my opera is 9.
i based my map on this tutorial so css is the same except for positioning.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites

also the master image is 800 wide and 1224 tall, maybe that is a problem?

i ma stuck and dont know what is wrong could anybody take a look and offer some advice to what is wrong or offer a suggestion?

thanks,
the map i ma referring to can be found at:
travelmagoo.com

I can't see it working (and in practice it hasn't).

Surely the background position needs to be fixed as the image is not scalable.

I hope I am right on this or it's back to the drawing board.

In the past year or two I've been playing with CSS layout techniques, and have grown to the point where I consistently use CSS instead of tables. I'm all for it. But as much as I love them, some of the trendy practices seem to be a little impractical - particularly sliding doors, sprites and the suckerfish dropdowns.

With sprites, I can see the benefits of having fewer HTTP requests and having all rollover images in one file. With suckerfish dropdowns, it's definitely nice to have the navigation and subnavigation organized into lists. Sliding doors can certainly save a lot of bandwidth and load time, and make editing graphical navigation much easier. I'm sure all of these are terrific from SEO and accessibility standpoints, too.

But the code for these techniques seems extremely convoluted and bloated. My personal experience with suckerfish dropdowns and sprites both are that they require hacks to get them to work smoothly in browsers as recent as IE6. After all is said and done, there's actually more code required to attain the same functionality that could be achieved using HTML and JavaScript.

I'm curious to see what input everyone has. I'd love to justify styling unordered lists into sliding door dropdown nav tabs with sprite backgrounds, just because I have so much fun doing it. But is it really practical?

Hi,

On all select drop down menus there is some padding around the text, if you go to www.a1-megastore.com you will see what I mean on the search at the top. Do you know how I can get rid of this?

Ian

Hi, i cannot seem to get my select box / drop down box working in all browsers... i have spent nearly a week trying to sort this and i cannot get it to work

The drop down menu does not show correctly in google chrome (mac) or safari (mac) or IE7 (PC) (there seems to be a padding issue) HOWEVER it shows fine in firefox (pc) and firefox (mac)

I have attached screenshots below of the problem and you can see my code on the following url: http://goo.gl/7XAIz



I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this, as i just can't get it to work, thanks in advance for your help...

I am working on a website for a client and I am having trouble following A List Apart's tutorial (I can't link yet).

I have a working css dropdown menu using a css sprite. But what I am trying to do, is when you mouse over a dropdown and go down the dropdown, that the parent menu remains at it's hover state. Currently what is happening is as soon as I mouseout of the parent level it goes back to the normal state.

I don't really want to post the link to the test site itself if I don't have to for client privacy.

Please help! I'm getting way too frustrated now, I've look at so many examples and nothing seems to work.

I don't even need the javascript, I just need it to work. I've experimented with javascript and without.

This is the code I am using:

javascript:
Code:

<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
startList = function() {
if (document.all&&document.getElementById) {
menuRoot = document.getElementById("menu");
for (i=0; i<menuRoot.childNodes.length; i++) {
node = menuRoot.childNodes[i];
if (node.nodeName=="LI") {
node.onmouseover=function() {
this.className+=" over";
}
node.onmouseout=function() {
this.className=this.className.replace(" over", "");
}
}
}
}
}
window.onload=startList;
//->
</script>

HTML Markup:

Code:

<div id="nav">
	<ul id="menu">		
		<li><a href="index.php" class="home"></a></li>
		<li><a href="link" class="tour"></a></li>
		<li><a href="link" class="events"></a>
			<ul class="drop">
				<li><a href="/events/calendar">Calendar</a></li>
				<li><a href="/events">Ag Science Hall of Fame</a></li>
				<li><a href="/events/tastes">TASTES</a></li>
			</ul>
		</li>
		<li><a href="news" class="news">News</a>
			<ul class="drop">
				<li><a href="link">Legislation</a></li>
				<li><a href="news/latest-news">Latest News</a></li>
				<li><a href="/news/newsletter">Newsletter</a></li>
				<li><a href="news/in-the-media">In the Media</a></li>
			</ul>
		</li>
		<li><a href="link"></a></li>
		<li><a href="link"></a></li>
	</ul>
</div>

Menu CSS:

Code:

#nav {
position: relative;
	float:left;
	width:940px;
	height:35px;
	z-index: 9;
	background: #fff;
		}	
		
#menu, #menu ul {
position: relative;
	padding:0;
	margin:0;
	clear:both;
	float:left;
	width:455px;
	z-index: 9;
	}
	
#menu ul.drop {
	background:#520006;
/*	padding:10px;*/
	width:inherit;
	clear:both;
	float:left;
	margin-top:35px;
	z-index: 9;
	}

