CSS - Accessibility Problem!
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I have a small problem. I nearly created all the CSS of my web application, and have my layour in place .. and so far I did not even use one single table for the design. However now I tried to see how my website breaks up when the user Scrolls the mouse while pressing Ctrl (if you do this on google you will notice the fonts get small or bigger depending on how the user scrolls). To my amazment nothing happens. The website stayed as is!! I have defined all fonts (normal text, headers, etc) using the pt notation (example font-size: 10pt. I tried using the em notation, but nothing happened either. Now I am a little bit scared. I tought that this feature is a must-have for accessability and I really wanted to make sure that my website was accessable (This was one of the reasons why I wanted to develop a website with only css!) Does anyone have any ideas about this? Regards, Sim085 Similar TutorialsOn the one hand Accessibility guidelines state that sites should work even if stylesheets fail to load... ... and then on another hand, you're told not to include any style/layout/formatting within an html page - to use the stylesheet instead. My question is this. Say i create a site which is arranged in the common layout of header at top, nav menu floated to the left, main content sitting on the right, and then footer below. Should the layout of the div's, namely the float left etc be within the webpage or the stylesheet. I guess most people will say stylesheet, but that means if the stylesheet fails to load, the site layout will be completely messed up with the content appearing below the nav menu. Do you make an exception in this case and include some limited layout-style information in the webpage? What are people's opinions on this? The Q tag is supposed to be used for inline quotations, whereas the BLOCKQUOTE tag for longer quotations. The Q tag is suppose to render quotation marks around the enclosed quote, but does not do so in IE. As far as I known (have read in various articles), IE is the only browser that does not enclose the quote with quotation marks. I have a single-lined quote I want to display and was hoping to use the Q tag as I don't find it neccessary to use the BLOCKQUOTE tag since it's only a 5-word sentence and the BLOCKQUOTE does not render quotation marks around the data in any browser (instead indents both the left and right margins). If I were to forget about both tags competely and just enclose my quote with quotation marks it would 'appear' correct, though it does not adhear to accessibility guidelines as a screen-reader browser like JAWS would not realize it is actually a quotation and would read it the same as any other text enclosed in a P tag. If I were to use the Q tag and add the quotation marks, IE would look right, but in all the other browsers there would be double quotation marks. Should I de-style the Q tag so the quotation marks do not show? If that is possible I could continue using the appropriate tag and just add the quotation marks manually but it would still look right on all web browsers (including text-only browsers), and it would be read properly. Though, is that even possible? and if it were, is it backwards-compatible or will it only work on recent web browsers? Another alternative would be to use the BLOCKQUOTE and add the quotations manually and style the BLOCKQUOTE tag accordingly... but again, this is meant for longer quotations, but may be the only reasonable alternative? OR style the Q tag to have quotation marks before and after in IE, but IE doesn't support 'content:' correct? Does anyone know of a solution? or which of my 'fixes' would you suggest? Thank you. Edit I was thinking about this more and I think I came up with a pretty good solution: Code: q:before, q:after { content:''; } IE already doesn't display the quotes so it doesn't matter that it doesn't support the above code, the rest of the browsers do (i think?), so I can continue to use the Q tag, whilst adding the quotation marks manually. Good fix? I know there is a forum for this, so I will not paste any URL or such without permission (I don't have 30 posts required to even post there, so). I don't want to get banned, etc. for posting something so instead I will simply ask^_^ & say, "Thank you!" for everyone is helpful here & provides a good community (& endless reading material via posts, tutorials etc!). So, what am I really asking about? "I've been learning XHTML & CSS as a hobby for the past few weeks & needed something to experiment with; my excuse for this practice takes on the form of a personal webpage (not quite comfortable with my name online, I created a pseudonymous company name). For this little project, my goal was to be simple: accessible, valid, & XHTML/CSS only (with hopefully no Javascript or as few hacks/filters as possible)." With that said, it would probably be helpful to actually see my web page to let me know how it's going....but as I said, I don't think it would really belong here (this is not website critique forum & I am not really sure where else to ask since I love this community) I have tested it's viewability on IE6/win, Opera 9.24, Firefox 2.0.0.11 & Safari 3.0b/win, but I don't have access to a Mac machine, either. It's built to be usable with 800x600 resolution (or viewport) in mind, though I designed it with 1024x768. Would it be okay if I ask for some of the more experienced designers to take a look at my coding & layouts to make sure everything is on track? A random thought popped into my head today about whether it matters if a site is fluid or static with regards to accessibility. Wherever possible I do try to design fluid sites but is there anything wrong with