CSS - Css Width Vs Html Width

I'm at the very very very begaining of a table-less design (my first, actually). The problem is, since I have decided to have a non-fixed width, when the browser is minimized, at a certain point the design breaks.

See it here (please don't make fun! it's just the start): SiliconSatan.com/test.php

I'd like to set a minimum width, probably on the container <div>, so at a certain point it sort of becomes like a fixed width? No smaller than a set width?

[EDIT]

Also, I have a question about background color mismatch, but it was not quite OT for the CSS forum:

http://forums.devshed.com/web-desig...e7t-403266.html

Hello,

(please also see attached/uploaded style sheet)

I'm puzzled why (in the following code) the TEST #2 table renders as required (i.e. 2 rows in 1 column, all with the same cell WIDTH) but the table in TEST #1 seems to render the table cells (i.e. 2 columns in 1 row) without a common cell WIDTH.

How can I get all the cells (there are plenty more!) in table TEST #1 to all be exactly the same width (preferably 85px)?

Code:

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://thinet/cgi-bin/thinetStyleSheet.css">

TEST #1
<table class="menu" border=1 CELLPADDING=2>
<tr>
<td class="pinkButtons"><a title="Treats menu" href='http://thinet/theread/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=82'>Treats</a></td>
<td class="pinkButtons"><a title="New Starters, Leavers and Transfers" href='http://thinet/theread/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=41'>Joiners etc.</a></td>
</tr>
</table>

<P>

TEST #2
<table class="menu" border=1 CELLPADDING=2>
<tr><td class="pinkButtons"><a title="Treats menu" href='http://thinet/theread/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=82'>Treats</a></td></tr>
<tr><td class="pinkButtons"><a title="New Starters, Leavers and Transfers" href='http://thinet/theread/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=41'>Joiners etc.</a></td></tr>
</table>

I don't think I've quite grasped the idea of CSS yet?!?!

Any help/pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Andy

I have a header div with a background image - it's basically a pair of hands holding a banner - the arms extending to the sides of the window.

I'm trying to work it so that, no matter how wide or thin the window, the arms will always extend to the sides. So when you make it smaller, the image will disappear beyond the viewing window. This happens automatically on the right-hand side, but the image is stopping it on the left.

Is there a way to set a min-width, which is smaller then the image itself, so that when the window is shrunk the image starts to disappear on either side until it reaches the min-width? I'm trying to get it so the arms will disappear and stop at the hands.

Or can anyone suggest an alternative solution? I tried to do it with background and header image, with the arms on the background, so when the top image moves it looks like the arms move with it. That worked great until I started using a patterned background.


Full width:
|---------------------------------------|
|AAAAAAAAHHH BBBBBBBBBBBBBB HHHAAAAAAAAA|
|---------------------------------------|

Shrunk width:
------- |------------------------| --------
AAAAAAA |AHHH BBBBBBBBBBBBBB HHHA| AAAAAAAA
------- |------------------------| --------

Grey bit outside window edge.
| Window side
A Arms
H Hands
B Banner


I hope that makes sense. I expect there's an easy solution but I've been trying to figure it out for several hours and could do with someone else's perspective. Thanks.

I have a page with an ASP.NET Gridview on it...this Gridview is located in a child DIV inside a parent DIV. That Gridview can often go wider than the parent DIV width set. In IE6 the MAINDIV (Parent DIV) would expand to fit the expanded Gridview contained within the child DIV. In IE7 the DIV will not expand so it overlaps the DIV and looks bad. I want that MainDiv to dynamically grow with the child DIV width, like it did in IE6.

Please see my code below. I want the MainDiv to remain ~800px unless it is pushed out further.

Thanks for any ideas on a fix for this. Whenever I try min-width it just blows the parent DIV out to 100% screen size.

