CSS - Margins / Top Inconsistent
Hey, I am currently learning how to do layouts in pure CSS and am running into a few problems. Some of these i've cleared up, but i'm still learning obviously. My currently issue is that margin / top settings are not consistent throughout browsers.
Example: in FF/Mozilla a margin setting or "top" pixel setting is "lower" than in IE. The reason for this is, apparantly, when margins are set to zero my lower div table actually rides up "under" the above div's bottom border, this creates an offset of 5 pixels when setting margins, etc. Whereas, in IE, the div sits directly beneath the 5px border, as I would assume it should. Here are the files i'm using: 1) Webpage: http://www.binjured.com/index2.php 2) CSS File: http://www.binjured.com/style2.css important css (as i see it) a #nav, .top, .main (these are all near the bottom of the file, if you wish to skip extraneous code). I am trying to understand WHY css does the things it does and how I can make it do the right thing. Any help would be extremely appreciated. Finally, there may be some extraneous code that those who know css, know does nothing. It's in there because I am trying to "debug" it but i'm completely lost for the answer now . Similar TutorialsHi! Could some experienced CSS developer please confirm this: All paddings, and right and left margins, always combine (what I mean is if you have a left object with a 5px right margin and a right object with a 5px left margin, the distance between the two will be 10px). However, bottom & top margins never combine. Is all this true? I am having a problem where I have a <div> that holds my body image, margin: 0 auto; Inside that is my content <div> with margin:15px; but this is visually dropping the background image's margin by 15px. The problem compounds every time I add another margin/padding requirement into the rest of the <div>. Code: html, body { margin:0px; padding:0px; background-image:url(images/interface/background.png); } #body_image { width:935; margin:0 auto; padding:0px; background-image:url(images/interface/body.png); background-repeat:no-repeat; background-position:center; } #container { width:904px; height:750px; margin:15px; } #slug { height:15px; } Code: <div id="body_image"> <div id="container"> <div id="header">Header</div> <div id="nav">Nav</div> <div id="sidebar">Sidebar</div> <div id="content">Content</div> <div id="footer">Footer</div> </div> </div> The extent of my CSS is a few tutorials online and the class I took 10 years ago where the teacher said "Here's CSS, you can't do much more than change your font size and color with it... on to tables!" Thought it'd only be fair to give you a little background. when i dont turn of cache in IE my website seems to forget some css rules half of the time its really annoying cause i only see it when i browse the site on the server not local...and only when caching is turned on i use the equal heights columns technique from positioniseverything.net the site having the problem is here the problem is visible on the home page....i think around 1/5th of the clicks... then the link in the top left content box that should be absolute; bottom:0; just crawls up to the text.... like my question is WHY?? does it only do it sometimes Can someone look at my site at http://www.personalhurricanecenter.....com/index.php? using Internet Explorer? The problem is that on the initial load, the background of the main section (white in the middle) is fine, even though I had to drop the padding to 3em. You'll notice if you minimize and then maximize the window, resize it, or click on the "submit" button on the upper-right (which will redirect you back to this page) that the background turns blue. If you scroll down, then the lower portion is white. If you scroll back up, the background miraculously turns white again. But the section that remains visible during scrolling stays blue. Also, you can select the text in the blue and then deselect it and it'll be white! This does not occur in Netscape or Firefox. Can someone tell me what in the world is the deal? I've spent a week getting this layout set so I can move on and it's holding me up. Thanks. Tim P.S. I have my background color set to blue in the body section of my css, and the main background color set to white. Those are the only bg color configurations (except for link options). Hi, i have a weird problem when trying to set the background-color of a table using css. If i use the following code the table / cell displays fine: Code: .tabletop { border-width:1px 0px 0px 0px; border-style:solid; border-color:#666666; background-color:#8C9DA9; width:600px; } ...there is a 1px border at the top, and the background is coloured in. But if i remove the border, and just leave in the background colour like: Code: .tabletop { background-color:#8C9DA9; width:600px; } ...the background is no