CSS - Designing With Layer Insted Of Tables

I am curious to know what many of you think about the design consideration for 800 x 600. I am about to start a major project and am considering going to a fixed width of 1024 instead of my current default of 770. As I see it only about 1 of 10 use 800 x 600, and I think that will go down in the not too distant future. I wouln't mind learing how to scale a site so it looks good in any resolution but as I understand it you can not scale images that many of my site layouts depend on. Tom

Sorry if I'm being repetitive, this has been discussed before, but still there is something preventing me from making CSS boxes behave properly.

Everything has to do with stopping <TABLE> and starting <CSS>-based thinking. I mean, there shouldn't be so much magic and wonderdust as I trick myself into believe.

My problem is very simple;

I'd like the design to do the following:
[wrapper: full width, 5px padding all over]
[variable size image container, 2 px padding all over, staying on the left at all times]
[variable size text container, staying on the right at all times, stretching full width so it touches the image container]

Here's an example of the design:
Code:

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|      (wrapper)       |
||------||------------||
||image || text       ||
||------||------------||
------------------------

I thought I had it made when I read that you basically can look at creating a table based design as using a combination of DIV's and SPAN's, havind the DIV's being looked at as rows and SPAN's as columns/cells. But for some reason I can't seem to get the full grip out of it.

I've had *some* success with this, but I'm having horrible problems with making the text get to the top left of the container. It *always* stays at bottom left, no matter how I adjust my DIV's, SPAN's or properties of those. I can't seem to make the boxes have any actual "space"; when I add margin properties to either box, I can't locate it, it's as if the container isn't there. I can get the wrapper to behace though.

While I'm at it, is there some good, solid, documentation of how the boxes work and interact? I've read *alot* of different articles, looked at w3c, checked other peoples code (which actually have teached me the most), but I'd like to have some kind of resource that gives me the knowledge of "box modelling" to such an extent that I should be able to solve in not all but most problems, like this simple one.

Thanks for taking time to read through all this. I know it won't become a FAQ or rooted topic, but I'm hoping perhaps someone with the same problem as I have will benefit from this.

Hi, Is it possible to make 3 different sites depending on the client browser medium? I have a flash site, that needs to be presented non-flash for the iphone, and another non-Flash site for the ipad.

Is there a way CSS can detect these 3 different browser mediums?

If so, then how?

thanks
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Hi

I am trying to learn how to design and develop a website that has consistent behavior across browsers, browser window size and screen resolution.

What are the industry best practices for designing and developing such websites.

Your help is appreciated

Thanks

I've been re-designing my site in valid XHTML 1.1 and CSS, and I've hit a bit of a problem....

Everything works perfectly in Firefox, but IE isn't liking things at all. The navbar at the left should stretch all the way to the bottom image, but it isnt having it. I've tried messing with it for about an hour now, and can't fix it....

The page can be found at URL and the stylesheet at URL

Oh, and I know the colours are all messed up, I'll fix that later :P

Edit: Fixed bbCode

I need to position a 200px high by 300px wide layer in the center of the page.

does anyone know a simple way to do this, i have thought about using JS to calculate the width of the page, take off the 200px, and halve it, but that seems like overkill, isnt there a simple CSS command?

Thanks

Xaphan

http://balmarketing.com/new/

I think actually the trouble lies in my content layer not centering itself correctly and its being pushed to the right by the nav layer. It looks semi what I want it to look like in FF but not in IE. Any suggestions on how I can fix this?

Hi Guys,

Basically I'm having trouble with getting the 'Content' div layer to wrap around the switching div layers.

The grey background colour represents the 'Content' div layer which wraps around the button menu OK but doesn't wrap around the layers which switch.

The bodged way of doing it is to have a fixed height but then it leaves a blank area underneath the divs that are short of text...If you get what I mean?

Code:

<div id="content_test">
	<div id="rollovercontentwrapper">

		<div id="tabwrapper">
			<ul id="tabmenu">
				<li><p><a href="#" onClick="javascript:showTabContentOne('TabContentOne')">Summary</p></a></li>
				<li><p><a href="#" onClick="javascript:showTabContentTwo('TabContentTwo')">Benefits</p></a></li>
			</ul><!--TABMENU-->
		</div><!--TABWRAPPER-->

