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I moved internal css to an external file and then linked the page to that file and lost my hand cursor on links. How do i get it back. Right now the arrow cursor remains when links are rolled over. Can be viewed at.

kopertone.com/newsite/index1.html

Also, in fire fox, I want dotted lines under my text links when rolled over, but not image links; how do I remove the dotted lines under my image links? Thanks!

I've tried to insert a horizontal drop down CSS menu in my layout. However, the menu bar displays about 10 pixels lower in Firefox than it does in IE.

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I checked the margins, padding but can not seem to find a way to get the menu to display at the same position in both browsers.

Any guidance is very appreciated. thanks.

My first post.... ok... First I would like to say THANK YOU to anyone who has time to bestow some knowledge to me on what I am sure is a highly noob-esqe situation. I would also like to say that I have thoroughly search this and other forums for my issue, unfortunately I dont think I understand CSS or any web design enough to comprehend the solutions given. I think this may require someone with the knowledge I lack to come down to my level... if you can bend that low.. and walk me thru layman term-style. Again thanks in advance for anytime spent helping out.

That being said

I was recently trying to jazz up my website that is hosted by a certain music community. I do a decent amount of business thru this site so I wanted to step up the interface a little and get away from using the standard page setup they give you. They do offer the option to edit CSS to construct your own for a little more customization. I jumped in, and after a few days of struggling, I got it looking how I wanted it. I was excited until I realized it looked different on almost every computer i visited the site on. My Background is fine, but the links to paypal and other content is all over the place(e.g. song player, twitter link, buttons) I have tweaked and tweaked, but have not been able to remedy this apparently common problem due to my lack of knowledge and experience. My only hope is to post the coding here and have a Smart Guy/Girl guide me in the right direction. I hope Im not asking too much guys... here goes

(I know I can post my url here, how can I redirect you guys to veiw my site??)


/********* SoundClick CSS Template (based on custom version Mon, Sep 28 2009) ***********/
Quote:
/* general */
body {background: url((MyBGJPEGforbackground)); margin:0px;}
body,div,tr,td,select,textarea,input,option {font-family:Verdana; font-size:11px;}
a, a:link, a:visited {color:white; text-decoration:none;}
a:hover {color:#ff0000; text-decoration:underline;}
.pageFooter {clear:both; color:gray; padding:1px 0px 50px 20px;}
.infoBox {width:650px; margin:50px auto; background:white; color:black; border:silver solid 1px; padding:30px; font-size:14px;} /* hardly used, its for error messages to user */
.infoBox .quotes {margin:20px; border:#4b4b4b dashed 1px; font-style:italic; padding:10px; background:;}

/* main containers */
.mainTable {background: url((MainTableBGPicWentHere)) ; color:#999999; width:750px; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; text-align:center;}
.mainContent {background:url(/images/siteNav/transbgblocks/black/bg_0.png); color:#999999; width:725px; float:left; overflow:hidden; margin:0px 0px 20px 5px;} /* IE6 doesnt support our preferred overflow:visible */

/* left navigation */
.navigation {background:url(/images/siteNav/transbgblocks/black/bg_0.png); color:white; width:300px; float:left; overflow:hidden; margin:10px 0px 20px 0px;}
.navigation a:link, .navigation a:visited {color:#999999;}
.navigation a:hover {color:#ffffff;}
.navigationDivider {height:6px; line-height:6px; border-bottom:#232323 dashed 1px; margin-bottom:6px;}

