CSS - Float & Border Conflict

subject isn't too good

anyhow.. i have 4 cells

__ __
|1 | |2 |
--- ---
__ __
|3| |4 |
--- ---

2 and 4 are said to float right, such that 1 and 3 define the height of the page..

but.. when the contents of 2 go LONGER than the contents of 1, number 4 doesn't float right properly.. instead this happens

__ __
|1 | |2 |
--- | |
--- | |
|4| ---
---
__
|3|
---


do you see that? 4 tries to float right, but since it's called underneath 1, and 2 is extended, floating right relative to the page doesn't make it ACTUALLY float right

any thoughts that will render this properly? (namely that cells 1 and 3 will inherit the height of 2 and 4 somehow?)

Hi There -

Am converting another design from tables, working with a CMS (Drupal) and an existing CSS / table combination that I didn't write and have no choice about.

Think of the header as having three sections. The top section has logo on the left, search box on the right. Rounded corners. I'm cool with that section.

Then there's a space. Created a div for the space. Love the space. Problems with the space in IE. Will go into it later.

Then there's the next section. Rounded corners. Contains the entire page.

On the left is a pulldown menu, about 1 cm from the top. On the right is a tabbed menu. This menu has flexible height. It needs to be right up against the bottom with the menu below it. Call this section the tabbed menu section.

Third section. Immediately below that is a bar menu like the one Apple's got. Looks like a metal bar with divisions. Call this primary links.

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First, the space between. In IE, when you roll over the bar menu, the space disappears. Won't come back.

Initially, in the second section, floated the pulldown menu left and the tabbed menu right. That worked fine, except that the tabbed menu had a width of 100% and pushed up the pulldown menu so the section was too wide. When I put it to 65%, all hell broke loose with the bar menu in the third section below it and bits of it snuck up into the second section.

If I left it alone, and left the tabbed menu at 100%, when I checked over its container with firebug, it said that it was being affected by the primary links. I figured that out also because the background for that container was a really weird color that I finally found in the background of the navigation id and changed to white. Primary was overlapping it so I couldn't see it with firebug.

So after fiddling with several clearing methods, I gave up and decided to try a table. Table worked fine, and the second section looks good except that there's a one pixel space between the tabbed menu and the bar menu.

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It is my greatest wish right now to be able to float the pulldown to the left, the tabbed menu to the right and have the primary links stay below. I wish I could get the space to work and I wish for a clear understanding of it all so I can then figure out where to put the corners.

Anyone who can enlighten me on this would have my undying gratitude. I've been working on this all day and the deadline's tomorrow.

Code:

<div id="top part"
logo and searchbox
</div>

<div>
that pesky space that disappears in IE when roll over primary links
</div>

<div id=navcontainer>
dropdown and tabbed menu
</div>

<div id="navigation" class="menu> <!-- couldn't find the menu class in the css -->
<div id="primary" class="clear-block">
contains barmenu - very fussy
</div>
</div>

Here's the relevant CSS:

Code:

div#navigation {
  background: #fff url(../images/blue/menu-bg.png) 100% 100% repeat-x;
}


#primary {
  line-height: 30px;
}

#primary ul {
  padding:0;
  margin:0;
  list-style:none;
}

#primary li {
  display:inline;
}

#primary a {
  font-weight:bold;
  display:block;
  float:left;
  padding:0px 14px 0px 14px;
  margin: 0px 1px 0px 0px;
  font-size: 95%;
}

#primary a {
  background-position:0% 0px;
}

#primary a:hover {
  text-decoration: none;
  background-position:0% -42px;
}

#primary a.active {
  background-position: 0% -84px;
}

#primary a {
  background: url(../images/blue/menu-div.png) 100% 0 repeat-y;
  color:#666666;
  font-size: 120%;
  font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
}