#menu ul.drop li {
    width: 130px;
	clear:both;
	padding: 5px;
	z-index: 9;
	}
	
#menu ul.drop li:hover {
    background: #c10101;
	z-index: 9;
	}
	
#menu ul.drop a {
	
	color:#fff;
	font-size:11px;
	text-decoration:none;
	font-weight:normal;
	clear:both;
	float:left;
	z-index: 9;
	}

	
#menu a {
	display: block;
	/*width: 10em;*/
	float:left;
	clear:both;
	width:130px;
}

#menu li {
	float: left;
	/*width: 10em;*/
}

#menu li ul {
	position: absolute;
	width: 10em;
	left: -999em;
	z-index: 9;
}

#menu li:hover ul {
	left: auto;
}

#menu li:hover ul, #menu li.sfhover ul {
	left: auto;}


/*SPRITE BACKGROUP POSITIONING*/	
#menu li a.home, #menu li a.tour, #menu li a.events, #menu li a.news, #menu li a.donate, #menu li a.involved, #menu li a.resources, #menu li a.about, #menu li a.contact {
	float:left;
	background:url('images/menu.jpg') no-repeat;
	height:35px;
	text-indent:-999999px;
	}
	
#menu li a.home:hover, #menu li a.home.over {background-position: 0px -35px;}
#menu li a.home {width: 62px;}

#menu li a.tour:hover {background-position: -62px -35px;}
#menu li a.tour {width: 63px; background-position: -62px 0px;}

#menu li a.events:hover, #menu li a.events.hover {background-position: -125px -35px;}
#menu li a.events {width: 101px; background-position: -125px 0px;}

#menu li a.news:hover {background-position: -226px -35px;}
#menu li a.news {width: 80px; background-position: -226px 0px;}

#menu li a.donate:hover {background-position: -306px -35px;}
#menu li a.donate {width: 75px; background-position: -306px 0px;}

#menu li a.involved:hover {background-position: -381px -35px;}
#menu li a.involved {width: 74px; background-position: -381px 0px;}

ul {list-style: none;}

Hi,

Instead of organising an image sprite as follows:

image image image
image image image

i'm wondering if there are any negative effects to organising the images in a linear fashion as follows

image image image image image image

I know that Flash will only render images that are a certain width or height but is there any such limitations when using css sprites?



Thanks

Following sample is from http://www.code-couch.com/jeff/snippets/general/tektips-navigation-example.html
is what I am trying to reference to create a template. But how do I how keep the state of Menu on each requested page any help is appreciated. The following menu is saved in a separate jsp file i.e. navs.jsp. I include this navigation jsp file in all of my files. Initially the drop down looks like:


Code:

. Ask.Jeeves 
. [+] Google.com 
. [+] Yahoo.com

Now clicking [+] in front of Google.com will look like.

Code:

. Ask.Jeeves 
. [-] Google.com 
     . Google.co.ie
     . Google.co.ie
     . [+] Google.co.nz 
. [+] Yahoo.com

Lets's say now if I click on Google.co.ie it takes me to sample.jsp and on this requested page (sample.jsp) how can I show the following menu hierarchy with Google.co.ie bold/underlined/colorchanged showing what menu content I clicked and am viewing the appropriate content i.e.


Code:

. Ask.Jeeves 
. [-] Google.com 
     . Google.co.ie
     . Google.co.ie
     . [+] Google.co.nz 
. [+] Yahoo.com

Same way clicking Google.com or Yahoo.com or Ask.Jeeves shows you the following hierarchy on the requested page with higlight/bold/colored the link we just selected. i.e.


Code:

. Ask.Jeeves 
. [+] Google.com 
. [+] Yahoo.com

Any time clicking on the menu takes me to some page but on that page I want to show th hierarchy of the menu all the way to which is recently clicked with different color setting.

Here is the source for the above:

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en" xml:lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"/>
<meta http-equiv="content-language" content="en"/>
<title>Test Harness</title>

<style type="text/css">

ul li ul {display:none;list-style-type: none;}

#myNav li a:hover {
color: blue;
}

#myNav li a:active {
color: #FF0000;
background: #FFFFFF;
}

#myNav { list-style-image: url(page.GIF); }
</style>

<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function initNav() {
	var navObj = document.getElementById('myNav');
	var ulCollection = navObj.getElementsByTagName('li');
	for (var loop = 0; loop < ulCollection.length; loop++) {
		if(ulCollection[loop].getElementsByTagName('ul').length > 0) {
			/* we have an LI that contains a UL */
			if (ulCollection[loop].getElementsByTagName('span').length > 0) {
				/* there is at least one SPAN tag present */
				ulCollection[loop].getElementsByTagName('span')[0].innerHTML = "[<a href=\"javascript://\" onclick=\"this.innerHTML=this.innerHTML=='+'?'-':'+';temp=this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('ul')[0].style;temp.display=temp.display=='block'?'none':'block';\">+</a>] ";
			}
		}
	}
}
window.onload = initNav;
//-->
</script>