/* general elements */
.headline {background:transparent; color:transparent; font-weight:bold; border-bottom:transparent dashed 0px; border-top:transparent solid 0px; padding:330px 1px 50px 50px;}
.headlineBig {font-size:22px; font-weight:normal;}
.headlineSuppl {float:right; margin:0px 0px 0px 100px; color:#666666; font-size:11px; font-weight:normal;} /* for text/links on the right side of main headline (e.g. song count on main page) */
.headlineSuppl a:link, .headlineSuppl a:visited {color:#666666; text-decoration:none;}
.headlineSuppl a:hover {color:black; text-decoration:underline;}
.pageturner {background:; color:#cccccc; border:#4b4b4b solid 1px; text-align:right; padding:10px; font-size:13px; font-weight:normal;} /* pages menu (previous, next..), e.g. on music page, message board */
.pageturner .nonactive {color:#666666;}
.pageturner a:link, .pageturner a:visited {color:#cccccc; text-decoration:none;}
.pageturner a:hover {color:#ff0000; text-decoration:underline;}
.listedPicsBox {border:#4b4b4b solid 1px; width:114px; height:160px; overflow:hidden; padding:2px 1px 4px 1px; margin:0px 4px 10px 4px; float:left; font-size:11px; text-align:center;}
.listedPics {width:110px; height:125px; background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat; margin:2px 0px 4px 0px; overflow:hidden}
.breaker {height:1px; line-height:1px; clear:both}

/* general color and font assets */
.color_supplemental {color:#666666;} /* used e.g. for song pages comments count */
.alternateBG0 {background:none;} /* used as background colors for comments */
.alternateBG1 {background:none;} /* alternate color */

/* main page (the default entry page) */
.mainContent .contHeadline {clear:left; font-size:16px; color:#cccccc; padding:1px 0px 2px 20px;} /* interview questions */
.mainContent .contText {clear:left; padding-left:15px;}
.mainContent .contInterview {clear:left; padding-left:30px;}
.mainContent .newsBox {clear:both; background:transparent; color:white; border:transparent solid 0px; margin:6px 20px 0px 20px; padding:100px;}

/* main page: video box (different from video page) */
.videoBox_mainPage {padding:5px; margin:0px 100px 20px 100px;}
.videoBox_mainPage .video {padding:5px; margin-bottom:10px;}
.videoBox_mainPage .title {font-size:15px; text-align:center; margin-bottom:3px;}
.videoBox_mainPage .shareLinks {float:right; padding:2px; border-bottom:#4b4b4b dashed 1px;}
.videoBox_mainPage .labels {color:#666666; width:100px; padding-right:20px; text-align:right; float:left;}
.videoBox_mainPage .info {padding-left:120px;}
.videoBox_mainPage a:link, .videoBox_mainPage a:visited {font-size:13px; font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none;}
.videoBox_mainPage a:hover {text-decoration:underline;}

/* main page: upcoming shows */
.liveshowsBox {background:#cccccc; color:#000000; width:300px; margin:15px 2px 15px 10px; float:right; clear:right;}
.liveshowsItems {padding:4px 0px 0px 0px; font-size:11px; clear:both;}
.liveshowsBox a:link, .liveshowsBox a:visited {color:#000000; text-decoration:none;}
.liveshowsBox a:hover {color:#666666; text-decoration:underline; cursorointer;}

/* main page: standard song box on artist page (only this song box or the embedded player is used. Never both together) */
.playerBox {float:left; clear:left; padding-left:20px; margin:300px 0px 100px 0px;}
.playerBox .playerHead {background:#000000; color:#cccccc; border-top:#4b4b4b solid 1px; border-bottom:#4b4b4b solid 1px; text-align:right; font-size:13px; padding:3px 5px 3px 3px;}
.playerBox .playerHead a:link,.playerBox .playerHead a:visited {color:#666666; text-decoration:underline;}
.playerBox .playerHead a:hover {color:#ffffff; text-decoration:underline;}
.playerBox .songBox {background:#cccccc; border-bottom:#4b4b4b solid 1px; width:330px; padding:100px 0px 0px 1px; overflow:auto;}
.playerBox .songBox .singleSong {color:#000000; font-size:13px; padding:1px;}
.playerBox .songBox .singleSong:hover {background:#000000; color:#cccccc; cursorointer;}

/* main page: VIP embedded player (only this embedded player or the standard song box is used. Never both together) */
.embeddedPlayer {margin:1px auto; width:750px;}

