CSS - Suckerfish Menu Modification

Hi
I hope this is going to be a simple question!!
I have used the suckerfish menu and all I would like to do is have the menu in the center of the page with a blue border extending from the sides of the menu to the edge of the page.

The page can be viewed on http://uk.geocities.com/g_foxon/example1.htm

cheers
Wistar

Dear clever CSSers

I am currently changing my flyout menu from something rather complex, to the Suckerfish version.

I have one problem: I have been using some mouseover tooltip-like information boxes giving extra details of the contents of a link, by having a div within the text of the hyperlink, to come visible when hovered. It has worked very well in my old version. Here's my test page

In the new version, there are two lines of CSS allowing the popup to open, which is also enclosed in a balloon-style info graphic, actually in two halves so that it can open like a clamshell if there is extra text in there, or a user has a larger than normal font setting:

Code:

#nav a span {visibility:hidden;position:absolute;top:-120px;left:175px;background: url(http://www.internetevangelismday.com/images/balloontop.png) no-repeat transparent top left;width:196px;height:105px;line-height:1.2em;text-align:left;word-wrap:break-word;text-wrap:normal;white-space:normal;padding:0px;} #nav a:hover span {visibility:visible;z-index:9999;min-height:130px;} 

This CSS does allow the popup to appear, but unfortunately it positions each popup at the same position on the page. I would prefer it that they appeared with the 'point' of the balloon pointing at the relavent link. You can see that if you hover '2nd level here', and then 'page 1', or 'page 2' or 'another page', the info balloon appears in exactly the same place on the page.

Changing the positioning from position absolute to position relative causes the popup to appear in about the correct position, but it also expands the link area on the menu itself to a huge blank area and misses off the balloontop.png graphic from the popup, which I presume is staying inserted, hidden, within the menu item and causing it to expand.

Thanks for any ideas on this. BTW, the javascript is a neat one that repositions submenus where necessary so they can't vanish below the bottom of the page.

Best wishes

Tony

Hi there,

I'm playing around with a menu that is based on the 'suckerfish' method and basically, I am trying to change the background colour of one of the menu options.


The problem is, I can't seem to do this in isolation - i.e. without messing up the other items in the menu. I've tried applying a background image to the <li> item, with no joy and I've also tried creating a separate div layer for this one option - again with no joy.


**EDIT** Just worked out how to do this.... All I did was add [CODE]id="selected"

So I'm a student working on my first real project. I've done Suckerfish drop-downs before, but I'm having trouble doing them with graphic text instead of system text. The image replacement works fine on the first level, but the nested li's just repeat the image of the main li.

For example, the main nav item with the drop-down is "Our Coffee". In the drop-down menu instead of having the different images for the corresponding links, "Our Coffee" is repeated.

Here's a selection of my code where I think the problem is happening:

Code:

<div id="nav">
   	<ul id="dd">
       	<li id="hm"><a href="menu.html">Menu</a></li>
        <li id="au"><a href="about_us.html">About Us</a></li>
        <li id="oc"><a href="#">Our Coffee</a>
        	<ul>
            	<li id="oc_dd_ko"><a href="oc_kona.html">Kona</a></li>
            	<li id="oc_dd_ma"><a href="oc_maui.html">Maui</a></li>
            	<li id="oc_dd_ka"><a href="oc_kauai.html">Kauai</a></li>
            </ul>
        </li>
        <li id="os"><a href="os_hy.html">Our Stores</a></li>
        <li id="ols"><a href="online_store.html">Online Store</a></li>
        <li id="oct"><a href="our_culture.html">Our Culture</a></li>
    </ul>
</div>  

Code:

#nav ul li ul li a {
	display: block;
	height: 0px;
	overflow: hidden;
}

#dd li#oc a {
	display: block;
	width: 95px;
}

#dd li#oc {
	float: left;
	width: 95px;
}

#dd li#oc ul {
	position: absolute;
	width: 95px;
	left: -9999px;
}

#dd li#oc:hover ul {
	left: auto;
}


#dd li#oc:hover ul, #dd li.sfhover ul {
	left: auto;
}

li#oc ul li a {
	height: 0px;
	display: block;
	overflow: hidden;
}

#oc_dd_ko a {
	background: url(../images/oc_ddnav-01_lo.gif) no-repeat;
	padding-top: 13px;
	width: 58px;
}

