CSS - Conditionals Broked In Ie6 And Older

I run http://www.licklinux.com and the site has been designed to fit most browsers. Such as Gecko (e.g. Firefox), IE, Opera, even Lynx e.t.c.

Though in older versions of IE, the sidebar has an awfully ugly blank right-margin. I can't seem to fix this problem, and by viewing my stats 17% use these non-compatible browsers. Can someone please help me? I usually figure CSS problems out myself, but now I'm totally lost...

Hi,

I'm working on a full CSS-based layout:
http://www3.telus.net/mguzman/testnewsite/

I just have a few questions though.

Obviously, NN4, being the .... browser that it is won't really display CSS correctly at all - I've stuck in a DIV that is hidden using CSS that basically tells the user to upgrade to Mozilla or Opera. Is this considered good practice and professional?

How else can one deal with standards-incompliant browsers like NN or IE?

Please keep in mind that this layout may be used as a design for a business.

Also, in IE 5.0 (5.5 seems okay) and IE 4.x, the page displays *mostly* correctly, except that the DIV with the content is shifted down till after the floated left menu. Any suggestions on how this can be solved while still maintaining compatibility with other platforms?

In NN 6, it appears that the background (and/or background-image) CSS properties aren't supported. Generally, how is this issue dealt with?

Thanks so much! ^^

I'm working on a site and am getting some margin errors in the header. It all is aligned in Chrome, FF, IE8, Safari on Windows, etc... but IE7 or earlier and Safari on mac is not aligning the margins properly.



the part that is messed up is what is labeled as desc2 in the header section.

It won't left (or even right) align. In the problem browsers, it sends the text off to the center of the header. it would make much more sense if I could show you, but apparently I'm not allowed to post links.

anyone have any suggestions?

Here is the code section i'm working with:

<code>/***** Header ********************/

#header {
margin: 0 auto 0;
padding: 0;
height: 42px;
}

#desc2 {
color: #000000;
font-size: 18px;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: bold;
float: right;
margin: 0 290px 10px 0;
}

#header .wrap {
width: 840px;
height: 10px;
margin: 0 auto 0;
}
</code>

I just finished modifying an open CSS/XHTML webpage and it displays perfectly on IE7.

When the page is viewed on other IE versions, it is completely jumbled (i.e. footer at top of page, hover boxes on navigation bar take up whole screen, borders exceed defined 1000px, etc.)

I am a novice at CSS and am having difficulty fixing these issues. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'v attached screen shots of the correct and incorrect layouts.

I have 2 css formatting files: setup and text

Here's SETUP.CSS:

/* NON-HEADER */
*{padding:0; margin:0;}
body {font-size:62.5%; background:rgb(250,250,250) url(../img/bg_sides.gif); font-family:Verdana,arial,sans-serif; margin-bottom:40px} /*Font-size: 1.0em = 10px when browser default size is 16px*/
.page-container {width:1000px; margin:0px auto; margin-bottom:25px; font-size:1.0em;}
.page-footer {width:1000px; margin:0px auto; margin-top:20px; margin-bottom:10px; font-size:1.0em; text-align:center;}
.main {clear:both; width:1000px; padding-bottom:30px; background:rgb(255,255,255); top left repeat-y;}
.main-navigation {display:inline /*Fix IE floating margin bug*/; float:left; width:200px; overflow:visible !important /*Firefox*/; overflow:hidden /*IE6*/;}
.main-content {display:inline; /*Fix IE floating margin bug*/; float:left; width:940px; margin:30px 0 0 30px; overflow:visible !important /*Firefox*/; overflow:hidden /*IE6*/;}
.footer {clear:both; width:1000px; padding:1.0em 0 1.0em 0; background:transparent; font-size:1.0em; overflow:visible !important /*Firefox*/; overflow:hidden /*IE6*/;}