/* main page: tabbed content headers (fans,stations) */
.tabbedCont_header li a:link, .tabbedCont_header li a:visited {background:#000000; color:#666666; text-decoration:none; margin:0px 20px 0px 0px; padding:3px 6px 3px 6px; border:#666666 solid 1px; border-bottom:none; }
.tabbedCont_header li a:hover {color:white;}
.tabbedCont_header li.selected a:link, .tabbedCont_header li.selected a:visited {background:#111111; color:#999999; border:#111111 solid 1px; border-top:#999999 solid 1px; font-weight:bold;}

/* main page: fans, stations (tabbed content) */
.fansBox {padding:30px 20px 20px 20px; clear:both;}
.fansBox a:link, .fansBox a:visited {}
.fansBox a:hover {}
.fancount {background:#111111; color:#666666; text-align:right; padding:3px 5px; margin-bottom:8px; font-size:11px; font-weight:normal; border-bottom:#232323 dashed 1px; border-top:#222222 solid 1px; }
.fancount a:link, .fancount a:visited {color:#B8B8B8; text-decoration:none;}
.fancount a:hover {color:#E6E6E6; text-decoration:none;}
.fansBox_content {background:url(/images/siteNav/transbgblocks/black/bg_20.png) important; background:#111111;}
.fansBoxLastLine {background:#111111; color:#666666; clear:both; text-align:right; padding:3px 5px; margin-top:8px; font-size:11px; font-weight:normal; border-bottom:#222222 solid 1px; border-top:#232323 dashed 1px;}
.fansBoxLastLine a:link, .fansBoxLastLine a:visited {color:#B8B8B8; text-decoration:none;}
.fansBoxLastLine a:hover {color:#E6E6E6; text-decoration:none;}
.stationItem {clear:both; color:black; border-bottom:#4b4b4b dashed 1px; padding:0px 1px 0px 1px;}
.stationPicBox {float:left;}
.stationPics {width:70px; height:70px; background-position:center center; background-repeat: no-repeat; margin:0px 0px 1px 0px; overflow:hidden}
.stationButtonsBox {float:left; padding:2px 15px 0px 5px; height:60px;}
.stationsText {color:#999999; height:80px; overflow:hidden;}
.stationlink a:link, .stationlink a:visited {color:#999999; font-size:16px; text-decoration:none;}
.stationlink a:hover {color:#ff0000; text-decoration:underline;}

/* music page */
.songsBox {border-bottom:#4b4b4b dashed 1px; width:510px; float:left; padding-bottom:2px; margin-bottom:10px;}
.songsBox a:link, .songsBox a:visited {text-decoration:none;}
.songsBox a:hover {text-decoration:underline;}
a.songtitle:link, a.songtitle:visited {color:#999999; text-decoration:none; font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;}
a.songtitle:hover {color:#ff0000; text-decoration:underline;}
.songsBox .actionlinks {font-size:14px;} /* the links for full song info, add to station, rate this song... */
.songsBox .topSong {color:#666666; float:left; text-align:left; font-size:13px;}

/* comments page */
.commentsWelcome {background:; color:#cccccc; margin:0px 20px 20px 20px; padding:20px; border:#4b4b4b solid 1px;}
.commentsBox {border-bottom:#4b4b4b dashed 1px; padding-top:5px;}
.commentsBox a:link, .commentsBox a:visited {text-decoration:none;}
.commentsBox a:hover {text-decoration:underline;}
.commentsBox .songComment {border-bottom:#4b4b4b dashed 1px; font-size:11px; padding:1px 3px; margin-bottom:5px;}
.commentsBox .postdate {color:#666666; font-size:13px; font-weight:normal; text-align:right; margin:0px 5px 10px 0px;}
.commentsBox .postdate a:link, .commentsBox .postdate a:visited {text-decoration:none;} /* for delete/edit links */
.commentsBox .postdate a:hover {text-decoration:underline;}
.commentsBox .comment {font-size:14px; padding:0px 5px 0px 140px;}
.commentsBox .bandSignature {border-top:#4b4b4b dashed 1px; color:#666666; width:310px; margin-top:15px; line-height:20px;}
.commentsBox .ratingsBox {float:right; width:220px; border-left:#4b4b4b dashed 1px; margin-bottom:10px;}
.ratingsBox .label {width:115px; text-align:right; float:left; padding-right:20px;} /* also used for .commentsPostBox .ratingsBox */
.commentsPostBox {padding:10px; margin:20px 0px; background:#FFCC99; color:#000000; border-top:black solid 2px; border-bottom:black solid 1px;}
.commentsPostBox .ratingsBox {background:#ECECEC; color:#000000; clear:both; padding:7px 0px; margin:0px 250px 20px 30px;}