a static design if you then add an extra CSS file for handheld devices etc? I'm designing a webpage that uses an image for the header/logo. i need the page to have certain things: (1) it needs to be accessible for screen readers (2) it needs to have two stylesheets - the main one <link href= ............. media="screen"/> + one that enables printing of text only, without images e.g. <link href= ............. media="print"/> To get (1) i need to have the alt="whatever" attribute in the html, but i can only do that if i have img src="xxxxx" in the html. To get the print-text-only style sheet i need to have the image in the main css stylesheet e.g. background-image:url (xxx/xxx); instead of having img src="xxxxx" in the html. So my question is: how do I get alt="whatever" if there's no img src="xxxxx" in the html? Or what's the alternative? I hope this makes sense to you, 'cause I've been going round in circles with it! TIA, jifjaf Hi guys, For a pure CSS site, is it depreciated to have a border="0" tag in <img elements? (My reasoning is that if one browser doesn't support CSS, it will show the user images with ugly borders... that's anyway the default behavior in IE and FF). Thank you Hey, I think i just need someone else to look at this for me. I've been coding all day and would probably be able to figure this out if I just went to bed and did it tomorrow. If you roll over an image that's alson an anchor at www.deeperdevotion.com/wp, you'll find that it places a background-color or underline or both on it. The thing is, I can't find the code in my CSS that's causing me the trouble. my css is located at www.deeperdevotion.com/wp/wp-content/themes/dd/styles/101106.css Thanks. Hello everyone, I am hoping I could get some help on this. I'm the new Marketing guy at this company. One of my duties is to fix an issue with our website which was built by the last guy to sit in this chair. I may not know how to build a proper webpage, but this guy knew exactly how not to do it and ran with just that. So, the issue lies within this example page: tinyurl.com/rediculouswebsite The footer ends up under-lapping the table when viewed in IE (when not in compatibility mode) and Firefox. I know this is a ridiculously constructed site, I just need to fix this one problem and be done with web development forever. High fives and scotch from my boss very well may ensue. Thank you all very much. Hello. I am new at css and web design so if these are easy problems please excuse. First of all, the website url http://www.onlinecasinoboss.com In Firefox, the unordered lists <ul> in the left column do not display correctly. The left margin is way too big. I'm not sure why, please look at the page in IE to see what I want it to look like. And in Internet Explorer, the spacing between my top image, header bar, and main page is screwy. There should be no space between the header image and header bar (the flags are in this area). Also there should only be 2px spacing between the header and the main page, however it appears there is atleast 24px there. Again please refer to the page in FF to see what I want it to look like. I like css, and have decided to pursue my first design in css based off of the many professional designers reconmendations and reviews. But I must say it is a major headache to deal with cross-browser/platform display problems. And what professional designer wants to rely on 'css-hacks' when producing a product for a major vender. Just beginner bitching. Thanks for the help! I'm not too sure what the problem is here but you will notice that my <div> that has the page title in doesn't align to the top of the wrapper <div>. How do I do this? To see what I mean, go he allwhatsrock.com/articles/new.php Hi, I am very stuck with the following issue: I already have a page with layout.css and there is a popup contact form that I like to add to this page which also has its own css file (popup-contact.css). <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="styles/layout.css"> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="styles/popup-contact.css"> When I have it like the above, only the layout.css is run and the form pops up without the style. How can I have the form in its proper style when I already have another css on the same page? Thank you in advanced Here is the webpage I am working on: http://sulley.dm.ucf.edu/~ebuccianti/iesucks/ As you can see, I have three different DIVs here, the yellow, then the orange, then another yellow. The first yellow is supposed to stop at the same vertical point as the "websites" image. It works fine in Firefox and Opera, but if you view it in Internet Explorer, you will see that the first yellow goes on a little longer than it is supposed to. What can I do to fix this? Here is the CSS stylesheet I used: http://sulley.dm.ucf.edu/~ebuccianti/iesucks/includes/style.css I'm not sure how to search for this if it has already been discussed. So, if this sounds familiar - please forgive me. I am redesiging my website into a full CSS layout to replace all of my tables. This is the original site: http://www.erikreagan.com This is what I'm working on for the new CSS one: http://www.erikreagan.com/testpage.html I have two problems. The first is that my menu on the left does not work correctly in WinIE. I used z-index to get it to work in firefox but IE still won't display it correctly. Notice that the same exact menu is in the content area and it works properly in IE. I can't figure this out for the life of me. Here's problem two. It refers to this page: http://www.erikreagan.com/testpage.php In this php version of the layout the menu is the same (good in FF but bad in IE). Notice on the left there is a link that says ">>My Blog". It does not work in firefox but does work in