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CSS - Css Within Multiple Tables: Ns Performance Problems
due to design guidelines i have 3 tables around my content. this content consists of apx 100 rows with apx 8-10 cols. each of these seperate properties which i define via my file styles.css.
everything looks great/correct. the problem is that in netscape it takes AGES to render and display (not to load the data) the page. simplified my page may look like this: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica">code:</font><HR><pre>=== CORPORATE DESIGN-STUFF === <table><tr><td> <table><tr><td> <table><tr><td> --- MY CONTENT --- <table> <tr class="row1color"> <td class="col1properties">Text</td><td class="col2properties">Text</td> etc... </tr> [followed by 100 rows with 8 cols each] </table> --- /MY CONTENT --- </td></tr></table> </td></tr></table> </td></tr></table> === /CORPORATE DESIGN-STUFF ===[/code] if i remove the link to the css file the page loads acceptably fast, the same when i delete the content of the file. this makes me think it's not directly linked to NS's problems with nested tables. looks more like NS not liking CSS-statements deep in nested tables... took to an extreme with a table with 6000 cells: it took IE 2 secs to display the page, NS needed 180 (!!!). any hints towards why this effect might occur are very appreciated. [This message has been edited by RedFox (edited November 02, 2000).] [This message has been edited by RedFox (edited November 02, 2000).] Similar TutorialsI know there are many benifits to moving from tables to css and div's and after trying to convert one page I have several question that i'm hopeing someone can help with. If everything goes well I will have about 100 pages to convert. Here is the code so far: <div position="float: left"> <span class="contentHeader">Direct Basics</span><br> <p><span class="h2"> Access Direct</span> </p> <p><span class="livetext">To access Direct: </span></P> <span class="livetext"> <ol> <li>On the Portal home page, you can either:<br> <p style="text-indent: 2em;"> Click the Tool Quicklink for <b>Assetwise Direct</b> </p> <p style="text-indent: 10em;"> or<br> <p style="text-indent: 2em;"> Click the <b>EVALUATE LOANS</b> menu to select <b>Assetwise Direct</b><br> </li> </ol> </span> <p class="SmallText"> <span class="livetext"> <ol start="2"> <li>When the security screen appears, enter your...<br> <p style="text-indent: 3em;"> user name <p style="text-indent: 4em;"> and password<br> <p style="text-indent: 5em;"> and click <b>OK</b><br> <br> Note: The user name and password fields are case sensitive.</li> </ol></span> </p> </div> <div style="position: absolute; left: 450px; top: 115px"><a target="_blank" href="images/access_awd.jpg"> <img border="0" src="images/access_awd_small.jpg" xthumbnail-orig-image="images/access_awd.jpg" width="100" height="60"></a> <br> <div style="text-align=center;"> <span class=reporttext> <a href="images/access_awd.jpg" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: none"> click to enlarge </a> </span> </div> </div> <div style="position: absolute; left: 450px; top: 325px"> <a target="blank" href="images/password_box.jpg"> <img border="0" src="images/password_box_small.jpg" xthumbnail-orig-image="images/password_box.jpg" width="100" height="63"></a><br> <div style="text-align=center"><span class=reporttext> <a href="images/password_box.jpg" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: none"> click to enlarge </a> </span> </div> </div> <p class=livetext style="position: absolute; float: left; left: 515px; top: 500px"> <a href="#" onClick="window.history.back(); return false;">Back</a> </p> THe actual page will have a menu on the left and top and this code will be in the main part of the screen. Now, my problem's with the code, other than I have the css in the file (will move to .css file later), a i'm not sure if ive used the best way for positioning images or codeing style for that matter, and when text is resized in a browser it will overlap the images, is there a way around that? Once i'm done with this page someone else (who is comfortable with tables and has limited web design experience) will be doing updates in FrontPage. For that would it be easier for them to just stick with tables? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hi, I have used bottom-border: 1 on my links and the problem I am having is making sure that these borders are not displayed on images which have <a "somelink"> </a> wrapped around them. I have used #content a > img { border: 0; } and this seems to have solved the problem however when I have an image link nested into a table the border reappears and I have tried everything to get it to remove it. If anyone else knows why it reappears when nested in tables please let me know how I can fix it. Regards, Graham This was formerly another post. Making progress and almost there. I have a website under develepoment... My site I have 4 problems. 1. and most important in IE but not in FF the bgimage is showing through the margin or padding, im not sure which of the last image being displayed.. How do I get that out of there. Comes across as a red line after my top gutter. 2. The banner image and gutter images seem to move over to the right by 1px in both browsers. 3. How do i get the left container div to go all the way down the page. 4. How do i get the secondary navigation in the footer to align with the centercontent div and the rightcontent div but not the left content div. any help would be appreciated... my layout is a left border, main content, then right border, all vertical columns. here is their code: Code:
.left {
background-image: url('images/obj_left.gif');
background-repeat:repeat-y;
width:28px;
margin:0px;
}
.maintable {
width: 100%;
background-color:#FFFFFF;
border-left:3px solid black;
border-right:3px solid black;
}
.right {
background-image: url('images/obj_right.gif');
background-repeat:repeat-y;
width:28px;
margin:0px;
}
i also float them left, so imagine that is there. so i have code like this <div class='left floatleft'></div> <div class='maintable floatleft'></div> <div class='right floatleft'></div> but why cant i see the images in right and left? Hi. I am a relative CSS newbie working on a new layout. My intended format is:
A sidebar (a div with no visible border) containing a set of smaller divs.