Code:

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head id="Head1" runat="server">
 
</head>
  <body style="width:100%;text-align:center;background-color:#68838B" onload="loadpage();">
      <form id="frmMain" runat="server"> 
          <div id="mainDiv" style="position:relative;top:10px;width:800px;height:auto; background-color:white;border:solid 1px #666666">        
                      <div id="contentDiv" style="text-align:left;width:797px; padding:3px 3px 3px 3px;">
                  <asp:ContentPlaceHolder ID="contentBody" runat="server"></asp:ContentPlaceHolder>
                  </div> 
          </div>
      </form>
  </body>
</html>

I'm pretty new to CSS but I'm slowly working through problems on a site I am making for some friends (more accurately a template for their content publisher) and I came across a problem. I have a table that contains all of the pictures spaced properly, but I can't get it to resize down to something that makes sense. I tried adding style="... directly to it as well as width="... but none seem to resize it. (I tried both fixed and percentages)

Link:
http://www.coreconsciousness.com/orangenew.html

Heres the code, the external CSS doesn't contain anything important at the moment:
Code:

    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta name="generator" content="HTML Tidy for Linux (vers 1 September 2005), see www.w3.org" /><!--Don't add anything above this line, you may change the DTD to match your page-->
<title>Test Page</title>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<link rel="stylesheet" href="main.css" type="text/css" />
<style type="text/css">
td.c1
{ 
background-image: 
url('images/textboxorange.gif');
background-repeat: repeat-y;
width:100%;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<table id="Table_01" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="900px">
<tr>
<td colspan="8"><img src="images/Orangenew_02.png" alt="" /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="8"><img src="images/Orangenew_04.png" alt="" /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td rowspan="2"><img src="images/Orangenew_05.png" alt="" /></td>
<td rowspan="2"><img src="images/Orangenew_06.png" alt="" /></td>
<td rowspan="2"><img src="images/Orangenew_07.png" alt="" /></td>
<td rowspan="2"><img src="images/Orangenew_08.png" alt="" /></td>
<td rowspan="2"><img src="images/Orangenew_09.png" alt="" /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><img src="images/Orangenew_11.png" alt="" /></td>
<td><img src="images/Orangenew_12.png" alt="" /></td>
<td rowspan="3"><img src="images/Orangenew_13.png" alt="" /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="7"><img src="images/Orangenew_14.png" alt="" /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="8" class="c1">
<h1>#CONTENT#</h1>
<img src="images/Orangenew_15.png" alt="" />
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

Code:

		<tr class='firstrow'>
			<th width=10%><strong>Rank</strong></th>
			<th width=40%><strong>Site</strong></th>
			<th width=25%><strong>In</strong></th>
			<th width=25%><strong>Out</strong></th>
		</tr>

that makes it exactly the way i want, but when i switch to
Code:

		<tr class='firstrow'>
			<th style='width=10%'><strong>Rank</strong></th>
			<th style='width=40%'><strong>Site</strong></th>
			<th style='width=25%'><strong>In</strong></th>
			<th style='width=25%'><strong>Out</strong></th>
		</tr>

it is sized naturally.

Internet Explorer always presents me with a challenge (partial repost). The current issue involves emulating max-width in IE using the technique described by Svend Tofte.

http://www.svendtofte.com/code/max_width_in_ie/

The CSS code uses JavaScript expressions and feeds the browser's width to the style. The CSS code follows.

* html #Content {
height: 1%;
width:expression(
document.body.clientWidth > (500/12) *
parseInt(document.body.currentStyle.fontSize)?
"30em":
"auto" );
}
This implementation resizes and displays the fluid width in IE. But it does not emulate the max-width property. Basically, I need help fixing the max-width implementation on #Content. Since max-width remains a challenge in IE, the min-width remains a greater mystery. Min-width would be nice as well. The page is complex with several wrappers for other IE display issues and JavaScript functionality. Presently, these workarounds and hacks have my head spinning.

The page has an overall wrapper #Container. #Content div has the max-width expression. It encases #div.bgWh, so the page could have true transparent round corners. One issue relates to how div.bgWh expands beyond #Content when the client's browser width approaches 260 pixels. These containers serve a purpose; but IE does not deal with their width in a predictable manner. Fortunately, Firefox does not have these issues. These scenarios leave me scratching my head more often than not. Overflow hidden property has worked for me in the past, but did not provide the magic bullet this time around.