IE. Why is that? Someone please help me. I have done all I know to fix these problems and have gotten no where. I have asked friends who tell me 'just look at the code. it's there' and I can't find a thing. This is very frustrating. Someone please help! Thank you. CSS file this all refers to: http://www.erikreagan.com/main.css I have created a nav bar with css using the widely distributed '<ul>' coding. The problem I am having I think is with the anchor tags. The look of the nav bar is fine but depending on the float position the anchor tag immediately next to it won't follow the css. Here is the css.. body { margin:0; padding:0; } div.container { text-align:center; } div.center { margin-top:20px; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; width:800; text-align:left; } div.left { float:left; width:100; height:500; background-color:#007700; } div.right { float:right; width:130; height:500; background-color:#e8e8e8; font-size:10pt; } div.header { clear:both; width:40%; } div.footer { clear:both; margin:0; width:100%; } ul { float:left; width:100%; padding:0; margin:0; list-style-type:none; } a.topmenu { float:right; width:5em; height:2em; text-decoration:none; color:#005500; background-color:#e8e8e8; padding:0.2em 0.6em; border-right:1px solid #005500; } a.topmenu:hover { background-color:#005500; color:#e8e8e8; } a.topmenu:visited { float:right; width:5em; text-decoration:none; color:#005500; background-color:#e8e8e8; padding:0.2em 0.6em; border-right:1px solid #005500; } li { display:inline; } a.leftmenu { color:#ffffff; text-decoration:none; } a.leftmenu:hover { color:black; } a.leftmenu:visited { color:#ffffff; text-decoration:none; } and here is the html <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="newstyle.css"/> </head> <body> <div class='container'> <div class='center'> <img src="fdat_logo_short.jpg" width=250 /> <ul> <li><a class='topmenu' href="contact.php">Contact Us</a></li> <li><a class='topmenu' href="about.php">About Us</a></li> <li><a class='topmenu' href="services.php">Services</a></li> <li><a class='topmenu' href="news.php">News</a></li> <li><a class='topmenu' href="home.php">Home</a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body> </html> So I have tested in all versions of IE and IE 7 seems to be the only one that gives me a problem. I have tried so many hacks. And now I am at a loss of ideas,time and mind. the site is woodbuiltright com / index-alpha1 php It seems the "E-Page" Div does not expand to contain everything. I have tried clearing divs but I must be missing something. Thanks Need to know how the pull down menu and a browse button could take a style like http://www.discovertravel.no/ i tried to make it but it did not work on firefox... so can anyone help me to make this style coz it appears well in firefox. Hello all, Apologies to be asking for help on my first post, but I've scoured the internet looking for what is probably a quick fix but without the terminology I'm losing hours - time to ask for help! my site is englas.pl and in forefox it's fine. In ie8 it seems to be fine as well, the problem is with ie 6&7. The CSS validates according to the w3c site. (Sorry, can't add urls as i'm a new user) ie6&7 'cuts' off the bottom section of text where the container meets menu-bottom-bkg. At least this is what is visibly the case when you look at the webpage. The custom div look like this: #container { background: #FFF url(../images/bkg_container.png) repeat-y; min-height: 100%; width: 1190px; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 14px 0 14px; } #header { background: url(../images/bkg_header.png); height: 127px; width: 1160px; margin: 0; padding: 15px 0 0 30px; } #menu-top-bkg { background: url(../images/bkg_menu_top.png) no-repeat left top; height: 128px; width: 1190px; margin: 0 0 -128px 0; } #wrapper { overflow: auto; background: url(../images/bkg_menu.png) repeat-y left; min-height: 500px; width: 1190px; margin: 0; padding: 0; } #menu { float: left; background: none; min-height: 370px; width: 159px; margin: 0; padding: 110px 0 0 0; } #content { float: right; background: url(../images/bkg_content.png) no-repeat right top; min-height: 400px; width: 763px; margin: 0 0 0 25px; padding: 15px 243px 10px 0; } #menu-bottom-bkg { background: url(../images/bkg_menu_bottom.png) no-repeat; height: 141px; width: 1190px; margin: -111px 0 0 0; } #footer { background: url(../images/bkg_footer.png); height: 100px; width: 1190px; margin: 0; padding: 16px 0 0 0; } I've gone through the html and i can't find any evidence of it being this, so i'm hoping that the css work above doesn't comply with something in the ie6&7 coding spec. I've read the guidelines to posting, so I've edited the post as much as possible to be helper friendly! Many thanks to all, doodlebug I've spent a good amount of time searching this site for an answer. Although I found some good information, I am still hitting this brick wall. My DIV tag works in IE but not FF. Below are three links. The top two are to my site and the one below is to another site doing the same thing I'm doing but working fine in both browsers. I can't explain it any better. http:www.humito.com/contact.html (set up for IE) http:www.humito.com/contact2.html (set up for FF) http://plazamexico.com/menu/abouttheplaza.html (just like first link) can someone share some insight. I have two problems, 1. One page of my website centers nicely in everything but but IE, trying to fix. Can't figure out what to do. 2. I attempted to use Firebug to see if I could figure out why this one page does not center vs all the others but it escapes me. Then I realized I was using Firebug in Firefox, how would it know there was a problem in IE. I am a new member of this forum so I can't post a URL for you to look at. |