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CSS - Padding Vs Width Battle
I have a css problem with windows 2000 OS.
Here's the CSS I have that creates the menu to the left. PHP Code: #nav{ float:left; clear:both; text-align:left; color:#FFFFFF; font-size:10px; height:177px; width:119px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 70px; background: url(http://www.moretanninglotion.com/images/backnav.gif) repeat-y; } The acutal size of the div is supposed to be 189px but the padding isn't getting factored into that when the browerser in windows 2000 renderes it. Does anyone have a hack or an idea of what to do? Below are screen shots of my page. http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=180419 Similar Tutorialshi, i was centering some divs thats 100% width with some padding on both sides, and position absolute it's like 3 layers...the background first is just black, second layer is gray with 10px margin on both sides...next layer has 10 more pixels margin... i see it doesnt work in FF but only IE and Opera...in FF the page gets bigger from the padding HOW can i center these div's instead, i tried without width and now they come very thin...maybe invisable... i also tried with position relative instead of abolute...then some other crazy things happen much respect for the people that helps me with this, its the last bit before my site is ready! I am having what seems like the most elementary problem, yet I cannot figure out what is causing it. I am creating DIVs and nested DIVs to position, contain and format my content. And for some reason, adding padding to a style applied to a given DIV is causing that DIV to expand by the amount of padding added. So for example, if I have a style: Code: #contentBox {
width: 500px;
background-color: blue;
}
And apply it like so: Code: <div id="contentBox">My content goes here</div> It displays as it should: a blue box that is 500px wide. But if I change the style to add padding to the box likee so: Code: #contentBox {
width: 500px;
background-color: blue;
padding: 10px;
}
The blue box is now 520px wide (it added the 10 px of padding on either side to the overall width. I thought that the padding was included in the width of a box so that changing the padding would not change the amount of space occupied by that element. Am I wrong or missing something here? Hi, The site I'm developing is: http://www.jaysonsgroup.com/index2.html It's only a temporary page..some old <table> tags are in there..which don't validate as XHTML. But, I come across many IE 5.0 - related problems for many of my sites..i.e. even those that validate under W3C etc. So I'm just asking generally, does anyone know a site that has fixes for IE 5.0 bugs? My sites seem to be fine on most browsers except this one. In regard to the above link, I had some major problems with IE 5.0 on the middle area (i.e. the images & text under "news" and "login"). The basic HTML code for that: Code: <div class="outerblock"> <div class="news"> <div class="news_left"><div class="news_left_text">My text</div></div> <div class="news_mid"><img src='images/sinhala.gif' width='431' height='286' alt='' /></div> </div> <div class="login_right"> my login table </div> </div> and the CSS for that: Code:
.outerblock {
width: 100%;
overflow:hidden;
display: block;
clear: both;
}
.news {
width: 607px;
overflow:hidden;
float: left;
border-right: 1px solid #C5C5DD;
}
.news_left {
width: 163px;
float: left;
overflow:auto;
display: block;
background: url(../images/home_worldwide.gif) no-repeat;
padding: 110px 0px 0px 0px;
}
.news_left_text {
padding: 0px 0px 0px 5px;
color: #3B537D;
font-family: Verdana, Arial ;
font-size:7.5pt ;
font-weight:normal;
line-height: 13px;
}
.news_mid {
width: 440px;
height: 300px;
float: left;
overflow:hidden;
}
.login_right {
width: 160px;
height: 250px;
padding: 50px 0px 0px 0px;
float: left;
background: #ECEDF2;
border-right: 1px solid #C5C5DD;
border-left: 2px solid #FFFFFF;
overflow: hidden;
}
