CSS - Css Moving From Tables To Divs - Help

Hi, this is my first effort (which will be obvious when you look at it) at using divs and css instead of tables ..

http: //pastie.org/935502

Two things that I have been unable to do at the moment are to make the text "Photographs by award winning film sound editor

Michael Redbourn" a few pixel lower,

and,

I tried centering the container that holds the text, "Most pictures are available for sale as Cards, Matted Prints, Laminated Prints, Mounted Prints, Canvas Prints and Framed Prints" by using a spacer but it doesn't display correctly.

The two images are here,

http: //i42.tinypic.com/kb60q9.jpg

and here,

http: //i42.tinypic.com/20zqsmr.gif

I'm sure you'll know how to replace the adsense banner with a placeholder.

Any help with the above two things and also any criticm and hints would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Michael

Hello folks.

I am normally pretty handy with the CSS. I develop my sites in the latest of Firefox then test in IE 6.0.

My latest site looks like gargabe in IE 6. Looks 99.99% perfect in Firefox.

Here are the two problems:

1) I can't get the sliced image on the right lined up in IE 6 for the life of me!

2) On the front page, I have 2 tables underneath a paragraph. I don't like tables but for displaying 37 small icons... you get the idea.

Anyway when you first go to the home page in IE the tables look okay. But if you navigate away then back, the icons go crazy!

Please help!

http://www.TattooSeek.info

Hi Folks,
I'm still struggling to make table-less pages - CSS layout is NOT easy at
all, even with a good book. This page however has a table for displaying
images in amongst text [it's in the Content Management System - I have to
work with it].

http://www.johniwhite.com/tests/indextest.html

The trouble is: the table is longer than its container DIV at some browser
dimensions, so it breaks out of the bottom of it - overlapping it, ALSO:
pushing the following DIV out of the way. I don't know either (A): Why the
table doesn't just stay in the containing DIV or (B): why the containing DIV
doesn't stretch with it.

Can anyone help?
Thanks
John

Hi, I'm developing a database driven site in php, which outputs results in a table.

The problem I'm having is with styling the table. I need each row to have a thin a bottom-border to seperate them, but when I use

tr {

bottom-border: 1px solid #dedede;
}

nothing happens - no border, nothing.

I can get the border to appear if I give the tr a display of block, but that breaks the table and it appears like an ordinary div.

Is there any way I can use divs to 'fake' a table so it's easier to style. Can I set the main div's display to table and each row div to table-row etc. to get them to display right.

The reason I need the table is that the site needs to be uber accessible, so I need screen readers to read the data as it would a table.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks.

Hey there, I'm pretty new to CSS, but am learning more everyday so bare with me.

I recently went over to www.csscreator.com and used their Layout creator to create a page with a header, left column, main column, right column, and footer. This whole thing is to be centered in the browser.

That went all well and good, but When I tried to put my main Header and Nav Menu in the Header Div, the entire thing gets garbled up in IE and FF. More specifically, the menu buttons and spacer gifs all become misaligned.

Should I go about this some other way or is there anything im just plain missing?

Thanks a lot...

Hi all,

I know there are certain tricks to vertically center texts or images in a div area.

And I have read somewhere there are plans to avoid current complexity compared with tables.

For example, provided I use same CSS...

Code:

div,table{
  width: 250px;
  height: 100px;
  border: 1px solid red;
  text-align: center;
}

...we optain well vertically centered text in this table...

Code:

<table>
  <tr><td>this IS vertically centered</td></tr>
</table>

...but not in this div based one...

Code:

<div>this IS NOT vertically centered</div>

I ask, do you know an easy way to acomplish the same we get with tables?

Thanks!

The objective:
Produce page content which behaves as if it were 'tabbed' as seen on many websites and programmes.

I have done this many times before, but only with absolute positioning from the document base level. This time, the div containing the information to be tabbed has to appear relative (for re-sizability) and contain the tab divs within it.

I am using a short javascript to change the z-index of the divs in order to produce the tab effect.

The problem:
The whole thing works fine, except for:
- If I leave the css height off the divs, IE chops the bottom off, and does not allow a scroll.
- If I put a height and auto (or scroll) overflow on the divs they display correctly in IE, but disappear in firefox
- Until a table contained within one of the divs becomes larger than the stated height. At which point that div (not any of the others) disappears from IE as well.

The question:
Is this a known bug? If so, what is the work-around?
Have I done something dumb? If so, what?