/* --- For alternative headers START PASTE here --- */

/* HEADER */
.header {width:1000px; font-family:"TREBUCHET MS",arial,sans-serif;}
.header-top {width:1000px; height:100px; background:rgb(195,0,0); overflow:visible !important /*Firefox*/; overflow:hidden /*IE6*/;}
.header-middle {width:1000px; height:30px; background:transparent; overflow:visible !important /*Firefox*/; overflow:hidden /*IE6*/;}
.header-bottom {width:1000px; height:300px; background:rgb(204,0,0) repeat-y;}
.header-breadcrumbs {clear:both; width:1000px; padding:1.0em 0 1.5em 0; background:rgb(255,255,255) url(../img/bg_head_breadcrumbs.jpg) repeat-y;}

/*******************/
/* HEADER SECTION */
/*******************/
.sitelogo {width:400px; height:100px; position:absolute; z-index:1; background:url(../img/header-logo.jpg); }
.sitepic {width:1000px; height:300px; position:absolute; z-index:1; background:url(../img/header-logo.jpg); }.sitename {width:300px; height:45px; position:absolute; z-index:1; margin:20px 0 0 90px; overflow:visible !important /*Firefox*/; overflow:hidden /*IE6*/;}
.sitename h1 {font-size: ;}
.sitename h2 {margin:-4px 0 0 0; color:rgb(125,125,125); font-size:120%;}
.sitename a {text-decoration:none; color:rgb(125,125,125);}
.sitename a:hover {text-decoration:none; color:rgb(50,50,50);}

.nav0 {width:350px; position:absolute; z-index:2; margin:25px 0 0 0; margin-left:550px !important /*Non-IE6*/; margin-left:553px /*IE6*/;}
.nav0 ul {float:right; padding:0 20px 0 0;}
.nav0 li {display:inline; list-style:none;}
.nav0 li a {padding:0 0 0 3px;}
.nav0 a:hover {text-decoration:none;}
.nav0 a img {height:14px; border:none;}

.nav1 {width:350px; position:absolute; z-index:3; margin:10px 0 0 650px;}
.nav1 ul {float:right; padding:0 15px 0 0; font-weight:bold;}
.nav1 li {display:inline; list-style:none;}
.nav1 li a {display:block; float:left; padding:2px 5px 2px 5px; color:rgb(255,255,255); text-decoration:none; font-size:100%;}
.nav1 a:hover {text-decoration:none; color:rgb(145,145,145);}

.sitemessage {width:400px; height:120px; position:absolute; z-index:1; margin:30px 0 0 480px; color:rgb(234,239,247); /*overflow:visible !important /*Activate if Firefox print problems*/; overflow:hidden /*IE6*/;}
.sitemessage h1 {width:400px; text-align:right; font-size:230%;}
.sitemessage h2 {float:right; width:320px; margin:8px 0 0 0; text-align:right; line-height:100%; font-size:160%;}
.sitemessage h3 {float:right; width:320px; margin:10px 0 0 0; text-align:right; font-size:140%;}
.sitemessage h3 a {text-decoration:none; color:rgb(234,239,247);}
.sitemessage h3 a:hover {text-decoration:none; color:rgb(50,50,50);}

/*Drop-down menu*/
.nav2 {float:left; width:1000px; border:none; background:transparent url(../img/nav-bar-main.jpg) no-repeat; color:rgb(255,255,255); font-size:110%;} /*Color navigation bar normal mode*/
.nav2 ul {list-style-type:none;}
.nav2 ul li {float:left; position:relative; z-index:auto !important /*Non-IE6*/; z-index:1000 /*IE6*/; }
.nav2 ul li a {float:none !important /*Non-IE6*/; float:left /*IE-6*/; display:block; height:30px; line-height:30px; padding:0 16px 0 16px; text-decoration:none; font-weight:bold; color:rgb(255,255,255);}
.nav2 ul li ul {display:none; border:none;}