One problem I had (on IE 5.0) was that the middle 'news_mid' image was overflowing, positioned just below the 'news_left' area. The widths etc are all correct because the container width is 771px. So the entire area should just fit and not overflow (even though in IE 5.0 it did). The 'news' overflow property was AUTO, and I fixed the problem by specifying the overflow:hidden. Likewise, the 'login_right' div was overflowing just below the entire news section, and not to the right as it should have been. Once again I fixed this by specifying overflow:hidden for the outer div. Is it common to use overflow:hidden for things like this? Or is there a more appropriate fix? Another small problem I noticed for IE 5.0 : http://www.jaysonsgroup.com/ie5win.jpg (screenshot). The login_right background does not extend all the way. The height of the div should be 250 pixels + 50pixels on the padding - so 300 pixels total. But IE 5.0 ignores the 50pixels padding and leaves the background with a height of 250px. Thanks very much in advance! Hello all. This is a problem I am encountering on many placing: when I put a width to an certain object (let's say 20px), and I want the text in the object to start and pixel 4px, I can use padding-left:4px; This is no problem in Internet explorer, but Firefox seems to make this object 4px wider. Instead of keeping the object 20 pixels, it becomes 24 pixels. Does anybody know how to get of this bug in Firefox? Hi I have this small problem with one of my sites when viewed in IE *surprise surprise* Let's say I have a div called "foo". I specify a width and set a padding of 10px. Code:
<style>
.foo {
width: 100px;
padding: 10px;
}
</style>
<div class="foo">Bar</div>
Firefox, Opera and Mozilla interprets this as an element which's "text area" is 100px and there's an additional 10px on both sides. So the actual width of the div is 120px. IE doesn't interpret it like that. If I set widht=100px, then the actual width is 100px regardless if I have paddings or not. Now these different types of interprations are causing me a head ache. Is there any "trick" to make the div to be equally wide in all browsers? If not, I guess the only option is to use tables - Kimppa Hello, Is there a way to have padding (say 15px) all around a cell, but allow for expections, like having one div element float:left and align far left against cell border while everything else is inset 15px. ie. Code:
<style>
#menubox {
float:left;
margin-left:15px;
margin-bottom:7px;
}
.main_cell {
padding:15px;
}
</style>
<body>
<table width=600 border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td valign=top class="main_cell"><div id="menubox">table with menu items taht is achored far left against cell wall</div>
Some text that wraps around "menubox" but needs to be padded around cell walls.</td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
Thanks, Rey Hey everyone, I am making a design to kill some time, and I have come across a problem. I have a menu at the top which has no top padding unless I give it padding of 87px. I find this very odd, and it happens in every browser( Firefox 2.0.0.3, Opera 9, IE6-7 ); is it a bug in CSS itself or am I doing something wrong? Here is my code, maybe I am missing something. html4strict Code: Original - html4strict Code <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Script-Type" content="text/javascript"> <title></title> <style type="text/css"> body { background-color: #082567; color: #FFFFFF; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: verdana,tahoma,"Bitstream Vera Sans",arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: justify; } #top-menu { background-image: url( http://secretgeek.net/Gradient.aspx?Direction=H&Length=130&StartColor=082567&EndColor=0C39A1&Format=jpeg ); background-repeat: repeat-x; height: 130px; } #top-menu h1 { float: left; font-weight: bold; letter-spacing: -3px; font-size: 31px; padding: 5px; } #menu { float: right; list-style-type: none; text-align: center; } #menu li { display: inline; } #menu a { background-image: url( http://secretgeek.net/Gradient.aspx?Direction=H&Length=130&StartColor=082567&EndColor=0C39A1&Format=jpeg ); background-repeat: repeat-x; color: #FFFFFF; padding: 50px; } #menu a:hover { background-image: url( http://secretgeek.net/Gradient.aspx?Direction=H&Length=130&StartColor=0C39A1&EndColor=082567&Format=jpeg ); background-repeat: repeat-x; } </style> </head> <body> <div id="top-menu"> <h1>ryon.hunter</h1> <div id="menu"> <ul> <li><a href="">asdf</a></li> <li><a href="">asdf</a></li> <li><a href="">asdf</a></li> <li><a href="">asdf</a></li> <li><a href="">asdf</a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body> </html> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" I validated it and it validates fine, any suggestions? Hi, I have hit the "wall" in my knowledge of CSS while trying to implement a "flex-width-equal-height-sidebar-layout" style of layout as a skin/theme for a message board system and need some help. My trouble occurs when a direct link to the post is used (instead of following the menu navigation system) where the top menu information/links area (the area between the banner and the post) is chopped off... The relevant portion of the CSS seems to be the .col_wrap {margin-top: 10px; border: 