The source:
source files are available for download (they are quite large, and I don't want to trim them in case something in the trim is the problem. Plus they need to be large to demonstrate the length issue correctly). Text within these examples is copyrighted by various people and is used without permission, for illustrative purposes only.

the xhtml page - click through the tabs to see the effect. Add extra rows to the table in the 'dates & prices' tab to see the disappearing problem.
the javascript file - the function is at the bottom, 'layer_z_lift'.
the css stylesheet - the styles for the tabs are in the middle, commented as tour details tabs.

any questions, post and I shall answer.
Jz.

I haven't tried this before, so if I'm way off beat, I'll take directions.
What I'm trying to do is take a psd file and make a webpage from it.
So far, I think I've got the images cut correctly.
I tried using divs to begin with, but found I had to apply position:relative to compensate for extra spacing coming after images and divs. I'm placing an image then a div then an image. The spacing between the two are different. I've tried padding:0 and margin:0 just about everywhere I could think of putting it, but that didn't fix it.
So, I used RP. But, after getting it to look right in Safari, but not Firefox [just checked before posting here], I found that making the text bigger caused the divs and images to overlap. So, I thought about tables.
Yeah, same thing, so I figure I must not know something pretty basic and was wondering if anyone could help.
Both pairs of files validate.
Here are the links for the:
div based layout and it's css file
AND
table based layout and it's css file
Just in case this looks absolutley nuts on other browsers, here is a picture of where I'm trying to get to.

I'm feeling a little tortured over this one

Ok, so I've learned to stay away from tables when you don't need them, and I have an instance where this is the case. I have a container div that has a header, content and a footer. On my home page, I have to divs next to each other with the same height and a div below them towards the right.

To simplify my problem, look at this example.
Code:

<html>
  <body>
    <div style="float:right">
      Hello there!
    </div>
    <hr>    
  </body> 
</html>

If there's a "float:right" on that div, the hr tag below doesn't get pushed down. But if I use relative positioning and don't use the floats, I can't put the two top divs next to each other. The other option is to use absolute positioning, but again content below doesn't get pushed down correctly.

It seems that using "clear:both" works, but it seems weird that this has to be done. For example if I have floating divs in a container, I can get them to stretch out the container like so:

Code:

<html>
  <body>
    <div style="border: 1px solid #000; ">
      <div style="float:right">
        Hello there!<br />
        Hello there!<br />
        Hello there!<br />
        Hello there!<br />
        Hello there!<br />
        Hello there!<br />
        Hello there!<br />
      </div>
      <div style="clear: both"></div>
    </div>
    <hr>    
  </body> 
</html>

Am I missing something fundamental here? Is there a better solution? Thanks in advance.

Centering DIVs inside other DIVs in Firefox? Can it be done in a straight forward way? Setting the inner DIVs float to none seemed to work for IE but not FF.

Here's the site in Question: http://www.winchps.vic.edu.au

It's a standard fixed width floated DIV columns with a wrapper. One thing it does have is a second DIV inside both columns to display the Gradient background over the top of the repeated background. It works perfect in Firefox & IE7 (with a tweak) but IE6 mkes the sidebar nested div drop below the original sidebar DIV click here for a screenshot for those lucky enough not to have IE6.

Here's the CSS code for the basic layout:

Code:

body {
font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif;
font-size: 12px;
text-align: center;
margin: 0px 0px 60px 0px;
padding:0px;
border: 0;
line-height: 2;
}

#header {
width: 802px;
}

#wrapper {
width: 802px;
margin:0px;
padding: 0px;
text-align: left;
margin: 0 auto;
background: url(images/bodybg.jpg) center repeat-y;
}

#content {
padding: 0px;
margin: 0px;
}

#maingrad {
background: url(images/winchcontentgrad.jpg) top left repeat-x;
padding: 10px;
}

#main {
width: 589px;
float: right;
background: url(images/winchcontentbg.jpg) repeat;
border-left: solid 1px #000;
border-right: solid 1px #000;
}

#mainstop {
width: 589px;
float: right;
background: url(images/winchcontentbg.jpg) repeat;
border-left: solid 1px #000;
border-right: solid 1px #000;
border-bottom: solid 1px #000;
font-size: 10px;
}

#sidebargrad {
background: url(images/winchsidebargrad.jpg) top left repeat-x;
padding: 10px 5px 0px 10px;
}

#sidebar {
width: 200px;
float: left;
background: url(images/winchsidebg.jpg) repeat;
line-height: 2;
font-size: 14px;
border-left: solid 1px #000;
border-right: solid 1px #000;
}

I obviously need to put a conditional comment in there, same for what I did for the minor IE7 tweak, but I'm struggling to suss out what's causing it, I haven't found the specific issue on any of the regular sites (PIE etc).

Anyone got any ideas?

The Example

I've read a bunch about how div's won't stretch to accomidate div's inside of them if they overrun the height/min-height set for the container div.