A main div for the content on the right.
About 35 px of space between the sidebar div and the main div.
Yet, for some reason I am unable to force the sidebar and main div to come together in the center with space between them. Using float: only seems to make them both hug the side of the page. My HTML code is: Code: <div class="sidebar">
<div class="cv">
<font size="3"><b><center>
Current Version Info
</center></b></font>
</div>
<div class="ver">
<center>
Version:
<br/>
<b>0.0.0</b>
</center>
</div>
<div class="rel">
<center>
Released:
<br/>
<b>00/00/00</b>
</center>
</div>
<div class="nav">
</div>
</div>
<div class="main">
<center>
Lorum ipsum
</center>
</div>
The relevant CSS code is: Code: div.sidebar {
width: 202px;
float: left;
border: 0px solid #00CC99;
}
div.cv {
width: 200px;
border: 1px solid #00CC99;
background-color: rgb(33,33,33)
}
div.ver {
width: 99px;
border: 1px solid #00CC99;
float: left;
background-color: rgb(33,33,33)
}
div.rel {
width: 99px;
border: 1px solid #00CC99;
float: right;
background-color: rgb(33,33,33)
}
div.nav {
margin-top: 30px;
width: 200px;
height: 100px;
border: 1px solid #00CC99;
background-color: rgb(33,33,33)
}
div.main {
width: 500px;
border: 1px solid #00CC99;
background-color: rgb(33,33,33);
float: right;
}
In particular, div.main and div.sidebar are the ones giving me trouble. What would you recommend? Edit: And for extra bonus points, can you tell me how to make another div go below everything, no matter how long the sidebar or main div is? Right now anything I add seems to hover behind the main div rather than render below it. My Question is... When I put an image in a stylesheet, when does it get loaded? Does it get loaded when the style sheet gets loaded or does it get loaded only if I'm using the style on the page that has the image? The reason I ask... I have a lot of images in my style sheet, and I'm concerned about performance. Only some of the images in the style sheet are used on each page, but never all of them at once. I'm wondering if I should split up my style sheet into smaller style sheets, so that I will never be loading images for a page that I'm not going to be using on that page. (this would require the inclusion of 2 smaller style sheets on each page instead of 1 big style sheet). My style sheet is over 200 kb right now, and that does not include the image file sizes. Please advise. I'm not confident enough with CSS to just use it, so I'm mixing it with some tables too. I want a layout with two tables next to each at the top and then another below. The two at the top are working fine, but the one below keeps jumping back up to the top. I've managed to get an ugly fix by putting in a load of <br> but this doesn't work in IE7 (unless I add a lot more, pushing the content way down in other browsers) and isn't much of a solution. The other problem I have is that I want to have the majority of my page with a white background, but to get a surrounding border I've set the body background to be a colour and then placed a div around all the content. I want this div to be the size of the page and so set it's height to 100%, but this makes it too small. Not sure why. Here is my code for my page and CSS. If anyone can help I'd be most grateful. Code: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title></title>
<link href="incl/default.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function navon(num) {
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.backgroundColor = '#CDEB8B';
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingTop = '0px'
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingBottom = '0px';
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderTopWidth = '10px';
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderBottomWidth = '10px';
}
function navoff(num) {
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.backgroundColor = '#C3D9FF';
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingTop = '8px'
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingBottom = '8px';
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderTopWidth = '2px';
document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderBottomWidth = '2px';
}
//-->
</script>
</head>
<body>
<div class="main">
<table width="29%" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" align="left">
<tr>
<td><img src="" alt="" width="230" height="80" border="0" /></td>
</tr>
</table>
<table width="70%" height="60px" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" align="right">