#oc_dd_ko a:hover {
	background: url(../images/oc_ddnav-01_hi.gif) no-repeat;
	padding-top: 13px;
	width: 58px;
}

#oc_dd_ma a {
	background: url(../images/oc_ddnav-02_lo.gif) no-repeat;
	padding-top: 15px;
	width: 58px;
}

#oc_dd_ma a:hover {
	background: url(../images/oc_ddnav-02_hi.gif) no-repeat;
	padding-top: 15px;
	width: 58px;
}

#oc_dd_ka a {
	background: url(../images/oc_ddnav-03_lo.gif) no-repeat;
	padding-top: 16px;
	width: 58px;
}

#oc_dd_ka a:hover {
	background: url(../images/oc_ddnav-03_hi.gif) no-repeat;
	padding-top: 16px;
	width: 58px;
}

#dd, #dd ul {
	padding: 0;
	margin: 0;
	list-style: none;
}

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

hey guys,

im not the greatest with css and html but i do it for fun to try and teach myself.

Anyways I have a css drop menu set up on my site and I am having a problem with the width sizes in the actual drop down.

The text length is of various sizes in the drop down. (some are long single words, some are 2 words etc)

and I am using a width size of 11em which in all browsers using a standard screen res shows up fine. but if somebody uses a smaller screen res the text starts wrapping. Where you get the 2 word lines split into 2 lines. and then If i increase the size sometimes I get separate <li>'s on the same line. Its pretty frustrating.

What I want to do is be able to increase the width size of the drop menu and even have all kinds of extra padding on the right if I want but without <li>'s spilling onto the next line or without <li>'s sitting on the same line cause its too big.

Here is my CSS for the drop.

Code:

#nav li ul {
	background: #FCDFFF;
	background-image: url('images/background.png');
	border-style: ridge;
	border-width: 5px;
	border-color: #000000;
        margin-top: 0px;
	position: absolute;
	font-size: 95%;
	width: 11em;
	left: -999em;
	line-height: 2;
	z-index: 999;
}

anybody know how I can do what Im looking for?

Thanks in advance!

Good Evening,

Am very glad to find this board. Am working on my first paid Joomla site - and the Suckerfish menu's do not seem to center, and I cannot find any directions on how to go about making them so.

Also, many sites I've visited will scale to the size of the window open (until too small) - am using the JNS Epic Pro Template and was wondering if there was any CSS feature to program the whole site to scale as best possible.

Hope this makes sense. Am not new to computers, but rather a newbie to Joomla and CSS (although I do know a little).

If any further info is required, please just advise.

Thanking you in advance ... going live on 7/1 ...

Hi

I am using suckerfish drop down menu without problem on my local server, however, on the remote server them menu won't work when jscript is turned off (when viewed on IE). Do you have any idea why this might be? has anyone had this problem before? (here is the url: (URL address blocked: See forum rules))

thanks a lot

Hi,

Can anyone help me. I am using a son of suckerfish dropdown menu on a joomla 1.5 site I am working on.

laminatefabricators.com

The menu is dropping down fine on all of my browsers (apple mac: safari, camino, firefox). & are fine on firefox for pc. The menus aren't displaying at all on Internet explorer.

Please help... I have wasted so much time trying to fix it/find a fix.

I have been trying to get Son of Suckerfish dropdown menus to work in IE for me for the longest time... I just can't get it to align how I want it to when I add my own "tab" effect.

Code:

	<ul id="nav">

		<li id="main1" class="mainMenu"><a href="./index.php">Home</a></li>
		
		<li id="main2" class="mainMenu"><a href="./about.php">About Us</a></li>

		<li id="main3" class="mainMenu"><a href="./calendar.php">Calendar</a></li>

		<li id="main4" class="mainMenu"><a href="./college.php">College&nbsp;Students</a>
			<ul>
				<li><a href="./studentNews.php">News</a></li>
				<li><a href="./studentLeaders.php">Student Leaders</a></li>
				<li><a href="./sundaySupper.php">Sunday Supper</a></li>
				<li><a href="./serventEvents.php">Servant Events</a></li>
				<li><a href="./gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=40">Fall Retreat</a></li>
			</ul>
		</li>
		