#primary a:hover {
  color: 666666;
  background: #B8B8B8;
}

#primary a.active {
  color: 666666;
  background: #B8B8B8;
}

This is my first try at css and i have been at it about a week on and off. I have tried to use examples from here and the o'reilly CSS cookbook. I want to create a two column row of pictures with a caption. I selected DIV as the tool (my css is below). The container DIV looks great. I want the div.float, however, to start a second row when a third picture is added and to continue thereafter with successive two column rows. Unfortunately, each of my rows contain only one picture.

here is my css style sheet. A demonstration of the problem can be seen at:

http://www.yourline-online.com/demo05/?How_to_create_pages
Code:

div.float {
    float: left;
    BORDER-RIGHT: #808080 2px solid;
    PADDING-RIGHT: 2px;
    BORDER-TOP: #808080 2px solid;
    PADDING-LEFT: 2px;
    FONT-WEIGHT: lighter;
    FONT-SIZE: medium;
    PADDING-BOTTOM: 20px;
    MARGIN: 16px 2%;
    BORDER-LEFT: #808080 2px solid;
    COLOR: #000000;
    PADDING-TOP: 2px;
    BORDER-BOTTOM: #808080 2px solid;
    HEIGHT: 200px;
    WIDTH: 150px;
    BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff;
    TEXT-DECORATION: none
  }
  
div.float p {
   text-align: center;
   }
div.container {
  border: 2px dashed #333;
  background-color: #ffe;
  }
div.spacer {
  clear: both;
  }

MY HTML is like this:
Code:

H1>How to create pages</H1>
<P>The headings are used for splitting up the content file. An H1, H2 or H3 heading will dynamically split the document into new pages in the table of contents. An H4-heading is used as a heading within a page. See the following pages...<BR></P>
<P></P>
<DIV class=container>
<DIV class=spacer></DIV>
<DIV class=float><IMG height=100 alt="image 1" src="image1.gif" width=100> 
<P>caption 1</P></DIV>
<DIV class=spacer></DIV>
<DIV class=float><IMG height=100 alt="image 2" src="image2.gif" width=100>
<P>caption 2</P></DIV>
<DIV class=spacer>
<DIV class=float><IMG height=100 alt="image 3" src="http://www.yourline-online.com/demo05/image3.gif" width=100>
<P>caption 3</P></DIV>
<DIV class=spacer></DIV></DIV></DIV>

Hi all,

I have a bit of an odd situation (prob not odd if you seen it before but I have no clue why its doing it!).... I have my webpage:

http://www.houseofhawkins.com/index.html

which works great in IE. the part in question is the menu tabs at the top. Within IE they keep the width I have given them.. In firefox they only go to the width of the text.

They are links with the following CSS attached:

div#Header #MenuSection a.MenuTab {

PHP Code:
 filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Gradient(endColorstr='#A8DBA8', startColorstr='#A4B7A4', gradientType='0');
    font-weight: bold;
    text-align: center;
    font-size: 1.3em;
    background-color: #BCD6BC;
    border-style: solid;
    border-width: 1px;
    border-color: #A5BEA5 #BCD6BC #BCD6BC #A5BEA5;
    margin: 0 5px 0 2px;
    height: 1.5em;
    width: 140px;    
    padding: 5px 1px 1px 1px;
}

div#Header #MenuSection {
    float:left;
    margin-top: 30px;
} 





here is the HTML code for that part of the page.

PHP Code:
<div ID="MenuSection">
                    <a Class="SelectedMenuTab" Title="You are currently viewing the Home page">Home</a>
                    <a Class="MenuTab" href="" title="Curriculum Vitae for Jonathan Hawkins, Author of House of Hawkins">CV</a>
                    <a Class="MenuTab" href="http://houseofhawkins.com/projects/index.html" title="Portfolio of Work created by Jon Hawkins">Portfolio</a>
                    <a Class="MenuTab" href="" title="Online Photo Gallery of Jon, friends and family">Photo Gallery</a>
                    <a Class="MenuTab" href="http://houseofhawkins.com/games.html" title="Games created by House of Hawkins">Games</a>
                </div>
            <div style="clear:left"> </div> 





I just dont get why firefox wont be nice and give me the width I ask for... the oddest bit is if I put float:left into the menutab part they do work!