<tr>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav1" onmouseover="navon('1')" onmouseout="navoff('1')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav2" onmouseover="navon('2')" onmouseout="navoff('2')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav3" onmouseover="navon('3')" onmouseout="navoff('3')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav4" onmouseover="navon('4')" onmouseout="navoff('4')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav5" onmouseover="navon('5')" onmouseout="navoff('5')">link</td>
</tr>
</table>
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" align="center">
<tr>
<td width="70%">
some content
</td>
<td width="30%">
some more content
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
</body>
</html>
Code:
@charset "utf-8";
/* CSS Document */
body {
padding-right: 4%;
padding-left: 4%;
padding-top: 30px;
padding-bottom: 30px;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 14px;
letter-spacing: 0.1em;
color: #000000;
background-color: #EEEEEE;
}
a:link {
color: #000000;
text-decoration: none;
}
a:visited {
color: #000000;
text-decoration: none;
}
a:active {
color: #000000;
text-decoration: none;
}
a:hover {
color: #000000;
text-decoration: underline;
}
.main {
background:#FFFFFF;
border: 10px solid #36393D;
width: 89%;
padding: 5%;
}
.nav {
padding: 8px;
background-color: #C3D9FF;
vertical-align: middle;
text-align: center;
font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 24px;
color: #36393D;
cursor:pointer;
border: 2px solid #36393D;
}
I am developing a web site, panopticinsight dot com. The header/banner looks fine in Firefox. In IE7 and Opera, the H2 subtitle is left aligned over the globe image. In IE6 content jumps outside of container. Anyone know why there is a shift, and what I can do about it? Style sheet code pasted below: Code: body {
width:800px;
font:0.83em/1.4em Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif;
color:#CBD4E3;
background:#000 url(images/body_bg.gif) repeat-y top center;
letter-spacing:1px;
margin:0 auto;
}
h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
font-family:"Times New Roman", Times, serif;
font-style:italic;
font-weight:bold;
color:#e9df55;
background-color:#000;
}
h2 {
font-size:2em;
}
h3 {
font-size:1.5em;
}
h4 {
font-size:1.25em;
}
a:link {
color:#8090AC;
text-decoration:none;
}
a:visited {
color:#B17F6C;
text-decoration:none;
}
a:hover {
color:#E9DF55;
text-decoration:underline;
}
a:active {
color:#E9DF55;
text-decoration:none;
}
#container {
width:760px;
margin:0 auto;
}
#header {
height:200px;
width:760px;
margin:0;
padding:0;
}
#banner {
height:100%;
width:100%;
color:#cbd4e3;
background:#000 url(images/header_bg.jpg) no-repeat top left;
margin:0 auto;
padding:0;
}
#banner h1 {
font-size:400%;
color:#CBD4E3;
background-color:transparent;
float:left;
display:inline;
margin:0;
padding:70px 0 70px 280px;
}
#banner h2 {
font-size: 12pt;
color: #e9df55;
background-color:transparent;
text-indent: 200pt;
vertical-align: text-bottom;
}
navigate{
color : #105BAC;
background-color : transparent;
height : 20px;
font-size: 100%;
border-top : 1px solid #999999;
}
#navigate ul {
list-style-type: none;
margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 150px;
margin-right: 0px;
padding: 2px 0 0 0;
}
#navigate ul li {
display: inline;
}
td {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
th {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
p {
font-size: 14px;
color: #FFFFFF;
left: 50px;
right: 50px;
}
#main {
width: 660px;
padding-right: 50px;
padding-left: 50px;
}
#footer {
font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
font-size: 9px;
color: #666666;
height: 100px;
width: 760px;
vertical-align: text-bottom;
text-align: center;
}
#SplashImage {
float: left;
}
.image-left {
clear: none;
margin-bottom: 10px;
float: left;
margin-right: 20px;
margin-left: 10px;
}
.image-right {
clear: none;
margin-bottom: 10px;
margin-left: 10px;
float: right;
}
Does anyone know of some good tutorials on how to use CSS rather than tables? If so, could you providea link. Thanks a lot. andrew **FIXED** Ok moving my site from tables to CSS in my spare time at work but im having some difficulty with height attr. Click me The Left and right bars - I would like them to go all the way to the bottom of the page. If anyone can help - please let me know! Thanks! Edit: Got it to work in Firefox just fine - but IE6 is still giving me problems. Edit #2: *sigh* needed to set body to 100% - man IE is bass-ackwards. For some reason the following HTML & CSS code do not render the same result as the code listed below it: CSS - Attached Style sheet Code:
