CSS - Ie Vs. Firefox With Spans And Tables

Hi,

I am facing a problem while viewing tables in Firefox 1.5.0.1. Everything is fine till the number of rows are less than the table height. As soon as it increases the height, the scroll bard donesn't appear. Instead, it overlaps with the rest of the area. It worked fine in the older versions in IE, Mozilla and Firefox. But now it depending on the height, it hides the rest of the user area as it overlaps it. Can anyone help ?

Thanks

The objective:
Produce page content which behaves as if it were 'tabbed' as seen on many websites and programmes.

I have done this many times before, but only with absolute positioning from the document base level. This time, the div containing the information to be tabbed has to appear relative (for re-sizability) and contain the tab divs within it.

I am using a short javascript to change the z-index of the divs in order to produce the tab effect.

The problem:
The whole thing works fine, except for:
- If I leave the css height off the divs, IE chops the bottom off, and does not allow a scroll.
- If I put a height and auto (or scroll) overflow on the divs they display correctly in IE, but disappear in firefox
- Until a table contained within one of the divs becomes larger than the stated height. At which point that div (not any of the others) disappears from IE as well.

The question:
Is this a known bug? If so, what is the work-around?
Have I done something dumb? If so, what?

The source:
source files are available for download (they are quite large, and I don't want to trim them in case something in the trim is the problem. Plus they need to be large to demonstrate the length issue correctly). Text within these examples is copyrighted by various people and is used without permission, for illustrative purposes only.

the xhtml page - click through the tabs to see the effect. Add extra rows to the table in the 'dates & prices' tab to see the disappearing problem.
the javascript file - the function is at the bottom, 'layer_z_lift'.
the css stylesheet - the styles for the tabs are in the middle, commented as tour details tabs.

any questions, post and I shall answer.
Jz.

Hi,

Please use Firefox and look at:
https://67.18.220.222/~duoboots/secure/test_start.php

Only on Firefox do I see scrollbars on the right white box. The white box is fixed width, and is supposed to expand vertically with the content.

However, the white box does not expand as much as I'd like to. Eventually, as the content gets bigger, Firefox displays unwanted scroll bars.

Then, if I simply press 'Refresh'... the scroll bars disappear, and Firefox displays the page exactly how I want it!

Its really wierd because I can't test this properly. Once the page is refreshed, there are no scroll bars. But, a general user won't press Refresh..and will end up at that page eventually, to find unwanted scroll bars.

I've tried it on Opera, and a friend said its definitely a Firefox bug. I am sure the <table> is causing the problem - because all other pages display fine. The scroll bars are only appearing on this particular page, with a <table>.

Note : if you do not see scrollbars... then thats not a surprise, because Firefox is acting strange on this one.... I mainly see the scroll bars after signing in and accessing the actual PHP page that is dynamically generated. The above link is just a static version whose code I copied and pasted.

Anyway, if anyone has had any similar problems with tables and overflow-scrollbars.. please could you let me know what you did about it?

Some CSS:

Code:

	table.oa_results {
		border: 1px solid #C9AA90;
		border-collapse: collapse;
		width: 310px;
	}

	table.oa_results td {	
		border: 1px inset #C9AA90;
		padding: 2px 2px 2px 4px;
	}

	table.oa_results th {	
		border: 1px inset #C9AA90;
		padding: 2px 4px;
		font-weight: bold;
		text-align: left;
	}

	.whitebox_general_oa {
		width: 387px;
		background: #FFFFFF;
		line-height: 18px;
		overflow:visible;
		display: block;
		clear: both;
	}

Thanks very much!

I'm not confident enough with CSS to just use it, so I'm mixing it with some tables too.

I want a layout with two tables next to each at the top and then another below.

The two at the top are working fine, but the one below keeps jumping back up to the top.

I've managed to get an ugly fix by putting in a load of <br> but this doesn't work in IE7 (unless I add a lot more, pushing the content way down in other browsers) and isn't much of a solution.

The other problem I have is that I want to have the majority of my page with a white background, but to get a surrounding border I've set the body background to be a colour and then placed a div around all the content. I want this div to be the size of the page and so set it's height to 100%, but this makes it too small. Not sure why.

Here is my code for my page and CSS.

If anyone can help I'd be most grateful.

