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CSS - Million Dollar Problem - Collapsing Table Margins - Ie/firefox Disagree
Everyone knows about collapsing margins, but not everyone knows that inline blocks never collapse.
So it would appear that IE treats tables as block elements (so margins collapse) and firefox treats them as god-knows-what (but akin to inline elements - so they do not collapse). Now, whether its right or wrong, I want the firefox behaviour - so I tried to display the tables as inline. This fixes IE.... but breaks firefox - the tables "loose" their width parameter so they don't display with correct widths. Does any CSS guru know a nice solution to this dilema (I know a couple of dirty solutions). To elaborate further on what is going in: There are a number of tables one after the other in the normal flow of the document that need to be seperated by certain margins. Similar TutorialsI thought I had this worked out before with the help of this forum, but it seems to be back again! In IE 6 (and maybe others, who knows. I am running Ubuntu =/ ) there is a big gap between the top horizontal nav and the comic. http://www.jjsunshines.com/ Any help would be greatly appreciated! I'll even trade you php help! Or really in this case their not collapsing like the should be. I have extra white space above each heading link in the gallery: http://www.sonicparke.com/skydev/gallery/ I'm also guessing that the same issue is causing the whitespace above the single column pages across the site like these: http://www.sonicparke.com/skydev/about.php http://www.sonicparke.com/skydev/about.php But it's weird that it's not happening on these: http://www.sonicparke.com/skydev/news.php I know that the zen.css file is a mess but I plan on cleaning it up a little later once I've worked through figuring out what I need and don't need. Maybe that's part of my problem but I'm still having the issue on the single column pages which don't even use the zen.css stylesheet. Thanks for the help. Hi, My site is at pageShree and I'm having trouble with margins or padding, i can't tell which. In FF there are gaps between the main box with the news in it. In IE6 they aren't there, how do I get it to work in FF? My CSS Code can be seen he http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://pageshree.com/style.css Thanks Hi all, I am trying to collapse columns on double click by changing the style visibility of a col class from visible to collapse. Nice idea idea but it is not supported on IE and , although Firefox claims it does, with Firefox doesn't work either. sooo, do you know of any alternative to using the collapse thingie? 'hidden' is not an option as it leaves the space of the column on the table layout. I am checking the display prop now but I am not understanding it very well if it's a solution for me. many thanks in advance. Hi I have a table which i want to have cellpadding of 6. when i view it in ie it works perfectly, but when i view it in firefox it adds about 12 and makes the padding huge. any ideas whats wrong? i've found that firefox seems to screw alot of css things up. heres the code im using: Code: <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; border-top: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-bottom: 1px solid #C0C0C0" bordercolor="#111111" width="100%" id="AutoNumber1" background="network_bg.jpg"> <tr> <td width="100%"> <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber2" align="right" width="947"> <tr> <td> </td> <td> Hello, I was hoping somebody can help me. I have been playing around with the problem, but I can't seem to figure it out. It is regarding my navbar not aligning properly in firefox. If you view this section of my site . com/musicians/ In IE it looks as it should, however in firefox it's way off on the right. I am using 2 stylesheets for this page; . com/wp-content/themes/WP-Genius/style-music.css . com/musicians/skins/Nova/Nova.css If anybody can provide me some insight on how to fix this, that would be greatly appreciated Thanks! Hello, I recently started creating websites again and I have been pulling my hair out on this Firefox compatibility issue. The site navigation looks great in IE but in Firefox a couple of the background images are skewed down and to the left. Since all my tricks from years ago are so outdated now, I decided to try CSS for a simplified navigation setup. The code is probably pretty messy since I chopped it together from numerous sources and still am not completely sure how it works. Background: I created a large 794x1200 PNG image that contains two complete border and navigation sets. I am using CSS to both position the appropriate portion in each table/cell as well as switching to a slice on the 2nd image set for rollover purposes. An