</head>
<body>
<ul id="myNav">
	<li><a href="http://www.askjeeves.com">Ask.Jeeves</a></li>
	<li><span></span><a href="http://www.google.com">Google.com</a>
		<ul>
			<li><a href="http://www.google.co.uk">Google.co.uk</a></li>
			<li><a href="http://www.google.co.ie">Google.co.ie</a></li>
			<li><span></span><a href="http://www.google.co.nz">Google.co.nz</a>
			<ul>
			   <li>*3*</li>
			   <li>*4*</li>
			</ul>
</li>
		</ul>
	</li>

	<li><span></span><a href="http://www.yahoo.com">Yahoo.com</a>
		<ul>
			<li><a href="http://www.yahoo.co.uk">Yahoo.co.uk</a></li>
			<li><a href="http://www.yahoo.co.nz">Yahoo.co.nz</a></li>
		</ul>
	</li>
</ul>
</body>
</html>

Any help is really appreciated thanks.

EDIT:: Simplier way to write the question ^.^ :: When I scroll off the menu/link onto the first link in the submenu it stays, but when I mvoe down to the next item in the submenu it disappears.
(My drop down is vertically aligned on the left.)
(bits of the code that relate to the menu)

PHP Code:
.btn1 { position: absolute; left: 165px; top: 200px; } 
.btn2 { position: absolute; left: 165px; top: 240px; }
.btn3 { position: absolute; left: 165px; top: 280px; } 
.btn4 { position: absolute; left: 165px; top: 320px; }
.btn5 { position: absolute; left: 165px; top: 360px; } 
.btn6 { position: absolute; left: 165px; top: 400px; }
.btn7 { position: absolute; left: 165px; top: 440px; } 
.btn8 { position: absolute; left: 165px; top: 480px; }
.link1 { position: absolute; left: auto; top: 240px; }
.link2 { position: absolute; left: auto; top: 280px; }
.link3 { position: absolute; left: auto; top: 320px; }
.link4 { position: absolute; left: auto; top: 360px; }
.link5 { position: absolute; left: auto; top: 400px; }
.link6 { position: absolute; left: auto; top: 440px; }
.link7 { position: absolute; left: auto; top: 480px; }
.link8 { position: absolute; left: auto; top: 520px; }
.link9 { position: absolute; left: auto; top: 560px; }

#nav, #nav ul { padding: 0; margin: 0; list-style: none; }
#nav a { display: block; width: 100px; }
#nav li { width: 100px; }
#nav li ul { position: absolute; width: 100px; left: -9999px; display: none; top: 0; z-index: 3; }
#nav li:hover ul { display: block; left: 266px; z-index: 3; }
#nav li:over ul { display: block; left: 266px; z-index: 3; } 





PHP Code:
<ul id="nav">
  <li><a href="HOBmain.htm"><img class="btn1" src="../mainbtn.gif" width="100" height="38" alt="MainBtn"></a></li>
  <li><a href="HOBmain.htm"><img class="btn2" src="../blogbtn.gif" width="100" height="38" alt="BlogBtn"></a>
    <ul>
      <li class="link1"><a href=""><img src="../mbtn.gif" alt="bMainBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link2"><a href="#"><img src="../anmbtn.gif" alt="bAnimeBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link3"><a href="#"><img src="../mgabtn.gif" alt="bMangaBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link4"><a href="#"><img src="../gmebtn.gif" alt="bGameBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link5"><a href="#"><img src="../bookbtn.gif" alt="bBookBtn"></a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
    <li><a href="HOBmuse.htm"><img class="btn3" src="../musebtn.gif" width="100" height="38" alt="MuseBtn"></a>
    <ul>
      <li class="link2"><a href="HOBmuse.htm"><img src="../mbtn.gif" alt="mMainBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link3"><a href="HOBmuse.htm"><img src="../pmbtn.gif" alt="mPoemBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link4"><a href="HOBmuse.htm"><img src="../stybtn.gif" alt="mStoryBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link5"><a href="HOBmuse.htm"><img src="../drmbtn.gif" alt="mDreamBtn"></a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
   <li><a href="HOBodd.htm"><img class="btn4" src="../oddbtn.gif" width="100" height="38" alt="ComicBtn"></a>
    <ul>
      <li class="link3"><a href="HOBodd.htm"><img src="../mbtn.gif" alt="cMainBtn"></a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
   <li><a href="HOBart.htm"><img class="btn5" src="../artbtn.gif" width="100" height="38" alt="ArtBtn"></a>
    <ul>
      <li class="link4"><a href="HOBart.htm"><img src="../mbtn.gif" alt="aMainBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link5"><a href="HOBart.htm"><img src="../recbtn.gif" alt="aRecentBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link6"><a href="HOBart.htm"><img src="../gaibtn.gif" alt="aGaiaBtn"></a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
   <li><a href="HOBpic.htm"><img class="btn6" src="../picbtn.gif" width="100" height="38" alt="PicsBtn"></a>
    <ul>
      <li class="link5"><a href="HOBpic.htm"><img src="../mbtn.gif" alt="pMainBtn"></a></li>
      <li class="link6"><a href="HOBpic.htm"><img src="../recbtn.gif" alt="pRecentBtn"></a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
   <li><a href="HOBfaq.htm"><img class="btn7" src="../faqbtn.gif" width="100" height="38" alt="FaqBtn"></a></li>
   <li><a href="HOBcon.htm"><img class="btn8" src="../contactbtn.gif" width="100" height="38" alt="ContactBtn"></a> </li>
</ul> 