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title></title>
<link href="incl/default.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function navon(num) {
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.backgroundColor = '#CDEB8B';
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingTop = '0px'
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingBottom = '0px'; 
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderTopWidth = '10px';
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderBottomWidth = '10px';
	
}

function navoff(num) {
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.backgroundColor = '#C3D9FF';
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingTop = '8px'
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.paddingBottom = '8px'; 
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderTopWidth = '2px';
	document.getElementById("nav" + num).style.borderBottomWidth = '2px';
}
//-->
</script>

</head>

<body>
<div class="main">

<table width="29%" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" align="left">
<tr>
<td><img src="" alt="" width="230" height="80" border="0" /></td>
</tr>
</table>

<table width="70%" height="60px" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" align="right">
<tr>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav1" onmouseover="navon('1')" onmouseout="navoff('1')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav2" onmouseover="navon('2')" onmouseout="navoff('2')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav3" onmouseover="navon('3')" onmouseout="navoff('3')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav4" onmouseover="navon('4')" onmouseout="navoff('4')">link</td>
<td width="180px" class="nav" id="nav5" onmouseover="navon('5')" onmouseout="navoff('5')">link</td>
</tr>
</table>
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" align="center">
<tr>
<td width="70%">
some content
</td>
<td width="30%">
some more content
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
</body>
</html>

Code:

@charset "utf-8";
/* CSS Document */

body {
	padding-right: 4%;
	padding-left: 4%;
	padding-top: 30px;
	padding-bottom: 30px;
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 14px;
	letter-spacing: 0.1em;
	color: #000000;
	background-color: #EEEEEE;
}
a:link {
	color: #000000;
	text-decoration: none;
}
a:visited {
	color: #000000;
	text-decoration: none;
}
a:active {
	color: #000000;
	text-decoration: none;
}
a:hover {
	color: #000000;
	text-decoration: underline;
}
.main {
	background:#FFFFFF;
	border: 10px solid #36393D;
	width: 89%;
	padding: 5%;
}
.nav {
	padding: 8px;
	background-color: #C3D9FF;
	vertical-align: middle;
	text-align: center;
	font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 24px;
	color: #36393D;
	cursor:pointer;
	border: 2px solid #36393D;
}

I am desperate. I think I found a bug in Firefox, and I'm not sure how to work around it.

The following code works in everything (IE 8, Chrome, Safari, Opera) except Firefox (version 3.6.3). Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug in Firefox?

You can look what happens to the drop-down menu's on Menu 2 and 3 live by going to my site (deenfoxx dot com slash firefox-bug dot html).

css Code:
Original - css Code #main-nav { background-color: black; height: 40px; } #nav { position: relative; margin: 0; padding: 0; } #nav li { position: relative; float: left; display: table; width: 99px; height: 40px; border-right: 1px solid white; text-align: center; font-size: 10px; } #nav li:hover { background-color: darkred; } #nav a { display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle; line-height: 11px; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; color: #fff; } #nav li ul { position: absolute; padding: 0; background-color: gray; top: 40px; left: 0px; } #nav li ul li { width: 98px; border: 0; border-top: 1px solid white; }

  

 #main-nav


 {


     background-color: black;


     height: 40px;


 }


 #nav


 {


     position: relative;


     margin: 0;


     padding: 0;


 }


 #nav li


 {


     position: relative;


     float: left;


     display: table;


     width: 99px;


     height: 40px;


     border-right: 1px solid white;


     text-align: center;


     font-size: 10px;


 }


 #nav li:hover


 {


     background-color: darkred;


 }


 #nav a


 {


     display: table-cell;


     vertical-align: middle;


     line-height: 11px;


     font-weight: bold;


     text-decoration: none;


     color: #fff;


 }


 #nav li ul


 {


     position: absolute;


     padding: 0;


     background-color: gray;


     top: 40px;


     left: 0px;


 }


 #nav li ul li


 {


     width: 98px;


     border: 0;


     border-top: 1px solid white;


 } 

html4strict Code:
Original - html4strict Code <div id="main-nav"> <ul id="nav"> <li id="m1"><a href="#1">Main Menu 1</a></li> <li> <a href="#2">Main Menu 2</a> <ul> <li><a href="#2a">Sub-Category 1</a></li> <li><a href="#2b">Sub-Category<br/>with multiple lines</a></li> </ul> </li> <li> <a href="#3">Main Menu 3 with multiple lines</a> <ul> <li><a href="#3a">Sub-Category 2</a></li> </ul> </li> <li><a href="#4">Main Menu item which has a really long name on it</a></li> </ul> </div>

  

 <div id="main-nav">


     <ul id="nav">


         <li id="m1"><a href="#1">Main Menu 1</a></li>


         <li>


             <a href="#2">Main Menu 2</a>


             <ul>


                 <li><a href="#2a">Sub-Category 1</a></li>


                 <li><a href="#2b">Sub-Category<br/>with multiple lines</a></li>


             </ul>


         </li>


         <li>


             <a href="#3">Main Menu 3 with multiple lines</a>


             <ul>


                 <li><a href="#3a">Sub-Category 2</a></li>


             </ul>


         </li>


         <li><a href="#4">Main Menu item which has a really long name on it</a></li>


     </ul>


 </div> 

The problem appears to be that "#nav li" happens to have position:relative; and a display:table; and "#nav li ul" is position:absolute;. Normally, absolute positioning requires its parent or ancestor position to be set, but when used with the table display, it doesn't work normally on Firefox--but it does on other browsers.