		<li id="main5" class="mainMenu"><a href="./family.php">Family&nbsp;Ministry</a>
			<ul>
				<li><a href="./family.php">Overview</a></li>
				<li><a href="./fmSchedule.php">Schedule</a></li>
				<li><a href="./fmActivities.php">Activities</a></li>
				<li><a href="./gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=53">Photos</a></li>
				<li><a href="./fmYouCanHelp.php">You Can Help</a></li>
				<li><a href="./fmCoordination.php">Education Coordination Team</a></li>
			</ul>
		</li>
		
		<li id="main6" class="mainMenu"><a href="./serving.php">Ways&nbsp;to&nbsp;Serve</a></li>
		
		<li id="main7" class="mainMenu"><a href="./giving.php">Ways&nbsp;to&nbsp;Give</a>
			<ul>
				<li><a href="./giving.php">Financial Home</a></li>
				<li><a href="https://www.eservicepayments.com/cgi-bin/specialwebapp.vps?appid=40a27221f816144b21e9f2e0d81891b8a68820b814b79fc6caf83c6a4fcf06b22f288aa4a34f  a442a76b20a4eb1041b012267f0823e0ef99aeca1bf9c914f523">Make A Gift Online</a></li>
				<li><a href="./eft.php">Electronic Fund Transfer</a></li>
				<li><a href="./matching.php">Matching Gifts</a></li>
				<li><a href="./meijer.php">Meijer Community Rewards</a></li>
				<li><a href="./givingTools.php">Tools for Giving</a></li>
				<li><a href="./endowment.php">Endowment Fund</a></li>
			</ul>
		</li>
		
		<li id="main8" class="mainMenu"><a href="./contact.php">Contact Us</a></li>
		


	</ul>

That's the HTML

Code:

#nav {
	float: left;
	list-style: none;
	line-height: 1;
	font-size: 16px;
	padding: 0;
	margin: 0 0 0.5em 0.6em;
}

#nav ul {
	list-style: none;
	background: #006600;
	padding: 0;
	border: 1px solid #000;
}

#nav li.sfhover ul {
	left: 1em;
}

#nav a {
	display: block;
	color: white;
	text-decoration: none;
	padding: 0.25em;
	padding-right:0;
}

#nav ul a {
	display: block;
	width: 6em;
	color: white;
	text-decoration: none;
	background:none;
	border:none;
}

#nav li {
	float: left;
	padding: 0;
	width: 7em;
	height:auto;
}

#nav li ul {
	position: absolute;
	left: -999em;
	height: auto;
	width: 13.9em;
	font-weight: normal;
	border: 1px solid #000;
}

#nav li li {
	padding-right: 1em;
	width: 13em;
}

#nav li ul a {
	width: 12em;

}

#nav li:hover ul ul, #nav li:hover ul ul ul, #nav li.sfhover ul ul, #nav li.sfhover ul ul ul {
	left: -999em;
}

#nav li:hover ul, #nav li li:hover ul, #nav li li li:hover ul, #nav li.sfhover ul, #nav li li.sfhover ul, #nav li li li.sfhover ul {
	left: auto;
}

#nav ul li:hover,  #nav li:hover, #nav ul li.sfhover, #nav li.sfhover {
	background: #009900;
}

/*  Width of the tabs */
#nav #main1 {
	width:3.4em;
}

#nav #main2 {
	width:4.6em;
}

#nav #main3 {
	width: 4.5em;
}

#nav #main4 {
	width:7.85em;
}

#nav #main5 {
	width:7em;
}

#nav #main6 {
	width:6.8em;
}

#nav #main7 {
	width:6.3em;
}

#nav #main8 {
	width:5.5em;
}

#nav li {
	margin-right: 3px;
	border: 1px solid #000;
	background: #006600;
	color: white;
	text-decoration:none;
}

#nav li ul li {
	border:none;
	background: #006600;
	color: white;
	text-decoration:none;
}

#nav li ul {
	border: 1px solid black;
}

#nav li:hover, #nav li.sfhover {
    position: static;
}

And that's the CSS


Just in case this will help, here's a link to a test page (just throw together so There is no content other than the menu)
http://www.martinlutherchapel.org/test.html

If you are having problems with Son of Suckerfish and IE7, where the drop down menu will not disappear like it should. Take out the javascript because you do not need it with IE7, but if you still want IE6 to work then put it in.