<script type="text/javascript" src="drop_down.js"></script>
the "nav" is referring to a bit of js, and this is in my header. Also not sure if it's correct, but I can worry about that later.
link: The Page

I am a photographer for a website and I know very little about anything other than basic html. With the website lady gone on a trip around the world for a year, I ended up being the person to attempt to modify our side menu to show an additional column of subcategories. I tinkered around with the code we had and I managed to get this to work in Firefox, however in IE7 the contents of the menu shift down a few pixels when you hover over a category.

To view my problem, go to scannerparts.biz

I've messed around with this for a few days and everything has become a big confusing mess so I have no choice but give in and ask for help. I thank anyone in advance for any assistance you can offer.

-Emerson

Here is the code:

hover.css

Code:

<!--
body {
	behavior: url(/images/csshover2.htc);
}

div#categorynav ul {margin: 0px; padding: 0px;}
.submenu {
	position: relative;
	margin: 0px;
	padding: 2px 0px;
	width: 178px;
}

div#categorynav ul.level1 li a {
	position: relative;
	display: block;
	text-decoration: none;
	margin: 0px;
	padding:  0px;
}

div#categorynav ul.level2 li {
	position: relative; 
	display: block;
	text-decoration: none;
	margin: 0px; 
	padding: 0px;
}

div#categorynav ul.level3 li {
	position: relative; 
	display: block;
	text-decoration: none;
	margin: 0px; 
	padding: 0px;
}

div#categorynav ul.level1 ul.level2 a {
	background-color: #000000;
	color: #fff;
	width: 178px;
	font-weight:normal;
	padding: 4px 4px 4px 14px;
}

div#categorynav ul.level2 ul.level3 a {
	background-color: #000000;
	color: #fff;
	width: 178px;
	font-weight:normal;
	padding: 4px 4px 4px 14px;
}

html>body div#categorynav ul.level1 ul.level2 a {
	width: auto;
	padding: 0px; 
	margin: 0px;
}
html>body div#categorynav ul.level2 ul.level3 a {
	width: auto;
	padding: 0px; 
	margin: 0px;
}

div#categorynav>ul a {width:auto; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;} 
div#categorynav ul ul {position: absolute; display: none; width: 100px; z-index:900; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;}
div#categorynav ul ul li {padding: 0px; margin: 0px;}
div#categorynav ul.level1 li.submenu:hover ul.level2 {
	display: block;
	list-style-image: none;
	list-style-type: none;

	
}
div#categorynav ul.level2 li.submenu:hover ul.level3 {
	display: block;
	list-style-image: none;
	list-style-type: none;

	
}

div#categorynav ul.level2 {
	top: 0px;	
	left: 178px;
	margin: 0px;
	padding: 0px;
	width:160px;

} 
div#categorynav ul.level2 li a:hover {
	background-color: #000000;
	color: red;

}

div#categorynav ul.level3 {
	top: 0px;	
	left: 178px;
	margin: 0px;
	padding: 0px;
	width:160px;

} 
div#categorynav ul.level3 li a:hover {
	background-color: #000000;
	color: red;


}

Abbreviated Header Source (abbreviated for max character requirement, I think I left all the vital stuff there)
Code:

<!doctype HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

<html>
<head>

<ss:comment><link href="hover.css" type="text/css" rel="stylesheet" media="screen"/></ss:comment>
<link href="$store.images['hover.css']" type="text/css" rel="stylesheet" media="screen"/>