/*Non-IE6 hovering*/
.nav2 ul li:hover a {background-color:rgb(210,210,210); border: solid 1px rgb(130,130,130); text-decoration:none; color:rgb(80,80,80);} /*Color main cells hovering mode*/
.nav2 ul li:hover ul {display:block; width:140px; position:absolute; z-index:999;}
.nav2 ul li:hover ul li a {display:block; width:140px; height:auto; line-height:1.3em; padding:4px 16px 4px 16px; margin-top:-2px; border-left:solid 1px rgb(130,130,130); border-bottom: solid 1px rgb(130,130,130); background-color:rgb(210,210,210); font-weight:bold; color:rgb(80,80,80);} /*Color subcells normal mode*/
.nav2 ul li:hover ul li a:hover {background-color:rgb(204,0,0); text-decoration:none; color:rgb(255,255,255);} /*Color subcells hovering mode*/

/*IE6 hovering*/
.nav2 table {position:absolute; top:0; left:0; border-collapse:collapse;}
.nav2 ul li a:hover {background-color:rgb(210,210,210); text-decoration:none; border: solid 1px rgb(130,130,130); color:rgb(80,80,80);} /*Color main cells hovering mode*/
.nav2 ul li a:hover ul {display:block; width:140px; position:absolute; z-index:999;}
.nav2 ul li a:hover ul li a {display:block; width:140px; height:auto; line-height:1.3em; padding:4px 16px 4px 16px; margin-top:-2px; border-left:solid 1px rgb(130,130,130); border-bottom: solid 1px rgb(130,130,130); background-color:rgb(210,210,210); font-weight:bold; color:rgb(80,80,80);} /*Color subcells normal mode*/
.nav2 ul li a:hover ul li a:hover {background-color:rgb(204,0,0); text-decoration:none; color:rgb(255,255,255);} /*Color subcells hovering mode*/


.header-top .searchform {float:right; width:285px; padding:0 17px 0px 0px !important /*Non-IE6*/; padding:0 12px 0px 0px /*IE6*/;}
.header-top .searchform form fieldset {float:right; border:none;}
.header-top .searchform input.field {width:10.0em; padding:0.2em 0 0.2em 0; font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size:120%; }
.header-top .searchform input.button {width:3.0em; padding:1px !important /*Non-IE6*/; padding:0 /*IE6*/; background:transparent url(../img/search-button.gif); text-align:center; font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(150,150,150); font-size:120%;}
.header-top .searchform input.button:hover {cursorointer; background:transparent url(../img/search-button.gif);}

/******************/
/* MAIN SECTION */
/******************/

/* MAIN CONTENT */
.column1-unit {width:950px; margin-bottom:10px !important /*Non-IE6*/; margin-bottom:5px /*IE6*/;}
.column2-unit-left {float:left; width:600px; margin-bottom:10px !important /*Non-IE6*/; margin-bottom:5px /*IE6*/;}
.column2-unit-right {float:right; width:300px; margin-bottom:10px !important /*Non-IE6*/; margin-bottom:5px /*IE6*/;}
.column3-unit-left {float:left; width:283px; margin-bottom:10px !important /*Non-IE6*/; margin-bottom:5px /*IE6*/;}
.column3-unit-middle {float:left; width:283px; margin-bottom:10px !important /*Non-IE6*/; margin-bottom:5px /*IE6*/; margin-left:50px;}
.column3-unit-right {float:right; width:283px; margin-bottom:10px !important /*Non-IE6*/; margin-bottom:5px /*IE6*/;}

/********************/
/* FOOTER SECTION */
/********************/
.footer p {line-height:1.3em; text-align:center; color:rgb(125,125,125); font-weight:bold; font-size:110%;}
.footer p.credits {font-weight:normal;}
.footer a {text-decoration:underline; color:rgb(125,125,125);}
.footer a:hover {text-decoration:none; color:rgb(0,0,0);}
.footer a:visited {color:rgb(0,0,0);}