td.style1{
background-color: #FFFFFF;
border-top: 1px solid #AAAAAA;
border-right: 1px solid #000000;
border-bottom: 1px solid #000000;
border-left: 1px solid #AAAAAA;
}
HTML Code Code:
<table>
<tr>
<td class="style1">Some content to display</td>
</tr>
</table>
HTML (Intended display) Code:
<table>
<tr>
<td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAAAAA; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">Some content to display</td>
</tr>
</table>
Why wouldn't any browser follow the CSS in the stylesheet? Hi everyone, Dont actually know if this is possible (my css knowledge is way not what it should be!) Can I define a whole set of attriblutes for a table (fonts, links, hover links etc etc) and than just use it with <table class = "whatever"> etc and then that table will have all the properties I defined (for only that table, not for the rest of the page) if so how could I go about doing that. Any help is very appreciated! cheers I am looking for advice on replacing a table layout (for form layout) with a CSS design. The purpose is to put together a PHP class that auto-generates forms so that the structure of the forms, is under control of an admin interface though an API. The problem is, that many of the clients that I do work for are very particular about the layout. In other words city, state and zip code must all be on one line, but phone number must have a row to itself, etc., etc.. The form must look exactly like the paper version. Generating a good looking form through an API using a table layout where i have to worry about column spans and so forth, is not something I am looking forward to. I would like to use a CSS layout instead. What is the best way to coax divs to work in the same way table cells and rows do and still deal with any goofy IE CSS quirks? Hey Guys, Hope you are all OK! I've been away abroad for a bit and now its back the the manic life here Has anyone got any good examples of creating pretty tables using CSS? I am ideally looking to to something that maybe has alternate colors on Columns and rows and changing colors where they cross?>!? or something equally as good for looking at data! Any links to examples would be great! Charlie Hello everybody, I am new to the forum and also a newbie to webdesign! I am hoping that somebody wants to help me out as I am trying to put the design of a table and the font used in CSS. I am trying to create a new table class out of: <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" class="tekst6" bgcolor="#E6373D"> (tekst6 = FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: #ffffff; ) How do I do this? Many many thanks in advance for your help! Regards Buzzman Hi, how can I draw these borders to a table using css? Thank you! Hello all, I have a site which I am working on right now and there is going to be text on the right side, and 3 rows on the right which on the top there will be a page banner, on bottom, just a picture, and i want to repeat the background colors on the other side. Kind of confusing to explain but he brandyn.garlic.com/headstart/aboutus.html Thats a page on the site, as you can see, there is a blank spot where I want a background to repeat but the size will obviously vary by the size of the content on the right. If someone could assist me with that, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Brandyn I am curious how important it is to use CSS for tables these days? I am a more of a PHP developer but have been using HTML tables for my applications since I don't do anything fancy on the front-end. I am asking because I am planning to start work on an open source project. While the project itself is intended to be used inhouse for companies and not on the Internet, it would still be nice to know if CSS or HTML tables could affect it in positive or negative ways. Thanks. Hi, I always used tables for my layout but want to change that to CSS. Problem is, I don't know how to get started thinking of the layout in css. I mostly make my pages centered with tables, can I do this with CSS? Does CSS use absolute position ? I was making a site with tables, but want to change that to CSS Know of any good tutorials (for people who used tables before) greets After discovering Css and finally understand it...(still need to get better) I have to ask, when is it good to use a table? what are their main function ? is there things you can do with a table that cannot be done with css? thanks. |
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