CSS - More Woes Regarding The Float Attribute

Hi There -

Am converting another design from tables, working with a CMS (Drupal) and an existing CSS / table combination that I didn't write and have no choice about.

Think of the header as having three sections. The top section has logo on the left, search box on the right. Rounded corners. I'm cool with that section.

Then there's a space. Created a div for the space. Love the space. Problems with the space in IE. Will go into it later.

Then there's the next section. Rounded corners. Contains the entire page.

On the left is a pulldown menu, about 1 cm from the top. On the right is a tabbed menu. This menu has flexible height. It needs to be right up against the bottom with the menu below it. Call this section the tabbed menu section.

Third section. Immediately below that is a bar menu like the one Apple's got. Looks like a metal bar with divisions. Call this primary links.

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First, the space between. In IE, when you roll over the bar menu, the space disappears. Won't come back.

Initially, in the second section, floated the pulldown menu left and the tabbed menu right. That worked fine, except that the tabbed menu had a width of 100% and pushed up the pulldown menu so the section was too wide. When I put it to 65%, all hell broke loose with the bar menu in the third section below it and bits of it snuck up into the second section.

If I left it alone, and left the tabbed menu at 100%, when I checked over its container with firebug, it said that it was being affected by the primary links. I figured that out also because the background for that container was a really weird color that I finally found in the background of the navigation id and changed to white. Primary was overlapping it so I couldn't see it with firebug.

So after fiddling with several clearing methods, I gave up and decided to try a table. Table worked fine, and the second section looks good except that there's a one pixel space between the tabbed menu and the bar menu.

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It is my greatest wish right now to be able to float the pulldown to the left, the tabbed menu to the right and have the primary links stay below. I wish I could get the space to work and I wish for a clear understanding of it all so I can then figure out where to put the corners.

Anyone who can enlighten me on this would have my undying gratitude. I've been working on this all day and the deadline's tomorrow.

Code:

<div id="top part"
logo and searchbox
</div>

<div>
that pesky space that disappears in IE when roll over primary links
</div>

<div id=navcontainer>
dropdown and tabbed menu
</div>

<div id="navigation" class="menu> <!-- couldn't find the menu class in the css -->
<div id="primary" class="clear-block">
contains barmenu - very fussy
</div>
</div>

Here's the relevant CSS:

Code:

div#navigation {
  background: #fff url(../images/blue/menu-bg.png) 100% 100% repeat-x;
}


#primary {
  line-height: 30px;
}

#primary ul {
  padding:0;
  margin:0;
  list-style:none;
}

#primary li {
  display:inline;
}

#primary a {
  font-weight:bold;
  display:block;
  float:left;
  padding:0px 14px 0px 14px;
  margin: 0px 1px 0px 0px;
  font-size: 95%;
}

#primary a {
  background-position:0% 0px;
}

#primary a:hover {
  text-decoration: none;
  background-position:0% -42px;
}

#primary a.active {
  background-position: 0% -84px;
}

#primary a {
  background: url(../images/blue/menu-div.png) 100% 0 repeat-y;
  color:#666666;
  font-size: 120%;
  font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
}

#primary a:hover {
  color: 666666;
  background: #B8B8B8;
}

#primary a.active {
  color: 666666;
  background: #B8B8B8;
}

This is my first try at css and i have been at it about a week on and off. I have tried to use examples from here and the o'reilly CSS cookbook. I want to create a two column row of pictures with a caption. I selected DIV as the tool (my css is below). The container DIV looks great. I want the div.float, however, to start a second row when a third picture is added and to continue thereafter with successive two column rows. Unfortunately, each of my rows contain only one picture.

here is my css style sheet. A demonstration of the problem can be seen at:

http://www.yourline-online.com/demo05/?How_to_create_pages
Code:

div.float {
    float: left;
    BORDER-RIGHT: #808080 2px solid;
    PADDING-RIGHT: 2px;
    BORDER-TOP: #808080 2px solid;
    PADDING-LEFT: 2px;
    FONT-WEIGHT: lighter;
    FONT-SIZE: medium;
    PADDING-BOTTOM: 20px;
    MARGIN: 16px 2%;
    BORDER-LEFT: #808080 2px solid;
    COLOR: #000000;
    PADDING-TOP: 2px;
    BORDER-BOTTOM: #808080 2px solid;
    HEIGHT: 200px;
    WIDTH: 150px;
    BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff;
    TEXT-DECORATION: none
  }
  
div.float p {
   text-align: center;
   }
div.container {
  border: 2px dashed #333;
  background-color: #ffe;
  }
div.spacer {
  clear: both;
  }