longer coloured! Can anyone explain why this is please? Cheers Hello! I'm pretty new to CSS and to this forum, but I am having a problem with my website. My layout uses a centered content div using auto margins and all the positioning in the layout is done using relative positioning. The centered content div is 800px wide and is supposed to be centered in every page on the site. However, when I switch between certain pages on the site, I'll notice that the content div will shift a bit to the left. I've tried to trouble shoot this many times and can't seem to figure out what the problem is. Does anyone know how I can fix this? I wanted to post the website so you could see an example of the problem, but I'm not allowed to do so. It's not for self-promotion just so I can fix a problem. Anyway hopefully someone can help without seeing the site. Thanks! Hi All, This seems to be a bit of a recurring problem for me in a lot of the new CSS designs I'm trying... but it seems that IE interprets both padding and margins differently than how firefox interprets them. Sometimes it seems to do it the same, and other times differently. Take a look at this: http://zeroonedesign.com/beta/newsite/index.html CSS he http://zeroonedesign.com/beta/newsite/style.css Now look at it first in Firefox (the desired effect) and then in IE. IE seems to be incapable of understanding this particular piece of the code Code: #menu {padding-top:140px;text-align:left;padding-left:38px;} #menu ul{margin:0px;} #menu ul li{display:inline;margin-right:10px;padding:5px 7px 5px 7px;color:#fff;} #menu ul li a{color:#fff;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;} #menu ul li a:hover{color:#fff;font-size:10pt;border-bottom:3px solid #fff;} #menu ul li a.selected{color:#f88000;font-size:10pt;border-bottom:2px solid #f88000;} Ideas? Help? I know the box model is different for IE than it is for FF but I've tried the box model hack and it doesn't seem to do anything. according to the css 2.1 spec if you specify the margin/padding of an element in ems then it takes the measurement from that element's font size, this means that * { font size: 1em; } h1 { font-size: 1.5em; margin-bottom: 1em; } gives h1 a margin of ... 1.5em ... which sucks. and is counter intuitive IMO. how is one supposed to go about having fixed margin spaces when using scalable fonts? now i know that margins overlap so theoretically setting p { margin-top: 1em; } instead would work, but only where a p lies under a h1. if i had a h1 then a h2 then a p then how large would the gap be between the h1 and the h2? and how would i control that reliably? the only way around this i can think of is this * { font-size: 1em; /*let's say this equates to 10px on the device it's being viewed on*/ } h1 { font-size: 1.5em; /*...then this would be 15px*/ margin-bottom 0.67em; /*..this would be 67% of 15px = 10px!*/ } h2 { font-size: 1.2em; /*12px*/ margin-bottom: 0.83em; /*83% of 12px = ... 10px!*/ } p { margin-botton: 1em; } Now, when i scale the font size all the margins should scale in accordance with the <p>. at least, according to my understanding of the spec. i'll try it in the next couple of hours (first thing monday morning just got to work)... anyone else thought of a scalable friendly alternative? I thought I had this worked out before with the help of this forum, but it seems to be back again! In IE 6 (and maybe others, who knows. I am running Ubuntu =/ ) there is a big gap between the top horizontal nav and the comic. http://www.jjsunshines.com/ Any help would be greatly appreciated! I'll even trade you php help! I am having a problem with negative margins in IE7. On my website: commentsandcapers I am trying to get IE7 to display the right two boxes in the same way that Firefox displays them?? I have tried a few thing including position: relative in a whole bunch of places, none of which works. Do any of you have any idea how to correct this problem? Thanks! Hey there. A friend of mine was giving me a hand with the coding for http://myspace.com/457343540 but unfortunately I can't get in contact with him atm, so I thought I'd as here. As you can see in the link provided, firefox display the margins I want, but IE throws them off a bit. I've tried a few different things, but after a couple hours I've given up trying on my own lol. Another issue is the page is obviously stretching off the page (?idk) as the scroll bar goes off the side. Code: <style> { Music Player Properties } .i {display:none;} table table td.text div object {position:absolute; top:1140px; left:50%; margin-left:-30px;} table table td.text div object object {position:static; margin-left:0px;} { Background Properties } table, tr, td { background-color:transparent; border:none; border-width:0;} body { background-color:000000; background-attachment:scroll; background-position:top center; background-repeat:no-repeat; background-image: url(http://bnesfinest.net/tomm/myspace/tioc/bg.jpg); border-top-width:0px; border-bottom-width:0px; border-left-width:0px; border-right-width:0px; border-color:none; border-style:solid; padding-left:0px; padding-right:0px;} .samohtlogo{ position:absolute; width: 100px; top: 20px; left: 20px; text-align: left; z-index: 10;} .menu{ width: 959px; height: 136px; position: absolute; top: 591px; z-index: 2; overflow: visible; margin-left: -480px; left: 50%;} .header { width: 959px; height: 422px; position: absolute; top: 169px; margin-left: -480px; z-index: 0; overflow: visible; left: 50%;} .memberstop { width: 959px; height: 403px; position: absolute; top: 727px; margin-left: -480px; z-index: 0; overflow: visible; left: 50%;} .thealbum{ width: 422px; height: auto; position: absolute; top: 1130px; z-index: 2; overflow: visible; margin-left: -480px; left: 50%;} .musicbg{ width: 541px; height: auto; position: absolute; top: 1130px; z-index: 0; overflow: visible; margin-left: -62px; left: 50%;} .shows{ width: 959px; height: auto; position: absolute; top: 1513px; z-index: 0; overflow: visible; margin-left: -480px; left: 50%;} .reverbshows{ width: 959px; height: auto; position: absolute; top: 1550px; z-index: 2; overflow: visible; margin-left: -445px; left: 50%;} .featvideo{ width: 959px; height: auto; position: absolute; top: 1535px; z-index: 2; overflow: visible; margin-left: -50px; left: 50%;} .R { Div Counter Acts } .friendSpace div { overflow:visible !important; height:auto !important; position:static !important; background:none !important; } .friendsComments div { overflow:visible !important; height:auto !important; position:static !important; width:auto !important; background:none !important; } html body.bodyContent table tbody tr td table.friendsComments tbody tr td.text table tbody tr td table tr td{ background-color: !important; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; overflow: visible !important; font-size: 11px !important; line-height: 12px !important; text-transform: none !important; text-align: justify; letter-spacing: 0px; color: e7e2c5!important; margin: 10px !important; padding: 20px 20px 12px 0px; border-bottom: 1px dotted dimgrey !important; border-color: 50433d!important; _line-height: 16px !important; } html body.bodyContent table tbody tr td table tbody tr td.text table.friendSpace tbody tr td.text table tbody tr td table tr td table tr td a{ width: 110px !important; overflow: hidden; letter-spacing: 0px; font-size: 10px !important; line-height: 12px; display: block; color:50433d!important; margin: 0 !important; padding: 0 !important; text-align: center !important; margin-left: 1px !important;} .friendSpace { position: absolute !important; z-index: 4 !important; width: 800px !important; margin-left: -320px; _margin-left: -400px; top: 0px !important; margin-top: 1860px !important; } .friendsComments { position: absolute !important; z-index: 6 !important; margin-left: -35px; _ margin-left: -400px; width: 833px !important; top: 0px !important; margin-top: 2755px !important; } .friendsComments a img {border: 3px; border-color: 50433d; border-style: solid;} .friendsComments table {width: 800px; align: justify; position:relative; left:0px; } .friendSpace a img {border: 4px; border-color: 50433d; border-style: solid;} </style> Hi All, I am very new to CSS and i am working on preparing a document of an existing CSS. Can someone tell me if the margins are set as this, margin:0px 31px 0px; Is it top,right and bottom? Thanks Prena I have a couple of problems. 1) I have an unwanted margin around my page. I have tried and searched everything I could to get rid of it and I cannot. Ca someone please explain why it is doing this? 2) No matter how hard I try, the Navigation list will not move to where I would like it to go (Centered in the grey area). What am I doing wrong? Code below html Code: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8" /> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="./CSS/style1.css" /> <title>Cakefaced - Miles out of the box</title> </head> <body> <div id="Banner" /> <div id="Logo" /> <div id="NaviRear" /> <ul class="NaviLink"> <li class="NaviLink"><a class="NaviLink" href="index.html">Home</a></li> <li class="NaviLink"><a class="NaviLink" href="index.html">Projects</a></li> <li class="NaviLink"><a class="NaviLink" href="index.html">Geuestbook</a></li> <li class="NaviLink"><a class="NaviLink" href="index.html">Profile</a></li> </ul> </div> <div id="Blog" /> <div id="Links" /> </body> </html> CSS: Code: @charset "utf-8"; /* CSS Document */ /*CSS Sheet Copyright(C) 2011 to Cakefaced.co.uk All Rights Reserved This style sheet cannot be used without permission from Cakefaced.co.uk Administrator */ /* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Begin Banner Styling ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- */ #Banner { background-image:url('../Images/BannerRear.jpg'); background-repeat:repeat-x; height:200px; margin:0; position:relative; } /* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End Banner Styling ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- */ /* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Begin Navigation Styling ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- */ #NaviRear { background-image:url('../Images/NaviBack.jpg'); background-repeat:repeat-x; top:150px; height:60px; margin:0; position:relative; } ul.NaviLink { list-style-type:none; margin:0; } li.NaviLink { display:inline; bottom: 10px; position:float; } a:link.NaviLink { font-size:1.875em; color:#000000; /* unvisited link */ font-family:"Arial Black", Gadget, sans-serif; } a:visited.NaviLink { color:#000000; /* visited link */ } a:hover.NaviLink { color:#FF00FF; /* mouse over link */ } /* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End Navigation Styling ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- */ Hello, I have been having some problems with ie and auto margins, In firefox my page shows perfectly, but in ie, the page hangs to the left only showing the default margin that ie gives you. I want the page to center in the middle. The link to the page is spanglerdesign.com/test/Mulligan1 Anyone know why the margins change on the links when I hover over them with IE. (check left column navigation) http://section31.us/temp/tortilla/tortilla.html Note: This works fine on firefox, but goes ape**** on IE. I've got two child divs nested in a parent div. They are shown below. The problem I am having is that in IE 5.x for Mac, the top margins do not work, while the left margins are applied properly. The following script works just fine in: safari, mozilla, firefox, opera, netscape, etc. It is only in IE for mac that the top margin is not applied and the two children are positioned improperly. If anyone knows of any fixes, hacks, or just sees some junk in my code, please let me know. All help is greatly appreciated! #parent { width: 700px; height: 66px; } #child1 { width: 288px; height: 56px; margin: 8px 0 0 10px; background-image: url(whatever); background-repeat: no-repeat; float: left; } #child2 { width: 115px; height: 40px; margin: 14px 0 0 165px; background-image: url(whatever); background-repeat: no-repeat; float: left; } Why doesn't the following code result in a blue border that is 10px wide? PHP Code: <Table> <tr> <td style="background-color: 0000FF;"> <Table> <tr> <td style="background-color: FF0000; padding: 10; margin: 10; border: 10px solid #00FF00;"> Test Font </td> </tr> </Table> </td> </tr> </Table> I'm working on a set of tabs within tabs (or subtabs). My code is something like this: Code: <ul class="tabs" <li class="selected">1</li> <li>2</li> <li>3</li> <li>4</li> </ul> <div class="tab_content"> <ul class="subtabs"> <li class="selected">1</li> <li>2</li> <li>3</li> <li>4</li> <li>5</li> <li>6</li> </ul> Now, "tab_content" has padding of 10px, because the subtabs won't always be there. But I don't want the padding on the subtabs, so I was giving them a negative margin of -10px. This works in all browsers but IE, which applies everything but the right margin, leaving a white gap. See the image I'm attaching to see what the problem looks like. Anyone know of easy fixes for this? 'Ello, I have a slight problem with some CSS I am using, it works perfectly fine in other browsers but in IE 6 it doesn't. What I basically want is the body of the page to have a 10pixel margin on the left and right of the page and 0 at the top and bottom, this bit I can do. I also want everything on the page to stretch from the end of each margin (so they basically start 10 pixels in from the left and 10 pixels in from the right), which I have got working fine. Now what I am trying to do is have one div layer stretching from the very left to the very right of the page and I am getting a bit stuck on it. What I have managed to do is set that div layer to be absolute positioning so I can use "left: 0px;" to get it all the way up against the left hand edge, but how can I get it right up against the left hand edge? I am sure if I set it to be the width of the page so for example if the page is 500 pixels wide and I use "width: 500px;" it would go from end to end, but what I want is it to go from end to end no matter what the width of the window is. For the rest of the layers that are not going from end to end but are staying within the body margins I used "width: 100%;" which works fine, but when I try it with the one that I want to go from end to end it only goes up to the body margin, but right to the end, well in IE it does anyway other browsers are fine with it. Does anyone know how to get around this? I have tried looking on the net but I can't find anything on it. All help will be greatly welcome. Thank you in advance, El Barto. |