CSS - Margins. When Is A Pixel Not A Pixel?

Hey--

Working on a new site, I've got 99.9% of it finished and working, but a menu is displaying one pixel higher in Safari (Mac and PC) than any other browser.

www.inkyfever.com/customer/animotion/

The menu is in the orange bar at the top. It's created with an unordered list. You can view source to check the code.

HELP!

EDIT: Okay, I've got it to mostly work by changing some padding, but hovering over any other orange links, the hover color doesn't quite fill the space vertially. ONE pixel short at the bottom. Ideas?

:grimey

The site http://glish.com/css/7.asp is showing me how to make tabls in css. I get it but their example which has a workour I don't get doesn;t work either.... look at the top right corner.

I'm trying to learn but how can you with erroneous code?

The code is all exposed on their page in the scroll down bit down the page a bit.

Hello, I am developing a site for a client and originally I had the template stretching 100% height in the browser which worked for both IE and FF. The problem now is that I have integrated a shopping cart into the template and because of the system of the cart, it breaks the 100% rule of height. So now I have began to use the idea of creating a -y tiling centered bg image.

The problem is that when I align the image to meet the edges of the template, the alignment is different between IE and FF by 1 pixel!!! Its so frustrating! Has anyone run across this issue before? I ran a quick search for this in google but didnt find anything helpful, only things with regular images.

If anyone has a solution for this, it would be great! Thanks!

Rproctor

Hey all.

I'm just starting out in web design. To make things even more complicated, I'm using CSS for my first ever website.

So I'm building this website from scratch, using online tutorials and such. But I'm running into a problem. On a PC, everything displays perfectly in IE and Firefox. But on a Mac, the nav bar is stretched with dead space after the last list item. This is the same in Safari, Firefox, and IE for Mac.

Would you guys give it a look and maybe help me around the issue? What I'd like is no dead space after the last list item on any computer, (if you're looking on a PC, it appears correct) and I want a fixed width.

Site
CSS

Thanks.

Edit: Link removed...

All the pages are the same...

Whenever the column on the left ends, the text moves left a few pixels. Anyone know how to prevent this from happening?

Thanks in advance!

Hi all,

I'm pretty anal about the layouts I make.. especially when it comes to my own site. This is the first time I have really attempted designing to validate within the strict doctype. The only thing is the layout I am trying to get to work requires A LOT of layers, and a lot of them need to line up with eachother. I am running in to problems because some layers are pushed down further than others on the page. The difference is noticeable (10 or 15 pixels) when I change from Firefox to Explorer. Is there anyway around this, am I missing something here? My page is uploaded at http://www.studioflow.net/display.html
and my css file is here http://www.studioflow.net/sfglobal.css
Do I need to just abandon my quest for pixel perfect alignment?

Thanks,

alan

Hello,

Code:

<table border="1">
<tr>
<td class="norightborder">
Two cells,
</td>
<td class="noleftborder">
but no borders between them.
</td>
</tr>
</table>

Code:

.noleftborder {
	border-left-style: none;	
}
.norightborder {
	border-right-style: none;	
}

I notice a pixel gap between the two cells and it's annoying me.

How do I get rid of it?

Thanks

Rogier

Hi there,

I am back with another browser issue with css. When I set the position from the top on the center logo it shows correctly at top: 15px in IE but not in Navigator. To make it ok in Navigator I have to put it at 17px and then its off in IE.
I would love some help as i have a similar problem occuring in another site which I have also been trying to solve.
Here is the link: http://www.paintyourplace.com/emerald/

Here is the CSS:

body{
font-family: verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
padding: 0px;
font-size:12px;
color: black;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
scrollbar-arrow-color:#003366;
scrollbar-face-color:#0C5331;
scrollbar-shadow-color: #9FB304;
scrollbar-highlight-color: #FFFFFF;
scrollbar-track-color: #CCCCCC;

}


#menuList {
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
}

#menuList ul {
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
}

#menuList li {
display: inline;
list-style: none;
}

a.actuator {
background-color: transparent;
color: #000;
font-size: 12px;
margin: 0px;
padding: 3px 6px;
text-decoration: none;
}

a.actuator:hover {

color: #990000;
}


.menu {
color: #000;
background-color: #EEE;
border: 1px solid #CCC;
position: absolute;
visibility: hidden;
}

.menu li a {
background-color: #EEE;
color: #000;
display: block;
font-size: 12px;
line-height: 1.75em;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px 10px;
text-decoration: none;
}

.menu li a:hover {
background-color: #0C5331;
color: #EEE;
}

span.key {
text-decoration: underline;
}

#homeMenu { width: 120px; }
#aboutMenu { width: 120px; }
#productsMenu { width: 120px; }
#careersMenu { width: 120px; }
#customerMenu { width: 120px; }
#healthcareMenu { width: 120px; }
#contactMenu { width: 120px; }

a{
color:#990000;
font-weight:normal;
text-decoration:none;
}
a:visited{
color:#005940
}
a:hover{
color:#990000;
text-decoration:underline;
}



#mainMenu {

text-align: center;
color: #000;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px 0px 2px 20px;
}

DIV.jill_toplogo{
align: left;
}

DIV.jill_leftgreen{
top: 75px;
background-color: #0C5331;
height: 95px;
position:absolute;
width: 50%;
}
DIV.jill_rightblue{
left: 50%;
top: 75px;
background-color: #254E7C;
height: 95px;
position:absolute;
width: 50%;
}

DIV.jill_centered_logo{
position:relative;
text-align: center;
top: 15px;


}
DIV.jill_greyback{
padding-top: 112px;
background-color: #E1E5E0;
position: absolute;
top: 60px;

width: 100%;
text-align: center;
font-size: 12px;


}

DIV.mainBox {
position: absolute;
top: 230px;
font-family: verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;
font-size:12px;
left: 57px;
width: 80%;

}
#bottomText{
padding: 0px;
margin-top: 20px;
margin-bottom: 10px;
margin-right: 20%;
margin-left: 20%;
background: none;
border: none;
border-top: none;
text-align:center;
font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 10px;
color: #ccc;
}

THANKS!!!!