MY HTML is like this:
Code:

H1>How to create pages</H1>
<P>The headings are used for splitting up the content file. An H1, H2 or H3 heading will dynamically split the document into new pages in the table of contents. An H4-heading is used as a heading within a page. See the following pages...<BR></P>
<P></P>
<DIV class=container>
<DIV class=spacer></DIV>
<DIV class=float><IMG height=100 alt="image 1" src="image1.gif" width=100> 
<P>caption 1</P></DIV>
<DIV class=spacer></DIV>
<DIV class=float><IMG height=100 alt="image 2" src="image2.gif" width=100>
<P>caption 2</P></DIV>
<DIV class=spacer>
<DIV class=float><IMG height=100 alt="image 3" src="http://www.yourline-online.com/demo05/image3.gif" width=100>
<P>caption 3</P></DIV>
<DIV class=spacer></DIV></DIV></DIV>

ok I've been playing with divs and trying to get them working well, but no matter what I do I can never get any site I try and create with divs looking as good as I could do with tables. I've just grown up using tables, and am irritated that that's the way it was because I would like to be using divs. I posted a thread earlier and got some good help, but have since decided on using a different design and can't quite get it the way I want it. so, this is a big ask, but could someone 'convert' this table based site to something that looks the same using divs so I try and relate how divs work to how tables work a bit better? thank you very very much to anyone that can.

html
Code:

<html>
<head>
<style>
	@import url(template.css);
</style>
</head>
<body>
<table id='main' cellspacing='0'>
  <tr>
    <td id='logobox'>
      logo
    </td>
    <td id='menu'>
      menu
    </td>
  </tr>

  <tr>
    <td id='content' colspan='2'>
      content
    </td>
  </tr>

  <tr>
    <td id='footer' colspan='2'>
      footer
    </td>
  </tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

css
Code:

body, html
{
	height: 100%;
	background-color: #fff;
	margin: 0px;
}

td
{
	border: 1px solid #000;
}

table#main
{
	width: 60%;
	height: 100%;
	margin: 0px auto;
	border: 1px solid #000;
}

td#logobox
{
	width: 80px;
	height: 80px;
}

td#menu
{

}

td#content
{
	columnspan: 2;
}

td#footer
{
	height: 1%;
}

Hi all,

I have a bit of an odd situation (prob not odd if you seen it before but I have no clue why its doing it!).... I have my webpage:

http://www.houseofhawkins.com/index.html

which works great in IE. the part in question is the menu tabs at the top. Within IE they keep the width I have given them.. In firefox they only go to the width of the text.

They are links with the following CSS attached:

div#Header #MenuSection a.MenuTab {

PHP Code:
 filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Gradient(endColorstr='#A8DBA8', startColorstr='#A4B7A4', gradientType='0');
    font-weight: bold;
    text-align: center;
    font-size: 1.3em;
    background-color: #BCD6BC;
    border-style: solid;
    border-width: 1px;
    border-color: #A5BEA5 #BCD6BC #BCD6BC #A5BEA5;
    margin: 0 5px 0 2px;
    height: 1.5em;
    width: 140px;    
    padding: 5px 1px 1px 1px;
}

div#Header #MenuSection {
    float:left;
    margin-top: 30px;
} 





here is the HTML code for that part of the page.

PHP Code:
<div ID="MenuSection">
                    <a Class="SelectedMenuTab" Title="You are currently viewing the Home page">Home</a>
                    <a Class="MenuTab" href="" title="Curriculum Vitae for Jonathan Hawkins, Author of House of Hawkins">CV</a>
                    <a Class="MenuTab" href="http://houseofhawkins.com/projects/index.html" title="Portfolio of Work created by Jon Hawkins">Portfolio</a>
                    <a Class="MenuTab" href="" title="Online Photo Gallery of Jon, friends and family">Photo Gallery</a>
                    <a Class="MenuTab" href="http://houseofhawkins.com/games.html" title="Games created by House of Hawkins">Games</a>
                </div>
            <div style="clear:left"> </div> 





I just dont get why firefox wont be nice and give me the width I ask for... the oddest bit is if I put float:left into the menutab part they do work!

I wish to understand why its like this... I have attached the CSS and the file if that helps anyone.

Thanks for the help and advice.

Hi

I am having a nightmare trying to get my horizontal navigation items to fill the width of my page and looking the same in IE and FF.