/******************/
/* CLEAR FLOATS */
/******************/
.page-container:after, .header:after, .header-breadcrumbs:after, .main:after, .main-content:after {content:"."; display:block; height:0; clear:both; visibility:hidden;}
.column1-unit:after, .column2-unit-left:after, .column2-unit-right:after, .column3-unit-left:after, .column3-unit-middle:after, .column3-unit-right:after {content:"."; display:block; height:0; clear:both; visibility:hidden;}
.footer:after, p:after {content:"."; display:block; height:0; clear:both; visibility:hidden;}
.clear-contentunit {clear:both; width:940px; height:0.1em; border:none; background:rgb(210,210,210); color:rgb(210,210,210);}

Here's TEXT.CSS:

/******************/
/* MAIN SECTION */
/******************/

/* MAIN CONTENT */
.main-content h1.pagetitle {margin:0 0 0.4em 0; padding:0 0 2px 0; border-bottom:solid 7px rgb(225,225,225); font-family:"georgia",arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(100,100,100); font-weight:bold; font-size:220%;}
.main-content h1.block {clear:both; margin:1.0em 0 0em 0; padding:2px 0 2px 2px; background:rgb(190,190,190); font-family:"georgia",arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(255,255,255); font-weight:bold; font-size:220%;}
.main-content h1 {clear:both; margin:1.0em 0 0.5em 0; font-family:"georgia",arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(80,80,80); font-weight:normal; font-size:210%;}
.main-content h2 {clear:both; margin:1.0em 0 0.5em 0; font-family:"Verdana",arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(80,80,80); font-weight:normal; font-size:170%;}
.main-content h3 {clear:both; margin:-.5em 0 0.5em 0; font-family:"Verdana",arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(125,125,125); font-weight:normal; font-size:130%;}
.main-content h1.side {clear:none;}
.main-content h2.side {clear:none;}
.main-content h3.side {clear:none;}

.main-content h4 {margin:1.5em 0 1.0em 0; color:rgb(80,80,80); font-family:"Verdana",arial,sans-serif; font-weight:normal; font-size:170%;}
.main-content h5 {margin:1.5em 0 1.0em 0; color:rgb(80,80,80); font-family:"Verdana",arial,sans-serif; font-size:140%;}
.main-content h6 {clear:both; margin:0 0 .25em 0; line-height:1em; font-family:"Verdana",arial,sans-serif; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%;}
.main-content p {margin:0 0 1.0em 0; line-height:1.5em; font-size:120%;}
.main-content p.center {text-align:center;}
.main-content p.right {text-align:right; margin-right: 10px}
.main-content p.details {clear:both; margin:-0.25em 0 1.0em 0; line-height:1.0em; font-size:110%;}
.main-content blockquote {clear:both; margin:0 30px 0.6em 30px; font-size:90%;}

.main-content table {clear:both; width:880px; margin:2.0em 0 0.2em 20px; table-layout: fixed; border-collapse:collapse; empty-cells:show; background-color:rgb(233,232,244);}
.main-content table th.top {height:3.5em; padding:0 7px 0 7px; empty-cells:show; background-color:rgb(175,175,175); text-align:left; color:rgb(255,255,255); font-weight:bold; font-size:110%;}
.main-content table th {height:3.0em; padding:2px 20px 2px 7px; border-left:solid 2px rgb(255,255,255); border-right:solid 2px rgb(255,255,255); border-top:solid 2px rgb(255,255,255); border-bottom:solid 2px rgb(255,255,255); background-color:rgb(225,225,225); text-align:left; color:rgb(80,80,80); font-weight:bold; font-size:110%;}
.main-content table td {height:3.0em; padding:2px 7px 2px 7px; border-left:solid 2px rgb(255,255,255); border-right:solid 2px rgb(255,255,255); border-top:solid 2px rgb(255,255,255); border-bottom:solid 2px rgb(255,255,255); background-color:rgb(225,225,225); text-align:left; font-weight:normal; color:rgb(80,80,80); font-size:110%;}
p.caption {clear:both; margin:0.5em 0 2.0em 20px; text-align:left; color:rgb(80,80,80); font-size:110%;}