example of the current test is he (URL address blocked: See forum rules) *not sure if this is okay but would be best to see the example. If it is not allowed as a non-clickable then feel free to delete. It is here - classtime . org / test6 . htm and the navigation image is he (URL address blocked: See forum rules) *classtime . org / navigate . png I would be eternally grateful to anyone that can help me figure out why the site works great in IE but is coming up skewed in Firefox. As a side note, when I pull up the site in Frontpage, it shows the left-most cell as being larger than it is supposed to be even though it is hardcoded. To get my left image bar to show up in the correct place I had to use a value of "left: -40px;" I'm not sure why that is but I suspect it has something to do with the problem. Thank you very much for taking a look. My jumbled code is as follows: Code:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"(URL address blocked: See forum rules)">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<title>Ultrasonic Blind Company - Elk Grove Village, Illinois</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<style type="text/css" media="screen">
a:link {color: #FFF4D1;}
a:visited {color: #FFF4D1;}
a:hover {color: #74060c;}
a:active {color: #FFF4D1;}
.top a
{
display: block;
width: 794px;
height: 120px;
background-image: url('navigate.png');
}
.top a:hover {
background-position: 0px -601px;
}
#left {
left: -40px;
width: 150px;
height: 460px;
display: block;
background: url('navigate.png');
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 0px -120px;
position: relative;
}
#left li {margin: 0px; padding: 0px; list-style: none; position: absolute;
text-align: center;
font: bold 18px Batang;
line-height: 50px;
}
#left li, #left a {height: 50px; width: 146px; display: block;}
#panel1b {top: 10px;}
#panel2b {top: 63px;}
#panel3b {top: 116px;}
#panel4b {top: 169px;}
#panel5b {top: 223px;}
#panel1b a:hover {background: transparent url('navigate.png') 0px -730px no-repeat}
#panel2b a:hover {background: transparent url('navigate.png') 0px -785px no-repeat}
#panel3b a:hover {background: transparent url('navigate.png') 0px -839px no-repeat}
#panel4b a:hover {background: transparent url('navigate.png') 0px -890px no-repeat}
#panel5b a:hover {background: transparent url('navigate.png') 0px -945px no-repeat}
#right {
width: 154px;
height: 460px;
display: block;
background: url('navigate.png');
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: -640px -120px;
position: relative;
}
#right li {margin: 0px; padding: 0px; list-style: none; position: absolute;
text-align: right;
font: bold 18px Batang;
}
#right li, #right a {height: 85px; width: 154px; display: block;}
#panel1r {top: 0px;}
#panel2r {top: 100px;}
#panel3r {top: 200px;}
#panel4r {top: 300px;}
#panel1r a:hover {background: transparent url('navigate.png') -640px -721px no-repeat}
#panel2r a:hover {background: transparent url('navigate.png') -640px -821px no-repeat}
#panel3r a:hover {background: transparent url('navigate.png') -640px -921px no-repeat}
#panel4r a:hover {background: transparent url('navigate.png') -640px -1021px no-repeat}
</style>
</head>
<body bgcolor=#74060c>
<div align=center>
<table id="Table_01" width=794px height=600px border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td colspan="3" height="120" width="794" bgcolor="#FFF4D1">
<div class="top">
<a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)"></a>
</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align=left valign=top height=674px width=150px bgcolor="#FFF4D1">
<ul id="left">
<li id="panel1b"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)" style="text-decoration: none">Contact</a></li>
<li id="panel2b"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)" style="text-decoration: none">Residential</a></li>
<li id="panel3b"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)" style="text-decoration: none">Commercial</a></li>
<li id="panel4b"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)" style="text-decoration: none">Coupons</a></li>
<li id="panel5b"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)" style="text-decoration: none">Questions</a></li>
</ul>
</td>
<td align=left valign=top width=490px height=674px bgcolor="#FFF4D1">
aaa</td>
<td align=left valign=top width=154px height=674px bgcolor="#FFF4D1">
<p align=right> <ul id="right">
<li id="panel1r"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)" style="text-decoration: none"></a></li>
<li id="panel2r"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)" style="text-decoration: none"></a></li>
<li id="panel3r"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)" style="text-decoration: none"></a></li>
<li id="panel4r"><a href="(URL address blocked: See forum rules)" style="text-decoration: none"></a></li>