<style type="text/css">
<!--
/* Style Sheet */
body {
	margin-top: 10px;
	margin-right: 0px;
	margin-bottom: 30px;
	margin-left: 1px;
	background-image: url(/images/backgroundgray.jpg);
	background-repeat: repeat-x;
	background-position: center bottom;
}
html { height: 100%; margin-bottom: 1px; }
#outline{
	border :0px solid #ffffff;
	width :760px;
	}
#categories{
	background-color:#000000;
	color:#ffffff;
	text-decoration:none;
	text-align : left;
	display: block;
	padding : 5px 5px 1px 0px;
	font-weight :bold;
	font-size:9pt;
	font-family:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.face/>;
        width :178px;
	padding: 0px; 
	}
#cat1{
	background-color:#000000;
	color: #ffffff;
	text-decoration:none;
	text-align: left;
	display: block;
	font-weight :normal;
	font-size: 9pt;
	font-family:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.face/>;
        width: 178px;
	padding: 0px; 
	}
#cat1 a{
	background-color:#000000;
	color: #ffffff;
	text-decoration:none;
	text-align: left;
	display: block;
	font-weight: normal;
	font-size:9pt;
	font-family:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.face/>;
        width :178px;
	padding: 0px; 
	}
#cat1 a:hover{
	background-color:#000000;
	color:#ff0000;
	text-decoration:none;
	text-align : left;
	display: block;
	font-weight: normal;
	font-size:9pt;
	font-family:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.face/>;
        width :178px;
	padding: 0px; 
	}
.leftnav {
	background-color:#000000;
	color:#ffffff;
	text-decoration:none;
	font-weight :bold;
	font-size:9pt;
	font-family:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.face/>;
	padding : 2px 5px 1px 0px;
	}
.leftnav A:link {
	background-color:#000000;
	border-bottom : 1px solid #666666;
	color:#ffffff;
	text-decoration:none;
	text-align : left;

	display: block;
	padding : 2px 5px 1px 0px;
	font-weight :bold;
	}
.leftnav A:visited {
	background-color:#000000;
	border-bottom : 1px solid #666666;
	color:#ffffff;
	text-decoration:none;
	text-align : left;
	display: block;
	padding : 2px 5px 1px 0px;
	font-weight :bold;
	}
.leftnav A:hover {
	background-color:#000000;
	border-bottom : 1px solid #666666;
	color:#ff0000;
	text-decoration:none;
	text-align : left;
	display: block;
	padding : 2px 5px 1px 0px;
	font-weight :bold;
	}
.leftnav A:active {
	background-color:#000000;
	border-bottom : 1px solid #666666;
	color:#ffffff;
	text-decoration:none;
	text-align : left;
	display: block;
	padding : 2px 5px 1px 0px;
	font-weight :bold;
	}
A:link {text-decoration:underline;color:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.color/>;}
A:visited {text-decoration:underline;color:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.color/>;}
A:hover {text-decoration:none;color:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.color/>;}
A:active {text-decoration:underline;color:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.color/>;}

.content {font-family:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.face/>
;color:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.color/>;}

.title {font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold;font-family:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.face/>
;color:#ffffff;}

.footer {font-size:9pt;font-family:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.face/>
;color:<ss:value source=$font.paragraph.color/>;}

-->
</style>
</head>

<body>
<center>
<div id="outline">
<table width="760" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<!-- banner image -->
	<tr valign="top"><td colspan="4"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)"><ss:image source="$templateSet.images['header.jpg']" border="0"/></a></td></tr>

	<tr valign="top">
<!-- left nav -->
		<td bgcolor="#000000">&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
		<td width="175" bgcolor="#000000">
			<div class="leftnav">
		<!-- store logo -->
			</div>
		
			<div class="leftnav">
				<div style="border-bottom : 0px solid #666666;">&nbsp;</div>
			<!-- home -->
				</div>
			
			<!-- categories -->
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size="2" color="white"><b>Parts and Products:</b></font></p>
<div id="categorynav">
<div id="categories">
	<ul class="level1">                        			 
	<ss:foreach item="category" within="$catalog.categoryList()">
	<ss:sortby item="categorypriority" direction="asc"/>
	<ss:if test="$category.treeLevel == '1'">
	<ss:set name="hasSub" value="0"/>
		<ss:foreach item="subcategory" within="$category.childrenToDepth(1)">

		<ss:set name="hasSub" value="1"/>
		</ss:foreach>
                <li class="submenu">
		<div id="cat1"><ss:link source="$category"/></div>
			<ss:if test="$hasSub == '1'">
			<ul class="level2">
			<ss:foreach item="subcategory" within="$category.childrenToDepth(1)">
			<ss:sortby item="categorypriority" direction="asc"/>

			<ss:if test="$category.treeLevel == '2'">
			<ss:set name="hasSub" value="1"/>
			<ss:foreach item="subcategory" within="$category.childrenToDepth(1)">