For IE7, you need to add


Code:

*:first-child+html #nav {
height: 1%;
}
*:first-child+html #nav li {
height: 1%;
} 

to your css and you will be fine. Don't ask me why, Don't ask how, i just chalk it up to just IE

I built a custom Suckerfish CSS dropdown nav, with a portion of the code for which is below:

Code:

#nav {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: bold;
color: #67670f;
text-align: left;
}

ul {
padding: 0;
margin: 0;
list-style: none;
}

li.navsep {
float: left;
width: 2px;
}

li.home {
float: left;
position: relative;
width: 61px;
}

li.home img {
border: 0;
}

li.ourproducts {
float: left;
position: relative;
width: 132px;
z-index: 500;
}

li.ourproducts img {
border: 0;
}

li.ourproducts ul {
display: none;
position: absolute;
top: 0;
left: 0;
width: 132px;
background-color: #fff;
}

li.ourproducts ul a, li.ourproducts ul a:visited {
display: block;
padding: 3px 0 3px 3px;
margin: 0;
color: #67670f;
text-decoration: none;
width: 129px;
}

li.ourproducts ul a:hover {
display: block;
background-color: #e4e2db;
color: #67670f;
text-decoration: none;
}

The focus is on the li.ourproducts a, li.ourproducts a:visited declaration.

In IE6, the background on :hover is 3 pixels shy of covering the whole list item. I know this must have something to do with the padding. FF however, renders it fine.

I figured that IE6 would handle the box model fine. When I make the width 132px however for li.ourproducts a, li.ourproducts a:visited, in IE6 it's fine and in FF it's 3 pixels farther than it should be (135px).

Can anyone hint at what the problem might be? I can't seem to get the declaration so both see it fine.

-B

I'm working on my first suckerfish dropdown for a site. I'm encountering two problems.

1) There is no background color on the subitems when i select the main item, making them hard to read

2) Internet Explorer displays the dropdown to the right of the main list item, rather than below. Netscape displays it correctly. Is this due to something I altered?

Code:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>Markey Home Remodeling</title>
<link href="main.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">

<style title="text/css">
#container {
	width: 562px;
	background: #F4ECD9;
	text-align: left;
	
	margin: 0 auto;
}



#nav, #nav ul {
	float: left;
	width: 562px;
	list-style: none;
	line-height: 1;
	background: EAE3A3;
	font-weight: bold;
	padding: 0;

	margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}

#nav a {
	display: inline;
	width: 10em;
	w\idth: 6em;
	color: #7C6240;
	text-decoration: none;
	padding: 0.25em 2em;
}

#nav a.daddy {
	background: url(rightarrow2.gif) center right no-repeat;
}

#nav li {
	float: right;
	padding: 0;
	width: 10em;
	
}

#nav li ul {
	position: absolute;
	left: -999em;
	height: auto;
	width: 14.4em;
	w\idth: 13.9em;
	font-weight: normal;
	border-width: 0.25em;
	margin: 0;
	
	}

#nav li li {
	padding-right: 1em;
	width: 13em
	
}

#nav li ul a {
	width: 13em;
	w\idth: 9em;
}

#nav li ul ul {
	margin: -1.75em 0 0 14em;
	}

#nav li:hover ul ul, #nav li:hover ul ul ul, #nav li.sfhover ul ul, #nav li.sfhover ul ul ul {
	left: -999em;
	
}

#nav li:hover ul, #nav li li:hover ul, #nav li li li:hover ul, #nav li.sfhover ul, #nav li li.sfhover ul, #nav li li li.sfhover ul {
	left: auto;
}

#nav li:hover, #nav li.sfhover {
	background: white;
}


</style>


<script type="text/javascript">

sfHover = function() 
{     
var sfEls = document.getElementById("nav").getElementsByTagName("LI");     
for (var i=0; i<sfEls.length; i++) {         sfEls[i].onmouseover=function() 
{             
this.className+=" sfhover";         
}         
sfEls[i].onmouseout=function() 
{             
this.className=this.className.replace(new RegExp(" sfhover\\b"), "");         
}     
} 
} 
if (window.attachEvent) window.attachEvent("onload", sfHover); 

</script>


</head>

<body>

<table width="800" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" class="tableborder" align="center">
  <tr>
    <td colspan="2">&nbsp;</td>
  </tr>
  
  <tr>
    <td height="20" width="562" class="leftnav">

<div id="container">

<ul id="nav">    
 
  <li><a href="#">SIDING</a></li>  
 
 <li><a href="#">GUTTERS</a></li> 
 
 
  <li><a href="#">BASEMENTS</a></li>  

<li><a href="#">WINDOWS</a>         
  <ul>
  <li><a href="#">300 Series</a></li>  
  <li><a href="#">900 Series</a></li> 
  <li><a href="#">Sliding</a></li>
  <li><a href="#">Bay and Bow</a></li>
 </ul>     
 </li>     