I wish to understand why its like this... I have attached the CSS and the file if that helps anyone.

Thanks for the help and advice.

Hi.

Have created some simple tabs using table cells.

Active tab should have bottom-border color equal to page background-color.
Non-active tabs should have bottom-border=black.

Works fine in IE, but does not work very well in Firefox.

If I remove the border-collapse:collapse on the table, then firefox also work... but I would like to be able to keep the 1px border between each table cell.

So is there a way to make this work in both IE and Firefox...
and hopefully most other browsers...

See code below:

Code:

 
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<style type="text/css">
	a.menu_top:link {color: #000000; text-decoration: none;}
	a.menu_top:visited {color: #000000; text-decoration: none;}
	a.menu_top:hover {color: #000000; text-decoration: none;}
	a.menu_top:active {color: #000000; text-decoration: none;}
	
	td.menu_top_passive { 
		background-color: #777;
		border-left: 1px #000000 solid;
		border-right: 1px #000000 solid;
		border-top: 1px #000000 solid;
		border-bottom: 1px #000000 solid;
		
		text-align: center;
		
		cursor:pointer;
		font-weight: bold;
		
		padding: 5px 20px 5px 20px; 
		 
		margin: 0;
		 
	}
		
	td.menu_top_active { 
		
		background-color: #bbb;
		border-left: 1px #000000 solid;
		border-right: 1px #000000 solid;
		border-top: 1px #000000 solid;
		border-bottom: 1px #bbb solid;
		
		text-align: center;
	
		cursor:pointer;
		font-weight: bold;
		padding: 5px 20px 5px 20px;
		
		margin: 0;
		
	}
	

</style>

<script language="JavaScript">


function change(id, url) {
	for (i=1; i<6; i++){
		eval("document.getElementById("+i+").className='menu_top_passive'");
	}	
	eval("document.getElementById("+id+").className='menu_top_active'");
}
</script>

</head>
<body style="margin:0; padding:0; background-color:#bbb;">
<br><br>
<center>
1. Load the page.<br>
2. Click Item 4.<br>
3. Click Item 2.<br><br>
Why is the bottom border of the menuelements (table cells) not getting correct in Firefox?<br>
None-active menuelements should have a border-bottom = black, active should have same bottom-border as page.<br>
Notice that I use border-collapse on the table in order to get the cell-border 1px thick between the menuitems.<br>
If I remove border-collapse, then there is no strange behaviour in Firefox.<br>
Any way to get this working in Firefox without breaking it in IE?

</center>
<br><br><br>
	<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="border-collapse:collapse;">
		<tr>
			<td id="1" nowrap class="menu_top_active" onClick="change('1');"><a  href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 1</a></td>
			<td id="2" nowrap class="menu_top_passive" onClick="change('2');"><a href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 2</a></td>	 
			<td id="3" nowrap class="menu_top_passive" onClick="change('3');"><a  href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 3</a></td>				
			<td id="4" nowrap class="menu_top_passive" onClick="change('4');"><a  href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 4</a></td>
			<td id="5" nowrap class="menu_top_passive" onClick="change('5');"><a  href="javascript:;" class="menu_top">Item 5</a></td>

		</tr>
	</table>
</body>
</html>

I'm a little puzzled by this weird display bug by IE7, this bug doesn't occur in IE6. It had to do with the DIV's CSS's border-style.

If you set it to double then you notice some random bugs with it. Some of the time, the border is displayed without a problem. Some of the time, it is displayed with some gaps in the line as if it is not being drawn upon. Some of the other time, it is not displayed at all.