/* video page */
.videoBox {background:black; color:#E0E0E0; padding:5px; line-height:22px;}
.videoBox .video {padding:20px; margin-bottom:10px;}
.videoBox .title {text-align:center; background:#121212; color:#F3F3F3; font-size:16px; padding:1px;}
.videoBox .labels {color:#666666; width:200px; padding-right:20px; text-align:right; float:left;}
.videoBox .info {float:left; width:440px;}
.videoBox a:link, .videoBox a:visited {color:#0099CC; text-decoration:none; font-size:11px;}
.videoBox a:hover {color:red; text-decoration:underline;}
.videoListBox {border-top:#4b4b4b dashed 1px;}

/* photo pages */
.photopage {background:black;}
.selectedPhoto_box {text-align:center;}
.selectedPhoto_box .selPhoto_title {background:#111111; color:#cccccc; border-bottom:#666666 solid 1px; font-size:15px; padding:4px;}
.photolist {padding:10px 0px 0px 30px;}
.photolist .photobox {background:none; float:left; width:118px; height:180px; margin:5px 0px 20px 10px; padding:5px 0px 10px 0px; overflow:hidden; cursorointer; text-align:center;}
.photobox .photo {height:150px; width:118px; overflow:hidden;}
.photobox .photoComment {color:#444444; font-size:11px;}
.photolist .photobox_on {background:#222222; float:left; width:118px; height:180px; margin:5px 0px 20px 10px; padding:5px 0px 10px 0px; overflow:hidden; cursorointer; text-align:center;}
.photobox_on .photo {height:150px; width:118px; overflow:hidden;}
.photobox_on .photoComment {color:#999999; font-size:11px;}

/* reviews page */
.reviewsBox {padding:10px 30px; border-bottom:#4b4b4b dashed 1px;}
.reviewsBox .rev_headline {color:#cccccc; font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;}
.reviewsBox .rev_text {padding:5px 5px 5px 30px; font-size:14px;}
.reviewsBox .rev_source {text-align:right; font-size:13px; color:#666666;}

/* licensing page */
.licenseSummary {margin:0px 20px 20px 20px; padding:20px; background:; color:#cccccc; border:#4b4b4b solid 2px;}
.licenses {margin-top:70px;}
.licenses .headline {font-size:14px;}
.lic_tableSongs {border:none;}
.lic_tableSongs .columnHeaders td {border-bottom:#4b4b4b solid 1px; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px;}
.lic_tableSongs tr td {border-bottom:#4b4b4b dashed 1px; padding:5px 0px;}

/* widgets page */
.widgetMargin { padding:8px 0px 8px 35px;}
.widgetSpacer {width:100; height:15px; clear:both;}