0; overflow: hidden; float: left; width: 100%; position: relative; z-index: 10; clear: both;} portion of my CSS because if I take out the overflow:hidden declaration then the menu portion of the skin/theme/layout shows correctly but the sidebar the shows the part which should be hidden at the bottom and the footer completely vanishes from view! My apologies but this is the best I can do without having the ability to post pics or urls which could better explain what is wrong and frankly speaking I don't know how anyone here can help given my inability to show the problem but hopefully someone knows or has run into this problem before or can offer some resources that may be of assistance.... i ve been playing with my page and been trying to modify the width of the page (divs) according to the browswer's width. The problem is i want the navigation menu on left to be fixed width (say 200px) and the center div and the right column to be variable width. Also, i want to set a minimum width , so that the floating divs dont roll below the navigation menu. here s the link to the page. try reducing ur browser windows size . the content div rolls down under theleft nav menu. http://ccc.1asphost.com/pacemakerpr...r/cicuitlab.htm Also , i get wierd result in netscape navigator. please help I have an absolutely positioned <div> containing a block of text. I have not specified a width for this <div>. This <div> is nested within another <div> for which I have specified a width of 200px. So something like: html4strict Code: Original - html4strict Code <div style="position: relative; width: 200px;"> <div style="position: absolute; top: 10px; left: 20px; z-index: 100;"> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Curabitur eu purus a tellus mollis consequat. Phasellus aliquam sapien quis mauris. </div> </div> <div style="position: relative; width: 200px;"> Since the absolutely positioned <div> is not part of the page's normal flow, I would expect that its width would expand according to its contents (and the browser window's boundries). Instead, in Firefox only, the width of the absolutely positioned <div> expands only to the width of its parent - in this case 200px. Am I doing something wrong? or is there a workaround for this? I have seen a design which I find pretty interesting where in the main site is aligned left and fixed width at say 700px wide. Yet the footer seems to span the entire screen. The header also seems to use the entire screen width but that is beign accomplished with the background image, but this footer goes all the way to end of the screen and naturally adjusts itself under all the content. Is there a way to get this effect? Ok. Here's the problem: I have a asp.net 1.x datagrid inside a floated div and I want the datagrid to stretch the width of the div. This div is in the center of two other floated divs. Is there a way to make a table go 100% the width of its container div? Css code: Code:
/* left bar: */
#navBar{
width: 185px;
float: left;
}
/* right bar: */
#rightModulesContainer {
width: 130px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px;
float: right;
}
/* center content: */
#content{
padding: 0px 5px 0px 0px;
margin-top:0;
margin-bottom:0;
margin-left:4px;
margin-right:0px;
float: left;
text-align:left;
/*display: inline;*/
}
/* contained in #container: */
#dataGridContainer{
margin: 0;
padding-bottom: 10px;
min-width:360px;
}
.categoryGridStyle {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 10px;
font-style: normal;
color: #000000;
width:100%;
}
and here is the layout of the divs: Code: <div id="navBar">left navigation bar here (tree view)</div> <div id="rightModulesContainer">right side bar here</div> <div id="content"><div id="dataGridContainer">datagrid here</div></div> Thanks for your help in advance. I've been messing with this for a while - trying to get it to work cross browser is driving me nuts. I've tried placing the divs in containers and floating the containers, I've tried everything I can think of... I'm at the very very very begaining of a table-less design (my first, actually). The problem is, since I have decided to have a non-fixed width, when the browser is minimized, at a certain point the design breaks. See it here (please don't make fun! it's just the start): SiliconSatan.com/test.php I'd like to set a minimum width, probably on the container <div>, so at a certain point it sort of becomes like a fixed width? No smaller than a set width? [EDIT] Also, I have a question about background color mismatch, but it was not quite OT for the CSS forum: http://forums.devshed.com/web-desig...e7t-403266.html Hello, (please