		<div id="TabContentOne" class="TabContentOne" style="visibility: hidden">
						<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Integer lacus risus, 
						porttitor non aliquam non, scelerisque vitae turpis. Duis venenatis nisl lectus, 
						et aliquam eros. Nam commodo, ligula sed ultrices vehicula, justo augue ultricies 
						urna, sed rhoncus nisi dui sed risus. Nullam commodo risus nec justo sagittis eu 
						cursus nisi interdum.</p>
						<br>
						<p>In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Sed vulputate auctor cursus. Morbi ac 
						ullamcorper dui. In sem velit, pulvinar sit amet cursus id, vulputate fringilla 
						erat. Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices posuere 
						cubilia Curae; Sed lorem urna, imperdiet eget fringilla eget, molestie nec justo. 
						Fusce diam nulla, fringilla a sodales at, rhoncus vitae massa. Donec tincidunt, 
						leo quis fermentum venenatis, purus elit tincidunt ipsum, vitae sollicitudin nulla 
						orci nec arcu. Sed non neque neque, ac pharetra lectus. Donec a massa mauris. Sed 
						vel magna eget tellus commodo placerat in quis risus. Aenean velit lectus, aliquam 
						quis dictum ac, pellentesque sed diam.</p>
		</div><!--TabContentOne-->
		<div id="TabContentTwo" class="TabContentTwo" style="visibility: hidden">
						<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Integer lacus risus, 
						porttitor non aliquam non, scelerisque vitae turpis. Duis venenatis nisl lectus, 
						et aliquam eros. Nam commodo, ligula sed ultrices vehicula, justo augue ultricies 
						urna, sed rhoncus nisi dui sed risus. Nullam commodo risus nec justo sagittis eu 
						cursus nisi interdum.</p>
		</div><!--TabContentTwo-->

	</div><!--ROLLOVERCONTENTWRAPPER-->
</div>	<!----CONTENT_TEST---->

<div id="onebyone" style="visibility:hidden;">
<img src="onebyonepixel.gif" onLoad="javascript:showTabContentOne('TabContentOne')" width="1" height="1">
</div>

Code:

div#rollovercontentwrapper {
	float: left;
	width: 630px;
	background-color: #E9E9E8
}

div#tabwrapper {
	width: 630px;
}

ul#tabmenu {
	display: block;
	float: left;
	width: 630px;
	list-style-type: none;
	border-bottom: 1px solid #0048A7;
}

ul#tabmenu li {
	display: block;
	float: left;
	background-color: #E9E9E8;
}

ul#tabmenu li a {
	display: block;
	float: left;
	padding: 10px;
	background-color: #E9E9E8;
	border-top: 1px dashed #0048A7;
	border-right: 1px dashed #0048A7;
}

ul#tabmenu li a:focus {
	display: block;
	float: left;
	padding: 10px;
	background-color: #3383CD;
	border-top: 1px dashed #0048A7;
	border-right: 1px dashed #0048A7;
}

#TabContentOne {
	float: left;
	position: absolute;
	top: 350px;
	width: 628px;
	z-index: 1;
	padding-top: 10px;
	padding-bottom: 10px;
}

#TabContentTwo {
	float: left;
	position: absolute;
	top: 350px;
	width: 628px;
	z-index: 1;
	padding-top: 10px;
	padding-bottom: 10px;
}

div#onebyone {
	float: left;
}

div#content_test {
	float: left;
	width: 900px;
	padding: 20px;
	background-color: #CCCCCC;
}

Can anybody help me out on this?

Many thanks,

Mark

Hi!

Does anybody have some great link or book advice about all the properties of the DIV and/or LAYER - tags? Inspiring examples with javascript to this are also welcome. I will use it to build advanced layer functionality.

Regards
Bjorn

Well, I can't post links so this is going to be hard as hell to type out. I have a layer within that page that I want in a certain position, yet when I move the width of my browser the layer does not stay where I want it. Obviousely, this does not make any sense because its something you have to see.

I checked the rules for the forums and I can't find where it states anything about URLs, if someone would be so kind to show me, I'd appericiate it.


Not that it matters witout seeing it on the page but my code for this layer is:

Code:

<div id="Layer1" style="position:absolute; left:848px; top:85px; width:118px; height:167px; z-index:1">    
	  <div class="mltop">schedule +4hrs </div>
	  <p>00:00 - Music <br>
	    01:00 - Music <br>
	    02:00 - Music <br>
	  03:00 - <a href="">BRR</a></p>
	  <p><b>Current time: 00:00</b><br>
	    Times in CST/CDT
	    <br>
      </p>
	</div>

I want to take a layer and center on a page. In other words if I have the margins top = 0 and left=0 then inside the main layer which takes into account the entire page I want it to be centered on the page. At present I can center a table on a page but not a layer???? how to do this? thanks

Hello All,

Im currently stuck trying to get a layer on top of a layer. The image below shows the problem.

img68.imageshack.us/img68/5579/picture3cl2.png

And here is a link to a code version:

thenpcs.com/beta/

Any help greatfully appreciated!