/* tag cloud */
.tagCloud {padding:10px;}
.tagCloud .cloudItem {float:left; padding:2px; white-space:nowrap; margin:0 6px 0 0;}
.tagCloud .cloudItem:hover {background:#005782; color:white; cursorointer;}
.tagCloud .cloudS10 {font-size:10px; color:#aaaaaa;}
.tagCloud .cloudS20 {font-size:11px; color:#aaaaaa;}
.tagCloud .cloudS30 {font-size:11px; color:#999999;}
.tagCloud .cloudS40 {font-size:12px; color:#999999;}
.tagCloud .cloudS50 {font-size:14px; color:#666666;}
.tagCloud .cloudS60 {font-size:16px; color:#666666;}
.tagCloud .cloudS70 {font-size:18px; color:#333333;}
.tagCloud .cloudS80 {font-size:22px; color:#333333;}
.tagCloud .cloudS90 {font-size:28px; color:#111111; }
.tagCloud .cloudS100 {font-size:36px; color:#111111;}
.tagCloudMore {padding:6px 0 0 0; margin:0 10px; text-align:center; border-top:#ccc solid 1px; font-size:11px;}
.tagCloudMore a, .tagCloudMore a:link, .tagCloudMore a:visited {color:#999; text-decoration:none;}
.tagCloudMore a:hover {color:red; text-decoration:underline; cursorointer;}

Hi guys

Please help me out.

This webpage should look like this:


But in some browsers the photograph (bottom right hand floating DIV with background image) does not load!

WHY?!

Thanks!

I am having problem making this cross browser friendly



Code:

/* Div Structure */

#heading { 
margin: 0;
position: relative;
top: -20px;
background-color:#0066CC;
}

#search { 
float: left;



}


#img {
float:left;
}

#text {
float:right;
}

#phone {

position: relative ;
float: right ;
top: 15px ;
right: 10px


}


#head {
margin: 5px ;
padding: 0; 
height: 195px;
background-color: #FDFCFF;
border: solid;
border-color: #0066CC; 
border-width: 2px; 
background-color: #FDFCFF;
}



#headnav {
float: right ;
margin: 100px 17px 5px 10px; 
padding: 0;
}

#sidebar {
float: left ;
background-color:#FDFCFF;
border-width:2px;
border-style:solid;
border-color: #0066CC;
padding: 10px;
width: 170px;
margin: 2px;
margin-top: 5px;
height: 530px ; 
}

#mainpage { 
float: right; 
position:relative; 
width: 730px ; 
right:  -5px; 
left: -5px;
border: solid;
border-color: #0066CC; 
border-width: 2px; 
background-color: #FDFCFF;

margin-top: 5px;



}

/* Side Bar */

	#sidebar h3 {
		color:black; 
		font-size: 11px;
		font-weight: normal;
		letter-spacing: 0.2em;
		margin: 5px;
		padding: 0px;
		text-transform: uppercase;
		border-bottom:dashed;
		border-bottom-color:black;
		border-width: 1px;
		}
		
	#sidebar ul, #sidebar ol {
		list-style: none;
		margin: 0;
		padding: 0;
	
		
		
		}
		
		
		
	
	
	#sidebar li {

		margin: 0;
		list-style:none;
		padding: 0;
		font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
		font-size:12px;
		}
		
	#sidebar a {
		color: #9999FF;
		text-decoration:none;
		}
		
	#sidebar a:hover {
	color: black;
	text-decoration:underline;

	}
		
	#sidebar div { 
		margin: 20px 0;
		padding: 0;
		}
/* Header Style */ 

	#head h1  {
	font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif ;
	letter-spacing: 0.5em;
	font-size: 2em;
	color: black;
	
	}
	#head a { 
	color: black; 
	text-decoration: none;
	}
	
	
/* Head Nav */ 

	
	#headnav a  { 
	color: black; 
	text-decoration:none; 
	}
	#headnav a:hover { 
	text-decoration:underline;
	}
	
	#headnav p { 
	color:black; 
	font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size:0.1em;
	
	}

/* Main Page */ 

	#mainpage img { 
	padding: 10px;
	}
	
	#mainpage h2 { 
	font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; 
	color:black; 
	letter-spacing: 0.5em;
	font-style: bold ;
	border-bottom: solid;
	border-bottom-color:#0066CC;
	border-bottom-width: 2px;
	
	}
	#mainpage p {
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 12px;
	
	}
	
	#mainpage li { 
	font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 12px;
	
	} 
	
	#mainpage h3 { 
	font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; 
	border-bottom: dotted; 
	border-bottom-color: black;
	border-bottom-width: 1px ;
	latter-spacing: 0.2 em; 
	font-size:18px;
	}
	
	#mainpage a {
	color: #910B2D;
	text-decoration:none;
	}
	
	#mainpage a:hover {
	color:silver;
	text-decoration:underline;
	}
	
	/* Phone */ 
	
	#phone p { 
	color: black ;
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 18px ;

}

/* Heading's */ 

#heading h2 { 
color: white; 
}

Hello,

I'm confused about how exactly to name classes in a specific situation.
I'm getting unexpected results, and I'm not sure if it's browser support or my code.