Can someone help me with a workaround that does not involve altering the HTML? If I must, I will accept a workaround that requires changing the HTML, but I'll have to do some heavy duty recoding of Magento's core menu generation. Anyone that knows Magento knows I want to avoid that like the plague--my example is a very simplified version of the problem.

I'm having an issue where a website is showing up a few pixels off in Mac Firefox than it is in PC firefox. Anyone have a quick fix for this?

Mac Screenshots: http://graffetto.com/chops/clairus_screens.pdf

PC Firefox Screenshot:


Firefox, IE, and Netscape all look identical on PC, while firefox, IE and safari look identical on Mac, but different from PC (except safari - messed up text)

Any help is greatly appreciated

Edit: after reviewing my post I realized I was quite vague. What I'm looking for is a way to filter CSS so that only Mac Firefox users will receive one CSS file, and PC users will receive another.

I am looking for advice on replacing a table layout (for form layout) with a CSS design. The purpose is to put together a PHP class that auto-generates forms so that the structure of the forms, is under control of an admin interface though an API. The problem is, that many of the clients that I do work for are very particular about the layout. In other words city, state and zip code must all be on one line, but phone number must have a row to itself, etc., etc.. The form must look exactly like the paper version.

Generating a good looking form through an API using a table layout where i have to worry about column spans and so forth, is not something I am looking forward to. I would like to use a CSS layout instead. What is the best way to coax divs to work in the same way table cells and rows do and still deal with any goofy IE CSS quirks?

Hi everyone,

Dont actually know if this is possible (my css knowledge is way not what it should be!)

Can I define a whole set of attriblutes for a table (fonts, links, hover links etc etc) and than just use it with

<table class = "whatever"> etc

and then that table will have all the properties I defined (for only that table, not for the rest of the page)

if so how could I go about doing that.

Any help is very appreciated!

cheers

Hello everybody,

I am new to the forum and also a newbie to webdesign! I am hoping that somebody wants to help me out as
I am trying to put the design of a table and the font used in CSS. I am trying to create a new table class out of:

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" class="tekst6" bgcolor="#E6373D">
(tekst6 = FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: #ffffff; )

How do I do this? Many many thanks in advance for your help!

Regards
Buzzman

Hi

I would like to replace the tables that make up my page with CSS.

I have a header, footer, left column and the main body.

Do you know of a link to a tutorial that can help. Or perhaps you know the CSS code.

Any pointers gratefully received..

Hey Guys,

Hope you are all OK! I've been away abroad for a bit and now its back the the manic life here

Has anyone got any good examples of creating pretty tables using CSS?

I am ideally looking to to something that maybe has alternate colors on Columns and rows and changing colors where they cross?>!? or something equally as good for looking at data!

Any links to examples would be great!

Charlie

Hello all,

I have a site which I am working on right now and there is going to be text on the right side, and 3 rows on the right which on the top there will be a page banner, on bottom, just a picture, and i want to repeat the background colors on the other side. Kind of confusing to explain but he brandyn.garlic.com/headstart/aboutus.html

Thats a page on the site, as you can see, there is a blank spot where I want a background to repeat but the size will obviously vary by the size of the content on the right. If someone could assist me with that, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you,

Brandyn

For some reason the following HTML & CSS code do not render the same result as the code listed below it:

CSS - Attached Style sheet
Code:

td.style1{
  background-color: #FFFFFF;
  border-top: 1px solid #AAAAAA;
  border-right: 1px solid #000000;
  border-bottom: 1px solid #000000;
  border-left: 1px solid #AAAAAA;
}

HTML Code
Code:

<table>
  <tr>
    <td class="style1">Some content to display</td>
  </tr>
</table>

HTML (Intended display)
Code:

<table>
  <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAAAAA; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">Some content to display</td>
  </tr>
</table>

Why wouldn't any browser follow the CSS in the stylesheet?

I am curious how important it is to use CSS for tables these days? I am a more of a PHP developer but have been using HTML tables for my applications since I don't do anything fancy on the front-end.

I am asking because I am planning to start work on an open source project. While the project itself is intended to be used inhouse for companies and not on the Internet, it would still be nice to know if CSS or HTML tables could affect it in positive or negative ways. Thanks.

Hi,
how can I draw these borders to a table using css?

Thank you!