I noticed if I switch from one tab to another then back, the border appeared as if nothing had happened. I also noticed that if I open the view source that overlapp the web browser then closed it, the border appeared as if nothing had happened.

How do you fix that problem?

Thanks...

Hi,

This used to be my solution:
Code:

<table border=1 bordercolorlight='#CCCCCC' Bordercolordark='#FFFFFF'>

But this only works well on IE - not Mozilla

Now I want to use CSS:
Code:

	.results {
	  	border: 1px solid #CCCCCC ;
	}

Code:

<table class='results'>

---------------

The problem is, with CSS, only the TABLE acquires the border property. The cells within it don't.

If I specify
Code:

<td class='results'>

for all the cells in the table, this also won't work, because the cell borders overlap each other and some border lines seem thicker than others (because of overlapping).

Is there any simple way I can specify the border property for the table - in ONE declaration? I want the table and td borders all to be a simple 1px width ...is that possible in one declaration?

Thanks a lot!

I would like to set up a table with a different border than the cells inside it. Here's my code:

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<style type="text/css">
	TABLE {border: 1px solid black; border-collapse: collapse; width: 200px}
	TD {border: 1px solid #ccc}
</style>


</head>

<body>
<table>
  <tr>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
  </tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

That's all hunky dory in (gasp!) IE, but good browsers...they only show the lighter gray color. How do I get the table border to be different?

...And for once firefox is the problem! Well here it is part of the page in internet explorer first



And here in firefox



Why the overlap in firefox? Heres my css

Code:

body {
	margin: 0px;
	padding: 0px;
}
#header {
	background-color: #9F0000;
	width: 760px;
	height: 150px;
	margin-right: auto;
	margin-left: auto;
	z-index: 1;
	background-image: url(../Graphics/png/headergradient.png);
	background-repeat: repeat-x;
}
#NavDiv ul {
	margin-top: 0px;
	margin-bottom: 2px;
}
#MainContent table {
	margin-right: auto;
	margin-left: auto;
	margin-top: 0px;
}

#NavDiv li {
	list-style-type: none;
	display: inline;
	margin-right: 25px;
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 14px;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #FFFFFF;
}

#NavDiv {
	width: 760px;
	background-color: #999999;
	height: 25px;
	margin-right: auto;
	margin-left: auto;
	z-index: 1;
	padding-top: 5px;
	padding-bottom: 5px;
}

.headertitle {
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 24px;
	color: #000000;
}
#Footer p {
	text-align: center;
}

#MainContent {
	height: 600px;
	width: 760px;
	text-align: left;
	margin-right: auto;
	margin-left: auto;
	background-color: #FFE784;
}
#MainContent p {
	margin-left: 50px;
	margin-right: 50px;
	margin-top: -10px;
}

#Footer {
	background-color: #9F0000;
	height: 116px;
	width: 760px;
	visibility: visible;
	background-image: url(../Graphics/png/headergradient.png);
	background-repeat: repeat-x;
	margin-right: auto;
	margin-left: auto;
	bottom: 0px;
	position: static;
}
#header li {
	color: #FFFFFF;
	list-style-type: none;
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-weight: bold;
}
#Footer p {
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #FFFFFF;
}
#MainContent li {
	list-style-image: url(../Graphics/png/glove.png);
	margin-top: 1px;
}

And the page in question is http://bif.dmsbdesign.com/WWA.html

Also anyone have the name of a good css book I can pick up?

Can someone look at this and see what my background is not appearing properly in Firefox? It only happens on my forum page that is the same page with the phpbb dropped into the middle. I am sure the css of phpbb is conflicting with my CSS for the web site. You will have to use a CSS browser plug in to view thee is just too much to post.

Link to web site

I've got a conflict and would appreciate a review.