</ul>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
</body>
</html>
Hello, I have a page with the left margin set to 100. How can I use CSS to make a table have a left margin of 0. I need everything else to be @ left margin 100. So I want to totally ignore the left margin setting only for this table. Hi! Could some experienced CSS developer please confirm this: All paddings, and right and left margins, always combine (what I mean is if you have a left object with a 5px right margin and a right object with a 5px left margin, the distance between the two will be 10px). However, bottom & top margins never combine. Is all this true? Why doesn't the following code result in a blue border that is 10px wide? PHP Code: <Table> <tr> <td style="background-color: 0000FF;"> <Table> <tr> <td style="background-color: FF0000; padding: 10; margin: 10; border: 10px solid #00FF00;"> Test Font </td> </tr> </Table> </td> </tr> </Table> I am having a problem where I have a <div> that holds my body image, margin: 0 auto; Inside that is my content <div> with margin:15px; but this is visually dropping the background image's margin by 15px. The problem compounds every time I add another margin/padding requirement into the rest of the <div>. Code: html, body {
margin:0px;
padding:0px;
background-image:url(images/interface/background.png);
}
#body_image {
width:935;
margin:0 auto;
padding:0px;
background-image:url(images/interface/body.png);
background-repeat:no-repeat;
background-position:center;
}
#container {
width:904px;
height:750px;
margin:15px;
}
#slug {
height:15px;
}
Code: <div id="body_image"> <div id="container"> <div id="header">Header</div> <div id="nav">Nav</div> <div id="sidebar">Sidebar</div> <div id="content">Content</div> <div id="footer">Footer</div> </div> </div> The extent of my CSS is a few tutorials online and the class I took 10 years ago where the teacher said "Here's CSS, you can't do much more than change your font size and color with it... on to tables!" Thought it'd only be fair to give you a little background. Hi all! I am a bit of a newb to CSS, and could certainly use some help on this slight problem that I can't seem to figure out. Here is the link. And the code is at the bottom as well. If you look closely you will see that in the main page content, the text to the right of the quote is just a little bit further right than text below the quote. I must admit that I find a bit of CSS still quite confusing. I could certainly use any help that all of you could provide. Thanks in advance! Code:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<style type="text/css">
body {
margin: 0px;
background: #006600;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: medium;
text-align: left;
color: #FFFFFF;
text-decoration: none;
}
div#head {
background: #FFFFFF;
width: 100%;
height: 100px;
}
div#menu {
text-align: right;
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: bold;
position: absolute;
top: 88px;
right: 50px;
color: #000000;
font-variant: small-caps;
}
div#title {
text-align: right;
font-size: x-large;
margin: 25px;
margin-right: 50px;
font-style: oblique;
}
div#quote {
text-align: center;
font-size: large;
width: 200px;
margin-top: 50px;
margin-left: 10px;
float: left;
}
div#content {
margin-left: 250px;
padding-left: 25px;
padding-right: 25px;
border-left: 1px solid #FFFFFF;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="head">
</div>
<div id="menu">
Link 1 | Link 2 | Link 3
</div>
<div id="title">
Welcome to CLA
</div>
<div id="quote">
"This is a quote from some guy who said something profound."<br />
- Leonardo da Vinci
</div>
<div id="content">
<p>Established at the University of California, Irvine in November of 2001, The da Vinci Research Center for Learning Through the Arts builds on the expertise and combined knowledge of faculty in the Arts disciplines, Education, Social Ecology and Medicine to study the nexus of relationships between arts education, aspects of cognitive and social development, civic engagement, and public policy information.</p>
<p>The center fosters interdisciplinary studies that involve appropriate faculty from several other parts of the campus as well as from other institutions.</p>
<p>For more information please contact us: </p>
<blockquote>
(949) 824-8942<br />
Wendy Lee, Assoc. Director<br />
Claire Trevor School of the Arts<br />
University of California<br />
Irvine, CA 92697-2775
</blockquote>
</div>
</body>
</html>