                        		<ss:set name="hasSub" value="1"/></ss:foreach></ss:if>
</li>
                                 	<li class="submenu">
					<div id="cat1"><ss:link source="$subcategory"/></div>
						<ss:if test="$hasSub == '1'">
						<ul class="level3">
						<ss:foreach item="subcategory" within="$subcategory.childrenToDepth(1)">
						<li><ss:link source="$subcategory" title="$subcategory.name"/></li>
						</ss:foreach>
						</ul>
						</ss:if>
						</ss:foreach>
						</ul>
						</ss:if></ss:foreach>

					</li>

					</ss:if></ss:if></ss:foreach>
				<br>                      
			 </ul>
			</div> 
			</div>

Hi all,

I've got a horizontal menu that is working just fine in every browser but IE 6 and 7. In IE it's almost there, except that the submenus will only appear one level deep. The menu is created with nested lists. The :hover functionality is simulated via JavaScript for IE 6. The IE developer toolbar shows the 3rd level menu is correctly being changed to display: block when its parent is hovered, and the border the dev toolbar draws even puts it in the correct place, it just doesn't actually appear.

You can find the page he
http://www.perceptes.com/topdog/

The CSS and JS (uses jQuery) can be found he
http://www.perceptes.com/topdog/css/screen.css
http://www.perceptes.com/topdog/css/ie.css (loaded with a conditional comment)
http://www.perceptes.com/topdog/js/tdps.js
http://www.perceptes.com/topdog/js/ie.js (loaded with a conditonal comment)

For a specific example of what I'm talking about, try hovering over the second item, Filters & Parts. This will give you another level with four choices. Each of those also has child elements, but when hovered over, the next level doesn't appear. Try it in something other than IE 6 or 7 to see how it's supposed to look.

Thanks very much in advance!

I'm helping these fine folks fix a few little issues with their site but this one I can't seem to quite figure out. If you roll over the main menu you will see the sub menu slide down on the left. For the life of me I can't get it to line up under the main nav. I've tried many, many things. Can anyone provide a few hints, tips, suggestions? Thanks so much!!!

98.214.188.71/life at excel.htm

Code:

/*******************menu starts********************/  #menu{float:left; width:100%; background:#ffffff;} #menu a{font-weight:bold; line-height:16px;} #menu table{float:left; width:100%; background:transparent;}  #menu .menu01{width:147px;} #menu .menu01 a{float:left; /*width:149px;*/width:100%; height:26px; background:url(images/menu01.gif) no-repeat right 0; float:left; color:#fff; text-decoration:none; text-align:center; padding:10px 0 0 0} #menu .menu01 a.current{float:left; /*width:149px;*/width:100%; height:26px; background:url(images/menu01.gif) no-repeat right 0; cursor:pointer;}  #menu .divider{width:.5%;  height:36px; background:url(images/white_divider.gif) repeat-x 0 1px;}  #menu .menu02{} #menu .menu02 a{display:block; background:url(images/menu02.gif) repeat-x right 0; padding:10px 0 0; height:26px; color:#fff; text-decoration:none; text-align:center} #menu .menu02 a.current{float:left; width:100%; background:url(images/menu02.gif) no-repeat right bottom;  color:#fff; cursor:pointer;}  #menu .menu03{} #menu .menu03 a{display:block; background:url(images/menu03.gif) repeat-x right 0; padding:10px 0 0; text-align:center; height:26px; color:#fff; text-decoration:none;} #menu .menu03 a.current{float:left; width:100%; background:url(images/menu03.gif) no-repeat right bottom; height:26px; color:#fff; cursor:pointer;}  #menu .menu04{width:152px; } #menu .menu04 a{float:left; /*width:152px;*/width:100%; background:url(images/menu04.gif) no-repeat right 0; padding:10px 0 0; text-align:center; height:26px; color:#fff; text-decoration:none;} #menu .menu04 a.current{float:left; /*width:152px;*/width:100%; background:url(images/menu04.gif) no-repeat right bottom; height:26px; color:#fff; cursor:pointer;}  #menu .menu05{width:143px;} #menu .menu05 a{float:left; /*width:143px;*/ width:100%;background:url(images/menu05.gif) no-repeat right 0; padding:10px 0 0; text-align:center; height:26px; color:#fff; text-decoration:none;} #menu .menu05 a.current{float:left; /*width:143px;*/width:100%; background:url(images/menu05.gif) no-repeat right -43px; height:26px; color:#fff; cursor:pointer;}  .exp{ display:none; clear:both; text-align:center; background:#BA8747; z-index:4; }  #menu DIV.sub-mlinks A  { color:#000; background:none; font-weight:bold; padding-top:2px; padding-bottom:0px; display:block; height:auto; }  #menu DIV.sub-mlinks A:hover{ color:#FFF; }  /*******************menu ends********************/     <div id="menu">      <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="970"><tbody><tr>  	 	<td style="width: 19.6%;" id="item1" class="menu01"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/">Home</a></td>   	 <td class="divider">&nbsp;</td> 	 	<td style="width: 19.6%;" id="item2" class="menu02" onmouseover="expand(this.id, 'menu2');" onmouseout="collapse(this.id, 'menu2');" onmouseleave="collapseIE(this.id, 'menu2');"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/">Excel Tools</a><div id="menu2" class="exp" onmouseout="collapse('item2', this.id);" onmouseleave="collapseIE('item2', this.id);"><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/improvement" target="_new" class="menuitem">Continual Improvement</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/service" target="_new" class="menuitem">Crusher Service (FLSP)</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/xlu" class="menuitem">Excel University</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/crm/data" target="_new" class="menuitem">Excelerator CRM</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://ezlmwc.adp.com/" target="_new" class="menuitem">EZLabor</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/First%20Article/First%20Article%20Parts.xls" class="menuitem">First Article Parts</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="https://login.postini.com/exec/login" class="menuitem">FLS Spam Filter Login</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/ecr/" target="_new" class="menuitem">FLSP ECR</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=excel-tools/forms" class="menuitem">Forms Library</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=excel-tools/iso9001" class="menuitem">ISO 9001 Procedures</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/helpdesk" target="_new" class="menuitem">IT Help Desk</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=excel-tools/machine-info" class="menuitem">Machine Info</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/Manu_Memos/Memos.html" target="_new" class="menuitem">Manufacturing Memos</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=excel-tools/metrics" class="menuitem">Metrics</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/msq" target="_new" class="menuitem">MSQ Editor</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=excel-tools/manuals" class="menuitem">Parts Manuals</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/parts" target="_new" class="menuitem">Parts Search</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/po" target="_new" class="menuitem">PO Tool</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=excel-tools/flows" class="menuitem">Process Flows</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/revSupport" target="_new" class="menuitem">Revision Support</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=excel-tools/routing" class="menuitem">Routing Guide</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=excel-tools/safety" class="menuitem">Safety & Training</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/docs/QRM%20Schedule.xlsx" class="menuitem">QRM Schedule</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/training" class="menuitem">Training Request System</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://my.concureworkplace.com/default.asp?companyid=excet5jvd2telbgk" target="_new" class="menuitem">Travel Expense (EFM)</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://my.concureworkplace.com/default.asp?companyid=smid5gr1t0br0czj" target="_new" class="menuitem">Travel Expense (FLSP)</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/xcalibur" target="_new" class="menuitem">Xcalibur</a></div></div></td>   	 <td class="divider">&nbsp;</td>  	 	<td style="width: 19.6%; color: black;" id="item3" class="menu03" onmouseover="expand(this.id, 'menu3');" onmouseout="collapse(this.id, 'menu3');" onmouseleave="collapseIE(this.id, 'menu3');"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/">Our People</a><div style="top: 168px; left: 376px; width: 183px; position: static; visibility: hidden; display: none;" id="menu3" class="exp" onmouseout="collapse('item3', this.id);" onmouseleave="collapseIE('item3', this.id);"><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="https://login.fidelity.com/ftgw/pages/fesco/html/NBParticipantLogout.html" target="_new" class="menuitem">401k Login</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-people/classifieds" class="menuitem">Classifieds</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-people/hr/directory" class="menuitem">Employee Directory</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-people/eu" class="menuitem">Excel University</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-people/insite" class="menuitem">FLSmidth Insite</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.com/about-excel/company-history" class="menuitem">History of Excel</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-people/hr" class="menuitem">Human Resources</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-people/dates" class="menuitem">Important Dates</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-people/jobs" class="menuitem">Job Openings</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-people/mlb" class="menuitem">MLB Standings</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-people/phone" class="menuitem">Phone Directory</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=node/380" class="menuitem">Quality and Mission Statement</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/docs/EFM%20HR%20XLU%20Servant%20Leadership%20Academy.pdf" class="menuitem">Servant Leadership Academy Info</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/training" target="_new" class="menuitem">Training Request System</a></div></div></td>   	 <td class="divider">&nbsp;</td>  	 	<td style="width: 19.6%;" id="item4" class="menu04" onmouseover="expand(this.id, 'menu4');" onmouseout="collapse(this.id, 'menu4');" onmouseleave="collapseIE(this.id, 'menu4');"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/">Departments</a><div id="menu4" class="exp" onmouseout="collapse('item4', this.id);" onmouseleave="collapseIE('item4', this.id);"><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/accounting" class="menuitem">Accounting & Administration</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/support" class="menuitem">Customer Support</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/engineering" class="menuitem">Design Engineering</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/foundry" class="menuitem">Foundry</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/hr" class="menuitem">Human Resources</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/it" class="menuitem">IT</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/machine" class="menuitem">Machine Shops</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/maintenance" class="menuitem">Maintenance</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/mktg_wo" class="menuitem">Marketing</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/materials" class="menuitem">Materials</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=node/193" class="menuitem">Manufacturing Engineering</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=node/192" class="menuitem">Production Control</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/quality" class="menuitem">Quality Engineering</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=node/187" class="menuitem">Sales</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/toolcrib" class="menuitem">Tool Crib</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=departments/warehouse" class="menuitem">Warehouse</a></div></div></td>   	 <td class="divider">&nbsp;</td>  	 	<td style="width: 19.6%; color: black;" id="item5" class="menu05" onmouseover="expand(this.id, 'menu5');" onmouseout="collapse(this.id, 'menu5');" onmouseleave="collapseIE(this.id, 'menu5');"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/">Our Customers</a><div style="top: 168px; left: 752px; width: 183px; position: static; visibility: hidden; display: none;" id="menu5" class="exp" onmouseout="collapse('item5', this.id);" onmouseleave="collapseIE('item5', this.id);"><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-customers/highlights" class="menuitem">Customer Highlights</a></div><div class="sub-mlinks"><a href="http://www.excelfoundry.net/lifeatexcel/?q=our-customers/equipment" class="menuitem">Equipment Profiles</a></div></div></td>   	  	      </tr></tbody></table>  	   </div>