I'm trying to change to css forms. Looks fine in IE (majority of my site visitors), but Firefox throws the form below. I think it's in my column layouts, but I don't know how to get around it. To view: http://www.mtn.ncahec.org/aboutus/test.asp
Base css is To view: http://www.mtn.ncahec.org/aboutus/base.css


Think the culprit is:
div.row {
clear: both;
padding-top: 10px;
}
div.row span.label {
float: left;
width: 25%;
text-align: right;
font-weight: bold;
}
div.row span.formw {
float: right;
width: 70%;
text-align: left;
}

Thanks for any assistance.

Hi Folks,
I've created a new css skin for my asp.net storefront. Everything works as I'd like except that my content div keeps getting expanded beyond the barrier of the main wrapper. I think it's because of the tables that the storefront fills into the content div, but i'm not really sure. The problem only exists in IE. looks right in FF. If you look at this page in both IE and FF you can see the difference pinkgolftees.com/default.aspx?skinid=9

the main content area sticks out the right side and my max width of 500px seems to be ignored. Is there a way to control this with my stylesheet so I don't have to change the code for the storefront? is it in fact the tables that are causing my problem, or have I created an error somewhere else?

thanks
Mark

Hey guys, hit a problem with my div formatting in css. usig external style sheet with the two styles "header" and "regular". If i make the div class="regular" and then make the first line class="header" using the <a> tag without defining href (as it is not a link, and dont want it to be a paragraph). Then the content below the 1st line ends up superimposed over the 1st line. You understand what i mean? Hopefully this might be a common bug? Anyone know what is causing this? im using IE6.0 to check it for bugs. It is offline atm, as i am making it. but it can be made available if anyone needs to see it.

Code:

<div id="content" class="regular" style="top: 280px; background-color: F5DEB3; padding: 10px; padding-bottom: 0px;">
		<a class="header">About New Zealand</a>
		<p>New Zealand is one of the most unique places in the world to dive. Its rich, nutrient-dense waters provide a home to a <a href="constructionpage.html" class="interlink">multitude</a> of exotic and amazing <a href="constructionpage.html" class="intralink">creatures.</a>
		Whilst many of the tropical wonders are summer visistors to our shores, there is an abundance of life all year round.</p>
		</div>

Monkeewrench

p.s sorry the code window is stuffed, first time using it, lol

Hi, my CMS is bridged with a forum and the body background color from the CMS is overriding the forum css. I have similar issues with the p and td tags and perhaps more small stuff. How can I resolve the conflicts so I can set the forum styles independent of my Mambo template? Here is an example (body color issue)

CMS code:

Code:

body {
	margin: 10px 0px 10px 0px;
	padding: 0;
	font: 101.5%/1.4em "Trebuchet MS", Tahoma, Verdana, Helvetica;
	letter-spacing: normal;
	background: #232323 url(../images/body_bg.png) repeat-x center top;
	color: #999;}

Forum code:

Code:

body {
	font: 90%/85% Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	background: #666666;
	margin: 0;
	padding: 12px 0 4px 0;
}

Hello everyone,

I'm working on a word press design for my site and I'm having some problems with absolute positioning. The positioning is fine in and of itself but I've found that if the absolute positioned element is underneath a link, it voids out the link. The text for the link is there, just no link. I've tested this by removing the absolute positioned element and the links work fine after I do that. Any idea what's going on with this?

This occurs in both Firefox and IE. I've validated the CSS as CSS 2.1.

You can see what I'm talking about at my site randomdamage dot org (the forum wouldn't let me post the link) If you scroll to the bottom of the page you can see two links which are being affected, the comments link for the last post and the next page link. The absolute element is the red splatter graphic.

Here's the relevant css:

/*footer styles*/
#footer blockquote { background-image: url(images/splash.png); width: 850px; height: 100px; position: absolute; left: 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat; bottom: 63px; text-indent: -9999px; z-index:9;}
#footer { clear:both; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; padding-right: 20px; padding-left: 20px; padding-top: 20px; }
#footer p { text-align:center; font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; padding-top: 10px; padding-bottom: 40px; }


Any help would be greatly appreciated.