  
<li><a href="#">DOORS</a>         
  <ul>
  <li><a href="#">Entry</a></li>  
  <li><a href="#">Patio</a></li> 
  <li><a href="#">Garage</a></li> 
  </ul>     
</li>         
  
</ul>

</div></td>
  
    <td class="rightnav">
	
	<div id=linkstyles>   &nbsp;   <a href="#">HOME</a>   &nbsp;   <a href="#">CONTACT US</a>
	</div></td></tr>
  
  <tr>
    <td>
	
	<table width="562" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
  <tr>
    <td><img src="images/mainimage.jpg"></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><div align="center"><img src="images/whychoose.jpg"></div></td>
  </tr>
  <tr><td>
  
  <table width="98%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="center" class="maincontenttable">
  <tr>
    <td width="50%">REPUTATION: A proven track record with thousands of 
delighted customers.
<br><br>
QUALITY: The highest quality products, the best trained 
window installers
*all A.W.D.I. (American Window and Door Installed) Certified.
<br><br>
PRICE: The lowest prices on the highest quality 
brand-name products. Period.
<br><br>
Factory Authorized Distribution, Factory Trained 
Employees.
<br><br>
Qualified, Courteous Salespeople treat you with 
professionalism and respect.
</td>
    <td width="355">&nbsp;</td>
  </tr>
</table>

  
  </td></tr>
</table>

	
	</td>
	<td valign="top" width="100%"  class="mainrighttable">
	<table width="230" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left">
  <tr>
    <td><img src="images/pledge.jpg" hspace="5" vspace="5"></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>
	
	<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="right" class="rightcontenttable">
  <tr>
    <td>Our business has always been family owned 
and operated.  For more than 27 years, we 
have served our community with pride and 
integrity. Years ago, the best craftsmen always 
put their names on their work.
<br><br>
We still do.</td>
  </tr>
</table>
</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
  </tr>
</table>

	
	<span class="style1"></span></td>
  </tr>
  
</table>

</body>
</html>

Thanks for your help

Hi,

Sorry to bother you all but I seem to have run into an awkward problem and I would be extremely greatful if anyone could help me.

www.duncansweetland.com/development/menu_problem/menu_problem.html

I am attempting to code up a design generated by an individual and he is very specific that no sizes are to be changed in his precious design.

The navigation uses son of suckerfish menu (3 levels) with the second and third levels launching to the right of the previous column - somewhat strangely! The nav elements consisting of font-size: 11px and a line-height: 12px and a 1px gap between each element - which as you can imagine is quite small (too small in my opinion but he won't change it!)

And while firefox has no problems navigating back through the nested lists, internet explorer is going insane - with sub-menu's dissappearing as you scroll down through them or as you try to launch them, making the whole thing completely un-navigable.

I produced a bigger version : font-size: 12px and a line-height: 20px and a 1px gap between each element - which was stable in both I.E and Firefox as a soloution - but he was insistant that these sizes are way too big and that the sizes should remain as he set them.

If anyone could provide me with a soloution / tell me where I am going wrong or suggest any alternative methods that would facilitate the same conclusion I would be truly delighted to hear from you - please get in touch even if it is just to tell me it's unfixable and a new soloution needs to be found.

Thanks in advance,

Duncan Sweetland

I am trying to get my suckerfish dropdown menu to be centered on the page regardless of the resolution of the monitor. I know this is possible, but I just can't wrap my head around it. This is what I have so far:
Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" >
	
	<head>
	
		<title><?php echo $title_page; ?></title>
		
		<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="application/xhtml+xml; charset=iso-8859-1" />
		
		<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="site_files/style/web.css" />
		
		<link rel="Shortcut Icon" href="site_files/pictures/favicon.ico" />
		
		<script type="text/javascript" src="site_files/ie_drop.js"></script>
		
	</head>
	
	<body>
		
		<div id="header">
			<p>NAVPACMETOCCEN San Diego Operational Home Page</p>
		</div>
		
		<div id="info">
			<p>This page will be down at 1100 GMT on 20 June 2005.  Click <a href="site_files/php/status.html">here</a> for more information.</p>
		</div>
		