also see attached/uploaded style sheet) I'm puzzled why (in the following code) the TEST #2 table renders as required (i.e. 2 rows in 1 column, all with the same cell WIDTH) but the table in TEST #1 seems to render the table cells (i.e. 2 columns in 1 row) without a common cell WIDTH. How can I get all the cells (there are plenty more!) in table TEST #1 to all be exactly the same width (preferably 85px)? Code: <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://thinet/cgi-bin/thinetStyleSheet.css"> TEST #1 <table class="menu" border=1 CELLPADDING=2> <tr> <td class="pinkButtons"><a title="Treats menu" href='http://thinet/theread/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=82'>Treats</a></td> <td class="pinkButtons"><a title="New Starters, Leavers and Transfers" href='http://thinet/theread/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=41'>Joiners etc.</a></td> </tr> </table> <P> TEST #2 <table class="menu" border=1 CELLPADDING=2> <tr><td class="pinkButtons"><a title="Treats menu" href='http://thinet/theread/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=82'>Treats</a></td></tr> <tr><td class="pinkButtons"><a title="New Starters, Leavers and Transfers" href='http://thinet/theread/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=41'>Joiners etc.</a></td></tr> </table> I don't think I've quite grasped the idea of CSS yet?!?! Any help/pointers would be appreciated. Thanks, Andy I have a header div with a background image - it's basically a pair of hands holding a banner - the arms extending to the sides of the window. I'm trying to work it so that, no matter how wide or thin the window, the arms will always extend to the sides. So when you make it smaller, the image will disappear beyond the viewing window. This happens automatically on the right-hand side, but the image is stopping it on the left. Is there a way to set a min-width, which is smaller then the image itself, so that when the window is shrunk the image starts to disappear on either side until it reaches the min-width? I'm trying to get it so the arms will disappear and stop at the hands. Or can anyone suggest an alternative solution? I tried to do it with background and header image, with the arms on the background, so when the top image moves it looks like the arms move with it. That worked great until I started using a patterned background. Full width: |---------------------------------------| |AAAAAAAAHHH BBBBBBBBBBBBBB HHHAAAAAAAAA| |---------------------------------------| Shrunk width: ------- |------------------------| -------- AAAAAAA |AHHH BBBBBBBBBBBBBB HHHA| AAAAAAAA ------- |------------------------| -------- Grey bit outside window edge. | Window side A Arms H Hands B Banner I hope that makes sense. I expect there's an easy solution but I've been trying to figure it out for several hours and could do with someone else's perspective. Thanks. I have a page with an ASP.NET Gridview on it...this Gridview is located in a child DIV inside a parent DIV. That Gridview can often go wider than the parent DIV width set. In IE6 the MAINDIV (Parent DIV) would expand to fit the expanded Gridview contained within the child DIV. In IE7 the DIV will not expand so it overlaps the DIV and looks bad. I want that MainDiv to dynamically grow with the child DIV width, like it did in IE6. Please see my code below. I want the MainDiv to remain ~800px unless it is pushed out further. Thanks for any ideas on a fix for this. Whenever I try min-width it just blows the parent DIV out to 100% screen size. Code:
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head id="Head1" runat="server">
</head>
<body style="width:100%;text-align:center;background-color:#68838B" onload="loadpage();">
<form id="frmMain" runat="server">
<div id="mainDiv" style="position:relative;top:10px;width:800px;height:auto; background-color:white;border:solid 1px #666666">
<div id="contentDiv" style="text-align:left;width:797px; padding:3px 3px 3px 3px;">
<asp:ContentPlaceHolder ID="contentBody" runat="server"></asp:ContentPlaceHolder>
</div>
</div>
</form>
</body>
</html>