Please load the page and shrink you browser to around 260 pixels. Keep your eye on the round corners around the main content area. The container, div.bgWh, expands beyond #Content. Please let me know if you see any relevant patterns and if you have any useful suggestions on implementing max-width. Somebody may suggest better approaches to the IE max-width conundrum.

http://neville.f2o.org/nifty_TEMP1.html

Styles in Question
#Content
div.bgWh
#Container

Hi Guys,

Consider the following box:

PHP Code:
<div style=border: 1mm black Solid;
 width: 148mm; 
height: 98mm;'>
</div> 





148mm + 1mm + 1mm = width of 150mm
98mm + 1mm + 1mm = width of 100mm

Now why does neither firefox or ie manage to get it? Firefox is about 2mm out and ie is about 3mm out?

Any ideas or is it some quirk?

Charlie

Is there a size difference between css pixels and html width pixels? The question I ask is because I am using the embed code from flickr and vimeo`s width of 220 and the search input bar in css is set to 220px, but when viewed through a browser they have different lengths. Is there a solution for making it the same length?

Hello.

I have a section where I have a few floats. For some reason IE 6 is not using the width I'm passing over for the div but IE 7 and firefox are working good.

The bot locations should be beside each other along with the address, phone ect.

http://www.nessphysiotherapy.com/contact.php

Here is a section of the code the has the div CSS.

Quote:
.twoColFixRtHdr #container2 #mainContent2 #leftContent #ContactInner #ContactILeft {
float:left;
width:70px;
}
.twoColFixRtHdr #container2 #mainContent2 #leftContent #ContactInner #ContactIMid {
float:left;
width:200px;
}
.twoColFixRtHdr #container2 #mainContent2 #leftContent #ContactInner #ContactIRight {
float:left;
width:180px;
}


Suggestions?

Hi,

I just can not really understand what the min-width and max-width properties do. Basically I am following some of the w3c tutorials and went to this link:

http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_dim_max-width

I edit the min-width property to 1000px, reduced the size of my browser, however the text inside the p tag still wraps! I tried to also set all p tags as float, but nothing!

Can someone please better explain to me what the min-width and max-width actually do and how and when to use them?

Thanks and Regards,
Sim085

http://www.crossxp.com
View that in FF and IE, you will see my dilema. Also, if you have any other browsers, does it work correctly in them?

Ok, so how do I get the main div to be the correct width in IE without it being too wide in FF, or right in FF without being too narrow in IE? Thanks a lot :O.

I need to use max-width on the center column of a 3-column layout. This works fine in Netscape 7.0, but I really need it to work in IE 6.0. I found the hack at:

http://www.svendtofte.com/code/max_width_in_ie/

but its not working for me. I'd greatly appreciate it if someone could check this mock-up I made:

http://www.geocities.com/ninaninety...idthproblem.htm

The yellow and red borders are just there as visual aids to show the columns. The yellow center column needs to stop at 36em, yet still be fluid when the browser is resized to less than that. With each variation I try, it either stays at 100%, or "locks" at the 36em and is pushed below the left column.

Thanks very much.

hey all. i have a div that has a width of 100%. is there a way of setting a min width? why you ask!! if the window is resized then the div is too! and therefore i get some overlapp from some static elements!!

any ideas??

thanks

RF

Hi,

I read some interesting news today - finally Microsoft is admitting that IE7 is just not what it's cut out to be - took them a while to work that one out.

So, whilst they're still sorting out their big bungle, I need to sort out all those IE7 errors.

Anyone know how to get the width of a <h> tag to stretch the width of the <div> it is contained within? I don't want to used a fixed with, but want to use a fluid width %. IE7 can't seem to handle that.

I have:

The CSS

Code:

#content { 
	float: left;
	width: 60%;
	border:1px solid #EFEFEF;
	margin:10px 2.5%;
}

#content h2 { 
	margin:0px;
	padding-top:5px;
	background:url(images/bg_mainMenu.gif) repeat-x bottom;
	width:100%;
	height:26px;
}

#content span.breadcrumb {
	padding-left:15px;
}

The html:

Code:

<div id="content">
<h2><span class="breadcrumb">There is some text in here</span></h2>
</div>

Of course it works in FF, but with IE7 (haven't even started to look at IE6!) the width of the <h2> stretches only to the width of the text contained within. It works in IE if I use a fixed width.

Anyone have a solution to beat this monster some attempt to call a browser?

Thanks