Does

.classy a {
something: something;
}

describe all anchors nested in an element with the class "classy"?
Can I do that even?
Or is it the same as

.classy, a {
something: something;
}

To describe two things that both have the same styles.


Do I need comma's or is

.classy .classless {
something: something;
}

the same thing as

.classy, .classless {
something: something;
}


Thanks

grr.. i hate this thing... you know.. the different view in F/F and IE.. grrr i have this menu ( here ) when i view it in IE, its messed up.. but when i view it in F/F its not
Code:

/* -- Memu Css -- */

#navcontainer { 
    margin-left: 30px;
}

#navcontainer ul {
    margin:          0;
    padding:         0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-family:     verdana, arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}

#navcontainer li {
    margin: 0;
}

#navcontainer a {
    display:             block;
    padding:             5px 10px;
    width:               130px;
    color:               #000;
    background-color:    #ADC1AD;
    text-decoration:     none;
    border-top:          1px solid #fff;
    border-left:         1px solid #fff;
    border-bottom:       1px solid #333;
    border-right:        1px solid #333;
    font-weight:         bold;
    font-size:           .8em;
    background-image:    url(images/vertical06.jpg);
    background-repeat:   no-repeat;
    background-position: 0 0;
}

#navcontainer a:hover {
    color:               #000;
    background-color:    #889E88;
    text-decoration:     none;
    border-top:          1px solid #333;
    border-left:         1px solid #333;
    border-bottom:       1px solid #fff;
    border-right:        1px solid #fff;
    background-image:    url(images/vertical06a.jpg);
    background-repeat:   no-repeat;
    background-position: 0 0;
}

#navcontainer ul ul li { 
    margin:    0;
}

#navcontainer ul ul a {
    display:          block;
    padding:          5px 5px 5px 30px;
    width:            130px;
    color:            #000;
    background-color: #C5D8C5;
    text-decoration:  none;
    font-weight:      normal;
}

#navcontainer ul ul a:hover {
    color:            #000;
    background-color: #889E88;
    text-decoration:  none;
}

any help?

Can someone solve this issue for me, is this an IE6 bug that requires a workaround, or a dimwhitted designer who needs a new brain?

It works fine in FF, but displays 2 lists of buttons in IE6 (one below another in 2 rows)

This may be to do with my (currently very untidy) coding, or maybe it is a browser bug? Any ideas?

css:

#nav-menu ul {
font-family:Times New Roman, Arial;
font-size:12px;
list-style: none;
padding: 2px;
margin: 0;
position: absolute;
left:312px;
top:94px;
vertical-align:middle;
height: 29px;
display:inline;
}

#nav-menu li {
float: left;
margin: 0 2px;
padding: 0;
text-align: center
}

#nav-menu li a {
background-image:url(../img/btn.jpg);
height: 22px;
line-height: 22px;
float: left;
width: 75px;
display: inline;
color: #FFF;
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
vertical-align:middle;
}

#nav-menu li a:hover {
background-color:transparent;
height: 22px;
line-height: 22px;
float: left;
width:75px;
display: inline;
color: #036;
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
vertical-align:middle;
}

#nav-menu{
width:600px;
height:25px;

}


html:

<div id="nav-menu">
<ul name="navigation">
<li><a href="/xhtml/index.xhtml" target="_self">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="/xhtml/galleryindex.xhtml" target="_self">Gallery</a></li>
<li><a href="/xhtml/contact.xhtml" target="_self">Contact</a></li>
<li><a href="/xhtml/photog.xhtml" target="_self">Photog</a></li>
<li><a href="/xhtml/links.xhtml" target="_self">Links</a></li>
<li><a href="/xhtml/college.xhtml" target="_self">College</a></li>
</ul>
</div>

Sorry about the messiness of the code, but I have been ripping it to bits to try and sort this as fast as possible, it has me stumped now though, I keep confusing myself.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Thx in advance.