I searched the forum before posting but didn't find anything. This is a fairly straight-forward problem, but it's one that I can't find a solution to.

The site I'm working on is centered in the window. The body has a 3600x1 pixel background image repeating vertically that is also centered in the window. The layout of the site depends on this background being in the right place.

In every browser I've tested so far, the site layout lines up perfectly with the background image, and all is good. But in Firefox 1.5 and Firefox 2.0 (both on Mac), the centered container div sits one pixel to the right of where it should be. Is this a known bug with Firefox?

I'm including the code for the body tag and the container div, even though a quick glance will show that it's pretty standard stuff:

Code:

body {
font: 12px/1.5 "Lucida Grande", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
color: #363636;
background: url(body_bg.gif) top center repeat-y white;
text-align: center;
}

#container {
margin: 0 auto;
width: 720px;
text-align: left;
}

Any help at all would be terrific. Thanks.

Note: I changed the title of this post in the hopes someone will help me.

please delete post...problem resolved.

Hi all,

Really strange problem with IE (as usual). I've done an English site with a typical left and main content structure, as you can see on:
http://www.ntcjapan.com/index2.php

The English site is left-aligned, and works fine.

Now I'm doing an Arabic version and the site needs to be center aligned. Keeping things really simple, please see the following site:

http://ntcjapan.com/languages/arabic/english.html

The HTML:

Code:

<div id="container">

	<div id="left">
		<!-- NAVIGATION -->
		test right section
	</div>

	<div id="main">
		test main section
	</div>

	<div class="spacer_small">&nbsp;</div>
</div>

The CSS:
Code:

	#container { 
		margin: 0 auto;
 		text-align: left;
 		width: 764px;
		background: url(../images/0_bg_center.gif) repeat-y;
    		min-height: 100%;
    		height: auto;
	}

	#main {
		width: 590px;
		padding-top: 115px;
		padding-left: 9px;
		background: url(../../../images/0_logo.gif) no-repeat;
		float: left;
		margin: 0px 0px 0px 1px;
	}


	/* Hack for IE, Reset to 100% height */
	* html #container {
		height: 100%;
	}
	/* End IE Hack */


	#left { 
		width: 158px;
		float: right;
	}

Ok, you can ignore the height stuff because that works on the original English site. The problem is the width/margin on IE. The "left" section is actually now floating right, and is meant to be the navigation.

The "container" section is 100% height and provides those background orange and grey vertical lines which I need.

The "main" section has a margin-left of 1px, because I want it to be right next to the first orange line.

On FIREFOX, this looks fine, you can see the background NTC logo actually touching the orange left line, hence we know it is using the margin-left: 1px correct.

IE however, seems to add a bit of space and it looks as if I specified a margin-left: 2px for IE! Basically, in IE, the logo never 'touches' the orange line.

This causes lots of problems when inserting content and trying to fit the exact width of the container, since IE seems to use one extra pixel than Firefox,and overflows if I try to use the exact width (764px) of the container.

A demonstration of the problem on IE:
http://ntcjapan.com/languages/arabic/ieprob.gif

Any help, please??

As always, I am developing in Firefox and correcting for IE.

I have a strange problem I am unable to correct:

I am getting a 2 pixel gap in the bottom of these images in I.E. 6, but they line up perfectly in Firefox.(See attached image) The only way I can get it to line up in IE 6 is to increase the image size by 2px, but it then overlaps in Firefox.

Here is my corrosponding CSS:

Code:

ul.links {
    list-style-type: none;
    margin: 0px;
    padding: 0px;
}

ul.links li {
    background: #d4d4d4 url(/images/tabbg.gif) scroll top center repeat-y;
    color: inherit;    
    display: inline;
    margin: 0px;
    padding: 0px;
}

ul.links li.current {
    background: #d4d4d4 url(/images/currbg.gif) scroll top center repeat-y;
    color: inherit;
    display: inline;
    margin: 0px;
    padding: 0px;
}

Greetings,

I am just starting CSS Design and am having a problem with my footer div background image moving 1 pixel to the right (messing up background image sync to above div) when the browser window is expanded to over 900pixels (which is min width of webpage)

This happens in IE6/7 and not FF

Any help would be great;

http:// www. beavershanghai .com

A margin-top:10px is the equivalent of margin-top:11px on IE8 (compatibility mode). I actually took a screenshot and counted the number of pixels in Photoshop.

This gives me a hell load of frustration because I want to align my comment form's submit button with the bottom of my textarea. For an example look at this (http://www.deliciousdays.com/archives/2009/10/07/stuffed-but-happy/#comments) scroll all the way down.

I dunno how deliciousdays did it but they managed to get the button aligned with the textarea in both Firefox and IE. Anybody can help?

I'm wondering if it's possible to combine fixed pixel width borders and percentage width?

I know I can do this...
Code:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE> New Document </TITLE>
<style>
	.div1
	{
		float: left;
		width: 50%;
		background: green;
	}
	
	.div2
	{
		float: left;
		width: 48%;
		background: red;
		padding: 1%;
	}
</style>
</HEAD>

<BODY>
	<div class='div1'>
		test
	</div>
	<div class='div2'>
		test
	</div>
</BODY>
</HTML>

But what I'd like to be able to do is specify a padding of 10px on div2 without breaking the layout. Is this possible with the w3c box model?