I'm writing a modification for a bulletin board. One of the beta testers had a problem with their template... My modification uses a left & right float, with a clearing div at the bottom with a copy right. I know the problem, but my question is, why is it a problem: width="75%" will sometimes, in certain templates, make the right floating table drop down beneath the left floating menu, and it's width is 100%. When I change it to inline styling, style="width: 75%;", it works as it should. I'd really like to know why it's doing this, because I've never ran into this before. Here's a slimmed version of the HTML/CSS: Code: <div id="st0re_wrapper" style="float: left; width: 24%; clear: both;"> <table class="borderwrap iptable" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="2" width="100%"> <tr> <td colspan="" class="maintitle"><p>Your Menu</p></td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left: 5px;" valign="middle"> <div style="margin-left: 5px;"> Sample menu item. </div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <table class="borderwrap iptable" style="float: right;" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="2" width="75%"> <tr> <td colspan="" class="maintitle"><p>Sample</p></td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td valign="top" width="100%"> Sample content. </td> </tr> </table> The used CSS classes a Code:
.ipbtable
{
width: 100%;
}
table.ipbtable,
tr.ipbtable,
td.ipbtable
{
background: transparent;
color: #222;
font-size: 10px;
line-height: 135%;
}
.ipbtable td,
.divpad
{
padding: 5px;
}
.borderwrap,
.borderwrapm
{
background: #edede7;
border: 1px solid #91908B;
color: #55554F;
padding: 0px;
margin: 0px;
}
.borderwrapm
{
margin: 5px;
}
.borderwrap h3,
.maintitle,
.maintitlecollapse
{
background: url(style_images/convention/maintitle.gif);
color: #f6f4ef;
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: -1px;
padding: 7px 7px 7px 12px;
}
.maintitle td
{
color: #EEEDE8;
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: bold;
vertical-align: bottom;
}
.maintitlecollapse
{
border: 1px solid #FFF;
}
.maintitle p,
.maintitlecollapse p,
.formsubtitle p
{
background: transparent !important;
border: 0 !important;
margin: 0 !important;
padding: 0 !important;
}
st0re_wrapper is just an unused id, besides the inline styling. Code: <tr class='firstrow'> <th width=10%><strong>Rank</strong></th> <th width=40%><strong>Site</strong></th> <th width=25%><strong>In</strong></th> <th width=25%><strong>Out</strong></th> </tr> that makes it exactly the way i want, but when i switch to Code: <tr class='firstrow'> <th style='width=10%'><strong>Rank</strong></th> <th style='width=40%'><strong>Site</strong></th> <th style='width=25%'><strong>In</strong></th> <th style='width=25%'><strong>Out</strong></th> </tr> it is sized naturally. Internet Explorer always presents me with a challenge (partial repost). The current issue involves emulating max-width in IE using the technique described by Svend Tofte. http://www.svendtofte.com/code/max_width_in_ie/ The CSS code uses JavaScript expressions and feeds the browser's width to the style. The CSS code follows. * html #Content { height: 1%; width:expression( document.body.clientWidth > (500/12) * parseInt(document.body.currentStyle.fontSize)? "30em": "auto" ); } This implementation resizes and displays the fluid width in IE. But it does not emulate the max-width property. Basically, I need help fixing the max-width implementation on #Content. Since max-width remains a challenge in IE, the min-width remains a greater mystery. Min-width would be nice as well. The page is complex with several wrappers for other IE display issues and JavaScript functionality. Presently, these workarounds and hacks have my head spinning. The page has an overall wrapper #Container. #Content div has the max-width expression. It encases #div.bgWh, so the page could have true transparent round corners. One issue relates to how div.bgWh expands beyond #Content when the client's browser width approaches 260 pixels. These containers serve a purpose; but IE does not deal with their width in a predictable manner. Fortunately, Firefox does not have these issues. These scenarios leave me scratching my head more often than not. Overflow hidden property has worked for me in the past, but did not provide the magic bullet this time around. Please load the page and shrink you browser to around 260 pixels. Keep your eye on the round corners around the main content area. The container, div.bgWh, expands beyond #Content. Please let me know if you see any relevant patterns and if you have any useful suggestions on implementing max-width. Somebody may suggest better approaches to the IE max-width conundrum. http://neville.f2o.org/nifty_TEMP1.html Styles in Question #Content div.bgWh #Container Hi Guys, Consider the following box: PHP Code: <div style=border: 1mm black Solid; width: 148mm; height: 98mm;'> </div> 148mm + 1mm + 1mm = width of 150mm 98mm + 1mm + 1mm = width of 100mm Now why does neither firefox or ie manage to get it? Firefox is about 2mm out and ie is about 3mm out? Any ideas or is it some quirk? Charlie |
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