Here is the page http://www.designhomemanagement.com/new/

You will see that in IE the spacing is different.

They need to fill the width of the design (760px)

Please someone help me!

Thanks

Please look at these two pages -

www dot aamco-houston dot com

www dot aamco-houston dot com/warranties.asp

On the second page, in IE9, the navigation gets broken and put on two lines. In IE7, IE8, Firefox,etc. it looks fine. Can someone give me a workaround perhaps? Thanks. Tom

I would really appreciate some help with this layout issue I am having. Look at this page in IE 9 -

http://www.hotstepperspainting.com/.../assistance.asp

Notice the menu wraps the last link around and onto the body of the page? Also note that the bottom nav bar is doubled up.

Now in IE8 I don't have the menu problem but do have the footer issue.

In IE7 it looks like it should.

I would really appreciate it is someone could shed some light for me on this. Tom

Hi,

This will help explain it: http://www.mattvonfat.com

Now there is a container DIV (the box that goes down to almost bottom of screen) and 4 DIVs in the container (Logo, two link bars and my content).

My problem is that I want the content to fill up as much as possible and have the bottom link bar (which is bordered) to be at the very bottom. Now, I tried adding height: 100%; to my content style but that made it 100% of the body height. Is there way to get it to just fill up as much as possible?

I just noticed that one problem could be that the containing DIV uses absolute positioning to make the container 50px from both bottom and top. Would this be a problem?

Here is the css for both the container and the content:

css Code:
Original - css Code /* container */ div#outer { position: absolute; width: 700px; font: 12px Verdana; background-color: #FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; top: 50px; bottom: 50px; left: 50%; margin-left: -350px; padding: 0px; min-width: 700px; } /*content*/ div#indexs { border-top: 1px solid #000000; padding: 10px; margin: 0px; text-align: center; }

  

  


  


 /* container */


  


 div#outer {


     position: absolute;


     width: 700px;


     font: 12px Verdana;


     background-color: #FFFFFF;


     border: 1px solid #000000;


     top: 50px;


     bottom: 50px;


     left: 50%;


     margin-left: -350px;


     padding: 0px;


     min-width: 700px;


 }


  


 /*content*/


  


 div#indexs {


     border-top: 1px solid #000000;


     padding: 10px;


     margin: 0px;


     text-align: center;


  


 } 

Thanks for any help you can give me with this,
Matthew

[edit] Hmm and i just realised that it doesn't even appear in IE the way it does in mozilla so I have two problems...[/edit]

Hey, all!

I'm having a seemingly simple problem... and I'd really appreciate if you guys could help me out! I have no idea how to do what I want done, but I know it's possible.

I want to give every <tr> in <table class="forumList"> a 'border-bottom: 1px solid #000;' style.... except for the last <tr>. HOWEVER, if a new table is created, I want it to start showing the border-bottom again... until the last <tr> in the table. How would I go about doing this?

I'm having serious problems with the Peekaboo bug in IE. At least I think its that - I've tried all the fixes listed on positioniseverything and none are fixing it...

http://ucy.sitemakers.com/courses.php

I've got a three column layout taken from alistaparts Holy Grail layout which I've had working on many other sites with no problems, but I have added another two column layout directly above the three column one in this case.

The problem im having is a jumping div element, the left column. When you click on the Courses link the element is in the centre of the page but moving the mouse around the main menu items will make it jump back into place. On page refresh the column is in the right place. Wierdly hovering over the link in the centre column doesnt make the offending div jump back like I would have expected.

Taking out the following IE hack from the CSS:
*html #cc_l { left:22em;}
Makes the div appear in the correct place when clicking on the Courses link, until I hover over the menu again - then it jumps off the left of the page!

This is doing my nut in, anyone have any ideas?

I'm working on reworking my flash site into a CSS/HTML site. Tired of dealing with flash.

Anyways....I am working on this page currently and am having trouble getting 3 divs to line up properly in IE. They look great in Firefox!

Take a look and let me know if you have any ideas. Any help is much appreciated.

Here's the link www .crealities.com/2008/inspiration.htm

Having some problem's with this layout i'm 'attempting' to develop in CSS...