How do I get around this? You can see the skeleton of the site above. It's fine unless you resize the window smaller than the content.

I'm not confident enough with CSS to just use it, so I'm mixing it with some tables too.

I want a layout with two tables next to each at the top and then another below.

The two at the top are working fine, but the one below keeps jumping back up to the top.

I've managed to get an ugly fix by putting in a load of <br> but this doesn't work in IE7 (unless I add a lot more, pushing the content way down in other browsers) and isn't much of a solution.

The other problem I have is that I want to have the majority of my page with a white background, but to get a surrounding border I've set the body background to be a colour and then placed a div around all the content. I want this div to be the size of the page and so set it's height to 100%, but this makes it too small. Not sure why.

Here is my code for my page and CSS.

If anyone can help I'd be most grateful.

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title></title>
<link href="incl/default.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function navon(num) {
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.backgroundColor = '#CDEB8B';
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingTop = '0px'
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingBottom = '0px'; 
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderTopWidth = '10px';
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderBottomWidth = '10px';
	
}

function navoff(num) {
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.backgroundColor = '#C3D9FF';
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingTop = '8px'
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingBottom = '8px'; 
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderTopWidth = '2px';
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderBottomWidth = '2px';
}
//-->
</script>

</head>

<body>
<div class="main">

<table width="29%" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" align="left">
<tr>
<td><img src="" alt="" width="230" height="80" border="0" /></td>
</tr>
</table>

<table width="70%" height="60px" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" align="right">
<tr>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav1" onmouseover="navon('1')" onmouseout="navoff('1')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav2" onmouseover="navon('2')" onmouseout="navoff('2')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav3" onmouseover="navon('3')" onmouseout="navoff('3')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav4" onmouseover="navon('4')" onmouseout="navoff('4')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav5" onmouseover="navon('5')" onmouseout="navoff('5')">link</td>
</tr>
</table>
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" align="center">
<tr>
<td width="70%">
some content
</td>
<td width="30%">
some more content
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
</body>
</html>

Code:

@charset "utf-8";
/* CSS Document */

body {
	padding-right: 4%;
	padding-left: 4%;
	padding-top: 30px;
	padding-bottom: 30px;
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 14px;
	letter-spacing: 0.1em;
	color: #000000;
	background-color: #EEEEEE;
}
a:link {
	color: #000000;
	text-decoration: none;
}
a:visited {
	color: #000000;
	text-decoration: none;
}
a:active {
	color: #000000;
	text-decoration: none;
}
a:hover {
	color: #000000;
	text-decoration: underline;
}
.main {
	background:#FFFFFF;
	border: 10px solid #36393D;
	width: 89%;
	padding: 5%;
}
.nav {
	padding: 8px;
	background-color: #C3D9FF;
	vertical-align: middle;
	text-align: center;
	font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 24px;
	color: #36393D;
	cursor:pointer;
	border: 2px solid #36393D;
}

Code:

<style type="text/css">
<!--
div.wrapper {
   width: 400px;
   margin: 0 auto;
}
div.menu {
   color: blue;
   white-space: pre;
   text-align: right;
   font-size: 90%;
   margin: 200px 500px 200px 100px;
   }
div.submenu {
   color: blue;
   white-space: pre;
   margin: 150px 300px 500px -10px;
   font-size: 70%;
   line-height: 180%; 
}
body {
   background: white url("Images/background.jpg") no-repeat top scroll;
   text-align:justify;
     margin:200;
     padding:0;
}
body,td,th {
   font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
}
-->
</style></head>
<body>
<div class="wrapper">
<div class="menu"><span><button style="width:100;height:30" onClick="window.location='XXXXXXX.htm'">MASTER</button></span>  <span><button style="width:100;height:30" onClick="window.location='XXXXXXX.htm'">MASTER</button></span> <span><button style="width:200;height:30" onClick="window.location='XXXXXXX.htm'">MASTER</button></span> <span><button style="width:200;height:30" onClick="window.location='XXXXXXX.htm'">MASTER</button></span>  
<div class="submenu">
<span>  <button style="width:200;height:30" onClick="window.location='prva.htm'">title lef</button><br /></span>
<span><button style="width:200;height:30" onClick="window.location='XXXXXXX.htm'">title lef</button><br /></span>
<span><button style="width:200;height:30" onClick="window.location='prva.htm'">title lef</button><br /></span><br /></span>
<span>title lef<br /></span>
<span>title lef<br /></span>
</div>
</body>
</html> 

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loverbugs

Old story...looks good in IE but, different in FireFox:

link to page

My goal is to have all the footer infor appear below the content...not wrap up.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!