Ok, I know virtually nothing about css, but realized that that a css menu is better for SEO. Anyway I found this vertical menu that works the way I want it. But I also need a horizontal version of it with dropdown submenus. Can someone help with this? I have been trying a bunch of things but it just looks awful and doesn't work right. It has 3 basic componets; Html, Javascript, and css.

Here they are below.

drop_down.js:
Code:

// JavaScript Document

startList = function() {
if (document.all&&document.getElementById) {
navRoot = document.getElementById("nav");
for (i=0; i<navRoot.childNodes.length; i++) {
node = navRoot.childNodes[i];
if (node.nodeName=="LI") {
node.onmouseover=function() {
this.className+=" over";
  }
  node.onmouseout=function() {
  this.className=this.className.replace(" over", "");
   }
   }
  }
 }
}
window.onload=startList; 

HTML:
Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Horizontal Drop Down Menus</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<script type="text/javascript" src="drop_down.js"></script>
<style type="text/css">
@import "style2.css";
</style>
</head>
<body> 
<ul id="nav"> 
  <li><a href="#">Home</a></li> 
  <li><a href="#">About</a> 
    <ul> 
      <li><a href="#">History</a></li> 
      <li><a href="#">Team</a></li> 
      <li><a href="#">Offices</a></li> 
    </ul> 
  </li> 
  <li><a href="#">Services</a> 
    <ul> 
      <li><a href="#">Web Design</a></li> 
      <li><a href="#">Internet Marketing</a></li> 
      <li><a href="#">Hosting</a></li> 
      <li><a href="#">Domain Names</a></li> 
      <li><a href="#">Broadband</a></li> 
    </ul> 
  </li> 
  <li><a href="#">Contact Us</a> 
    <ul> 
      <li><a href="#">United Kingdom</a></li> 
      <li><a href="#">France</a></li> 
      <li><a href="#">USA</a></li> 
      <li><a href="#">Australia</a></li> 
    </ul> 
  </li> 
</ul> 
</body>
</html> 

Style2.CSS:
Code:

body {
	font: normal 11px verdana;
	}

ul {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
	list-style: none;
	width: 150px; /* Width of Menu Items */
	border-bottom: 1px solid #ccc;
	}

ul li {
	position: relative;
	}
	
li ul {
	position: absolute;
	left: 149px; /* Set 1px less than menu width */
	top: 0;
	display: none;
	}

/* Styles for Menu Items */
ul li a {
	display: block;
	text-decoration: none;
	color: #777;
	background: #fff; /* IE6 Bug */
	padding: 5px;
	border: 1px solid #ccc;
	border-bottom: 0;
	}

/* Fix IE. Hide from IE Mac \*/
* html ul li { float: left; height: 1%; }
* html ul li a { height: 1%; }
/* End */

ul li a:hover { color: #E2144A; background: #f9f9f9; } /* Hover Styles */
		
li ul li a { padding: 2px 5px; } /* Sub Menu Styles */
		
li:hover ul, li.over ul { display: block; } /* The magic */ 

I working on a CSS to display a round-shouldered-tab menu. My result is acceptable:
http://rickduley.webs.com/roundShoulderTabMenu.jpg
except for the fact that the tabs are set below the menuBar on which the are supposed to display.

I have run out of ideas. Would someone please set me on the right path?
Thanks.

P.S.: the code is at
http://rickduley.webs.com/roundShoulderTabMenu.zip.kgb -
you have to delete the 'dot key gee bee' suffix.