The Div setup
Code:

<div id="header">
  Header
</div>

<div id="container">

  <div id="menu_left">
    Menu Left
  </div>

  <div id="content">
    Content
  </div>

  <div id="menu_right">
    Menu Right
  </div>

</div>

<div id="footer">
  Footer
</div>

The CSS
Code:

/* specific divs */
#container {
    margin: -3px;
    width: 100%;
    text-align: center;
}
#header {
    height: 100%;
    text-align: left;
    border-style: dotted;
    border-width: 1px;
    border-color: #000000;
}
#content {
    width: 60%;
    position: fixed;
    float: left;
    border-style: dotted;
    border-width: 1px;
    border-color: #000000;
}
#menu_left {
    width: 20%;
    position: fixed;
    float: left;
    border-style: dotted;
    border-width: 1px;
    border-color: #000000;
}
#menu_right {
    width: 20%;
    border-style: dotted;
    border-width: 1px;
    border-color: #000000;
}
#footer {
    border-style: dotted;
    border-width: 1px;
    border-color: #000000;
}

I've been looking around I don't really know where I'm going wrong due to my lack of experiance with CSS....
But in IE it won't float the DIV [menu_right] i've tried using position absolute|relative|fixed none seem to work i've been trying different combo's of Floats and mostly anything I can think of if someone here would be able to spare some time to help a 'noob' i'd be very gratefull...

Thanks

I am trying to get my suckerfish dropdown menu to be centered on the page regardless of the resolution of the monitor. I know this is possible, but I just can't wrap my head around it. This is what I have so far:
Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" >
	
	<head>
	
		<title><?php echo $title_page; ?></title>
		
		<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="application/xhtml+xml; charset=iso-8859-1" />
		
		<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="site_files/style/web.css" />
		
		<link rel="Shortcut Icon" href="site_files/pictures/favicon.ico" />
		
		<script type="text/javascript" src="site_files/ie_drop.js"></script>
		
	</head>
	
	<body>
		
		<div id="header">
			<p>NAVPACMETOCCEN San Diego Operational Home Page</p>
		</div>
		
		<div id="info">
			<p>This page will be down at 1100 GMT on 20 June 2005.  Click <a href="site_files/php/status.html">here</a> for more information.</p>
		</div>
		
		
		<div id="menu">
			<ul id="nav">
		
				<li><a href="index.php">Home Page</a></li>
				
				<li>Support
					<ul>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Ship Specific</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Unit Specific</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Detachment</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Mobile Env. Team</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Coast Guard</a></li>
					</ul>
				</li>

				<li>Satellite
					<ul>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Infrared</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Visual</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Water Vapor</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Lightning</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Analysis</a></li>
					</ul>
				</li>
				
				<li>Products
					<ul>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Warnings</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Forecasts</a></li>
					</ul>
				</li>
				
				<li>Aviation 
					<ul>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Products</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Contact Info.</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">OBS/TAFS</a></li>
						<li><a href="site_files/php/a.html">Aviation Links</a></li>
					</ul>
				</li>

				<li><a href="site_files/php/links.html">Links</a></li>

			</ul>
		</div>
		
				<div id="leftside">
		
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="http://www.navy.com">Navy Jobs</a></p>
			
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="http://www.donhr.navy.mil/NoFearAct.asp">No Fear Act</a></p>
			
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="http://www.navy.mil">U.S. Navy Website</a></p>
			
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="html/privacy.html">Privacy Policy</a></p>
			
			<p class="leftmenu"><a href="site_files/disclaimer.html">DoD Disclaimer</a></p>
			
		</div>

	</body>
	
</html>

And here is the style sheet:

Code:

/* This part tells us how the hyperlinks will be handled by the browsers, and also what the background will be */


a:link { /* This is the link standard color*/
	color: #000000; /*black*/
	}
a:visited { /* This is the color of an already visited link*/
	color: #800080;/*purple*/
	}

a:hover {/* This is the color your link will take when you move your mouse over it*/
	color: #FF0000;/*red*/
	text-decoration: none;
	}
	
a:active {/* This is the color and effect when you physically click on the link*/
	color: #008080;  /*teal*/
	}

a { /*This tells the browser not to underline any links */
	text-decoration: none;  
	}


/* This begins the header and the information notice portion */

#header {
	margin: -14px -8px 0px -8px;
	padding: 10px;
	height: auto;
	background: #000060;
	}

#header p {
	margin: 0;
	height: auto;
	color: #FFFF1B;
	text-align: center;
	font: small-caps 24px verdana, san-serif, serif;
	}

#info {
	margin: -1px -8px 0px -8px;
	padding: 1px;
	height: auto;
	}

#info p {
	margin: 0;
	height: auto;
	color: #0000FF;
	background: #FFFFFF;
	text-align: center;
	font: bold 12px arial, san-serif, serif;
	}