		
		<div id="menu">
			<ul id="nav">
		
				<li><a href="index.php">Home Page</a></li>
				
				<li>Support
					<ul>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Ship Specific</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Unit Specific</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Detachment</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Mobile Env. Team</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Coast Guard</a></li>
					</ul>
				</li>

				<li>Satellite
					<ul>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Infrared</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Visual</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Water Vapor</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Lightning</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Analysis</a></li>
					</ul>
				</li>
				
				<li>Products
					<ul>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Warnings</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Forecasts</a></li>
					</ul>
				</li>
				
				<li>Aviation 
					<ul>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Products</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Contact Info.</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">OBS/TAFS</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Aviation Links</a></li>
					</ul>
				</li>

				<li><a href="site_files/php/links.html">Links</a></li>

			</ul>
		</div>
		
				<div id="leftside">
		
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="http://www.navy.com">Navy Jobs</a></p>
			
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="http://www.donhr.navy.mil/NoFearAct.asp">No Fear Act</a></p>
			
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="http://www.navy.mil">U.S. Navy Website</a></p>
			
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="html/privacy.html">Privacy Policy</a></p>
			
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="site_files/disclaimer.html">DoD Disclaimer</a></p>
			
		</div>

	</body>
	
</html>

And here is the style sheet:

Code:

/* This part tells us how the hyperlinks will be handled by the browsers, and also what the background will be */


a:link { /* This is the link standard color*/
	color: #000000; /*black*/
	}
a:visited { /* This is the color of an already visited link*/
	color: #800080;/*purple*/
	}

a:hover {/* This is the color your link will take when you move your mouse over it*/
	color: #FF0000;/*red*/
	text-decoration: none;
	}
	
a:active {/* This is the color and effect when you physically click on the link*/
	color: #008080;  /*teal*/
	}

a { /*This tells the browser not to underline any links */
	text-decoration: none;  
	}


/* This begins the header and the information notice portion */

#header {
	margin: -14px -8px 0px -8px;
	padding: 10px;
	height: auto;
	background: #000060;
	}

#header p {
	margin: 0;
	height: auto;
	color: #FFFF1B;
	text-align: center;
	font: small-caps 24px verdana, san-serif, serif;
	}

#info {
	margin: -1px -8px 0px -8px;
	padding: 1px;
	height: auto;
	}

#info p {
	margin: 0;
	height: auto;
	color: #0000FF;
	background: #FFFFFF;
	text-align: center;
	font: bold 12px arial, san-serif, serif;
	}

/* This ends the header and the information notice portion */





/* This begins the Drop-down menu portion*/

#menu { /* Top-Right-Bottom-Left */
	margin: 0 0 0 145px;
	padding: 0;
	width: auto;
	font: small-caps bold 12px verdana, san-serif, serif;
	}

ul { /* all lists */
	padding: 0;
	margin: 0;
	list-style: none;
	}

li { /* all list items */
	float: left;
	position: relative;
	width: 125px;
	}

li ul { /* second-level lists */
	display: none;
	position: absolute;
	top: 14px;
	left: 0;
	}

li>ul { /* to override top and left in browsers other than IE, which will position to the top right of the containing li, rather than bottom left */
	top: auto;
	left: auto;
	}

li:hover ul, li.over ul { /* lists nested under hovered list items */
	display: block;
	}
	
/* This ends the drop-down menu portion */	




/* This begins the left-side menu portion */
	
#leftside {
	margin: 100px 0px 0px -8px;
	width: 115px;
	color: #000000;
	font: small-caps 12px arial, san-serif, serif;
	}
	
.leftmenu {
	margin: 5px 0 2px 0;
	height: 15px;
	background: #DDEEFF;	
	}
	
#pkinotice {
	margin: 0px 50px 0px 125px;
	font: bold 12px arial, san-serif, serif;
	}
	
.pki {
	border: 2px solid #FF0000;

As you can see, I've just moved it over manually 145 px, and that centers it pretty well if you are viewing it at 1024x768, but at higher resolutions, the 145px is not sufficient for the centering.

If anyone has an idea on how to fix it, I'd appreciate help. The solution must be able to validate, and work in both IE and a compliant browser (mozilla or firefox is what I use). Also, if the style sheet code can be cleaned up, or you see mistakes, don't hesitate to tell me. I've been learning CSS2.1 for about 3 months now, but I am not a whiz at it... I appreciate the help.



Many thanks...

Bryan