.main-content ul {list-style:none; margin:0.5em 0 1.0em 0;}
.main-content ul li {margin:0 0 0.2em 2px; padding:0 0 0 12px; background:url(../img/bg_bullet_full_1.gif) no-repeat 0 0.5em; line-height:1.4em; font-size:120%;}
.main-content ol {margin:0.5em 0 1.0em 30px !important /*Non-IE6*/; margin:0.5em 0 1.0em 35px /*IE6*/;}
.main-content ol li {list-style-positionutside; margin:0 0 0.2em 0; line-height:1.4em; font-size:120%;}

.contactform {width:418px; margin:2.0em 0 0 0; padding:10px 10px 0 10px; border:solid 1px rgb(200,200,200); background-color:rgb(240,240,240);}
.contactform fieldset {padding:20px 0 0 0 !important /*Non-IE6*/; padding:0 /*IE6*/; margin:0 0 20px 0; border:solid 1px rgb(220,220,220);}
.contactform fieldset legend {margin:0 0 0 5px !important /*Non-IE*/; margin:0 0 20px 5px /*IE6*/; padding:0 2px 0 2px; color:rgb(80,80,80); font-weight:bold; font-size:130%;}
.contactform label.left {float:left; width:100px; margin:0 0 0 10px; padding:2px; font-size:110%;}
.contactform select.combo {width:175px; padding:2px; border:solid 1px rgb(200,200,200); font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size:110%;}
.contactform input.field {width:275px; padding:2px; border:solid 1px rgb(200,200,200); font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size:110%;}
.contactform textarea {width:275px; padding:2px; border:solid 1px rgb(200,200,200); font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size:110%;}
.contactform input.button {float:right; width:9.0em; margin-right:20px; padding:1px !important /*Non-IE6*/; padding:0 /*IE6*/; background:rgb(230,230,230); border:solid 1px rgb(150,150,150); text-align:center; font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(150,150,150); font-size:110%;}
.contactform input.button:hover {cursor: pointer; border:solid 1px rgb(80,80,80); background:rgb(220,220,220); color:rgb(80,80,80);}

.loginform {width:160px; margin:-10px 20px 0 20px;}
.loginform p {clear:both; margin:0; padding:0;}
.loginform fieldset {width:160px; border:none;}
.loginform label.top {float:left; width:125px; margin:0 0 2px 0; font-size:110%;}
.loginform label.right {float:left; width:125px; margin:5px 0 0 0; padding:0 0 0 3px; /*IE6*/; font-size:110%;}
.loginform input.field {width:158px; margin:0 0 5px 0; padding:0.1em 0 0.2em 0 !important /*Non-IE6*/; padding:0.2em 0 0.3em 0 /*IE6*/; border:solid 1px rgb(200,200,200); font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size:110%;}
.loginform input.checkbox {float:left; margin:5px 0 0 0 !important /*Non-IE6*/; margin:2px 0 0 -3px /*IE6*/; border:none;}
.loginform input.button {float:left; width:5.0em; margin:10px 0 5px 0; padding:1px; background:rgb(230,230,230); border:solid 1px rgb(150,150,150); text-align:center; font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(150,150,150); font-size:110%;}
.loginform input.button:hover {cursorointer; border:solid 1px rgb(80,80,80); background:rgb(220,220,220); color:rgb(80,80,80);}

/********************/
/* COMMON CLASSES */
/********************/
.main img {clear:both; float:left; margin:3px 10px 7px 0; padding:1px; border:1px solid rgb(150,150,150);}
.main img.center {clear:both; float:none; display:block; margin:0 auto; padding:1px; border:1px solid rgb(150,150,150);}
.main img.right {clear:both; float:right; margin:3px 0 7px 10px; margin-right:10px; padding:1px; border:1px solid rgb(150,150,150);}

.main a {color:rgb(70,122,167); font-weight:bold; text-decoration:none;}
.main-content h1 a {color:rgb(70,122,167); font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none;}
.main a:hover {color:rgb(42,90,138); text-decoration:underline;}
.main a:visited {color:rgb(42,90,138);}

.main a img {border:solid 1px rgb(150,150,150);}
.main a:hover img {border:solid 1px rgb(220,220,220);}