Problem here - view in IE6 Relative CSS Hello! This is quite an odd one. In IE6, there's a problem whereby upon hovering over the category / product links, the position of elements will shift a small amount. This is the best I can explain the issue really. There are no positioning changes attributed to the .hover pseudo-element on either class. I have a feeling it has something to do with margins, but am at a loss trying to find the solution. Any help rewarded with a glacier cherry, some sugar and 44 gleaming rep points Hi! Is is vicious to display a table as "display: block" to force margin-collapsing? Otherwise there's no margin collapsing with other elements. Thanks In mozilla firefox (and possibly other browsers, iv only tested in firefox and IE) the margins of my class="subtitle" div, "escape" my class="content" div. Basically the 10px margin of subtitle acts outside the content div, when it is inside it. My site is http://rapwars.ace-spades.com and the css is http://rapwars.ace-spades.com/include/stylesheets/rapwars_main.css If you visit the site you will see that the white area with the "subtitle" text box in, is pushed about 10px down from the flash navigation. Thank you for any help I am desperate. I think I found a bug in Firefox, and I'm not sure how to work around it. The following code works in everything (IE 8, Chrome, Safari, Opera) except Firefox (version 3.6.3). Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug in Firefox? You can look what happens to the drop-down menu's on Menu 2 and 3 live by going to my site (deenfoxx dot com slash firefox-bug dot html). css Code: Original - css Code #main-nav { background-color: black; height: 40px; } #nav { position: relative; margin: 0; padding: 0; } #nav li { position: relative; float: left; display: table; width: 99px; height: 40px; border-right: 1px solid white; text-align: center; font-size: 10px; } #nav li:hover { background-color: darkred; } #nav a { display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle; line-height: 11px; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; color: #fff; } #nav li ul { position: absolute; padding: 0; background-color: gray; top: 40px; left: 0px; } #nav li ul li { width: 98px; border: 0; border-top: 1px solid white; } #main-nav html4strict Code: Original - html4strict Code <div id="main-nav"> <ul id="nav"> <li id="m1"><a href="#1">Main Menu 1</a></li> <li> <a href="#2">Main Menu 2</a> <ul> <li><a href="#2a">Sub-Category 1</a></li> <li><a href="#2b">Sub-Category<br/>with multiple lines</a></li> </ul> </li> <li> <a href="#3">Main Menu 3 with multiple lines</a> <ul> <li><a href="#3a">Sub-Category 2</a></li> </ul> </li> <li><a href="#4">Main Menu item which has a really long name on it</a></li> </ul> </div> <div id="main-nav"> The problem appears to be that "#nav li" happens to have position:relative; and a display:table; and "#nav li ul" is position:absolute;. Normally, absolute positioning requires its parent or ancestor position to be set, but when used with the table display, it doesn't work normally on Firefox--but it does on other browsers. Can someone help me with a workaround that does not involve altering the HTML? If I must, I will accept a workaround that requires changing the HTML, but I'll have to do some heavy duty recoding of Magento's core menu generation. Anyone that knows Magento knows I want to avoid that like the plague--my example is a very simplified version of the problem. Hi All, This seems to be a bit of a recurring problem for me in a lot of the new CSS designs I'm trying... but it seems that IE interprets both padding and margins differently than how firefox interprets them. Sometimes it seems to do it the same, and other times differently. Take a look at this: http://zeroonedesign.com/beta/newsite/index.html CSS he http://zeroonedesign.com/beta/newsite/style.css Now look at it first in Firefox (the desired effect) and then in IE. IE seems to be incapable of understanding this particular piece of the code Code:
#menu {padding-top:140px;text-align:left;padding-left:38px;}
#menu ul{margin:0px;}
#menu ul li{display:inline;margin-right:10px;padding:5px 7px 5px 7px;color:#fff;}
#menu ul li a{color:#fff;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;}
#menu ul li a:hover{color:#fff;font-size:10pt;border-bottom:3px solid #fff;}
#menu ul li a.selected{color:#f88000;font-size:10pt;border-bottom:2px solid #f88000;}
Ideas? Help? I know the box model is different for IE than it is for FF but I've tried the box model hack and it doesn't seem to do anything. the contentWrapper div section collapse prematurely in mozilla, but displays fine in IE. Anyone know why? http://www.mgan.net/work/10-06-04/layout1.html Is there a css rule I don't understand in firefox that IE is overlooking? Hi I have site where I am forced to set my content div <div id="content"> min-height with jquery on each page.Site Link This is because the content div keeps collapsing and ignoring the content it has. Can someone teach me how to fix this please. |
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