/* This ends the header and the information notice portion */





/* This begins the Drop-down menu portion*/

#menu { /* Top-Right-Bottom-Left */
	margin: 0 0 0 145px;
	padding: 0;
	width: auto;
	font: small-caps bold 12px verdana, san-serif, serif;
	}

ul { /* all lists */
	padding: 0;
	margin: 0;
	list-style: none;
	}

li { /* all list items */
	float: left;
	position: relative;
	width: 125px;
	}

li ul { /* second-level lists */
	display: none;
	position: absolute;
	top: 14px;
	left: 0;
	}

li>ul { /* to override top and left in browsers other than IE, which will position to the top right of the containing li, rather than bottom left */
	top: auto;
	left: auto;
	}

li:hover ul, li.over ul { /* lists nested under hovered list items */
	display: block;
	}
	
/* This ends the drop-down menu portion */	




/* This begins the left-side menu portion */
	
#leftside {
	margin: 100px 0px 0px -8px;
	width: 115px;
	color: #000000;
	font: small-caps 12px arial, san-serif, serif;
	}
	
.leftmenu {
	margin: 5px 0 2px 0;
	height: 15px;
	background: #DDEEFF;	
	}
	
#pkinotice {
	margin: 0px 50px 0px 125px;
	font: bold 12px arial, san-serif, serif;
	}
	
.pki {
	border: 2px solid #FF0000;

As you can see, I've just moved it over manually 145 px, and that centers it pretty well if you are viewing it at 1024x768, but at higher resolutions, the 145px is not sufficient for the centering.

If anyone has an idea on how to fix it, I'd appreciate help. The solution must be able to validate, and work in both IE and a compliant browser (mozilla or firefox is what I use). Also, if the style sheet code can be cleaned up, or you see mistakes, don't hesitate to tell me. I've been learning CSS2.1 for about 3 months now, but I am not a whiz at it... I appreciate the help.



Many thanks...

Bryan

Hi.
K, the site (thus far) looks great in IE, as the CSS is functioning perfectly. However, when checked in FF, it pretty well ignores the CSS for the body. I"ve undoubtedly missed somethin', just don't know what it is.

Thanks

here's the css;


Code:

.borders {
	border: 1px solid #666666;
	text-align:center;
}

}
.text {
	font-family:Century Gothic, Arial, sans-serif;
	font-size: 11px;
	color: #333333;
	text-align:left;
}

}
.listtext {
	font-family:Century Gothic, Arial, sans-serif;
	font-size: 11px;
	color: #333333;
	text-align:left;
}


table.menu {
border:1px solid #999999;
background:#CCCCCC;
}
table.menu a:link, table.menu a:visited {
display:block;
font-family:Century Gothic, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size:12px;
line-height:16px;
color:#006600;
text-decoration:none;
padding: 2px 2px;
}
table.menu a:active, table.menu a:hover {
color:#CCCCCC;
background:#006600;
}


table.menu a {
	width:144px;
	display:block;
	font-family:Century Gothic, Arial, sans-serif;
	font-size:12px;
	line-height:16px;
	color:#006600;
	text-decoration:none;
	padding: 2px 2px;
 } 

and here's the HTML

Code:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Kyrtsakas Law - Home</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="description" content="Kyrtsakas Law Office - Title Insurance from an experienced Real Estate Lawyer offers the best protection for your investment">
<meta name="keywords" content="Kyrtsakas, Law, Law Office, Lawyer, real estate, estate, will, title, Windsor, purchases, mortgages, power of attorney, attorney, CAW">
<link href="kyrtsakas_styles.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
</head>

<body topmargin="0" bgcolor="#666666">
	
<table width="640" align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" class="menu">
  <tr valign="top">
			<td align="center" width="640" colspan="6">
				<img src="images/Kyrtsakas_header.jpg" alt="Kyrtsakas Law Office">
			</td>
		</tr>
		<tr valign="top">
			<td class="borders" width="106" colspan="1">&nbsp;
				
			</td>
			<td class="borders" width="106" colspan="1">
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Thank you!

I'm having trouble getting my background to render for my site.

When I write the code in the HTML ex.
<body background="images/currentbgimage.jpg">
it brings up the image fine. This would suffice if I could tell the image not to repeat. But you can't to my knowledge in the body tag.

The image won't display if I write it in the CSS though. ex.
body {background-image: url('images/currentbgimage.jpg')}
or
body {background: url('images/currentbgimage.jpg')}

I also tried it with the JPG in the folder with the HTML code, but to no avail.

Any help will be appreciated.

Skolar