And here's the URL

www.markhankins.co.uk/fostek/test/index.html

Hi,
I haven't worked with CSS since before the whole Firefox craze and I'm having some compatibility issues when it comes to getting my website to work properly in both IE, Firefox and Safari.

I was able to achieve the perfect layout in IE but Firefox and Safari just throw it all out of whack. Are there way to ensure the same output (like linking to W3C or something) or perhaps I'm just doing something wrong. I've posted my code and you can see the difference I'm talking about in both browsers.

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />
<style type="text/css">
<!--

/* GRID PLACEMENT */

html, body {
	height:100%;
	text-align:center;
	margin:0;
	padding:0;
}

div {
	display:block;
}

div#holder {
	width:800px;
	height:100%;
	margin-left:auto;
	margin-right:auto;
}

div#links {
	width:inherit;
}

div#page {
	border:2px #4a86b2 solid;
	width:inherit;
	height:inherit;
	padding:1px;
}

div#page div {
	width:inherit;
}

div#header {
	height:75px;
}

div#divider {
	height:20px;
}

div#content {
	height:80%;
}

div.left {
	height:100%;
	float:left;
	width:180px;
	border:1px white solid;
}

div.right {
	height:100%;
	float:right;
	width:610px;
	border:1px white solid;
}

div#footer {
	height:20px;
	border:1px white solid;
}

/* GRID COLORS */
div#header, div#footer {
	background:#000066;
}

div#divider {
	background:#6392e6;
}

div#content div.left {
	background:#a5be00;
	
}


-->
</style>
</head>
<body>

<div id="holder">
	<div id="links">1</div>
	<div id="page">
		<div id="header">
			<div class="left">1</div>
			<div class="right">1</div>
		</div>
		<div id="divider">
			<div class="left">1</div>
			<div class="right">1</div>
		</div>
		<div id="content">
			<div class="left">1</div>
			<div class="right">1</div>
		</div>
		<div id="footer">1</div>
	</div>
</div>

</body>
</html>

Fist of all, i am fairly new to css, so all my code is probably somewhat incorrect.

My problem is with my nav bar. I can get it to work with FF and IE, but not both at the same time.
Here is the my website : http://www.thekiwieffect.com/

The css: the part commented out makes it not work with IE but it does work with FF, but when i put it in, it's the other way around. Can anyone figure out why? Right not the navbar is set up to work with IE but not FF. It looks like it's wraping or something in FF. The html part is at the bottom of the post.


Code:

#logonav{
   margin-top : 0px;
   margin-left : auto;
   width : 588px;
   display : inline;
}

#logonav ul {
   margin : 0;
   padding : 0;
   white-space : nowrap;
   list-style : none;
}

/*
#navbar img{
   float : left;
}
*/

#logonav li {
   float : left;
   background : url(http://www.thekiwieffect.com/img/button_up.gif) no-repeat;
   width : 98px;
   text-align : center;
   margin-left : 0px; /* button spacing from each other */
}

#logonav li a {
   font : Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
   text-decoration : none;
   display : block;
   line-height : 43px; /* trick provided by trx */
   height : 43px;
   color : #cf0202;
   font-size: 11px;
   font-weight: bold;
}

#logonav li a:hover {
   background : url(http://www.thekiwieffect.com/img/button_down.gif) no-repeat;
   color : #494949;
}

html:

Code:

<td colspan='2'>
<span id='navbar'>
<img width='74' border='0' height='43' src='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/img/grade.gif' /><img height='43' src='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/img/nav_left.jpg' width='3' />
<div id='logonav'>
<ul>
<li>
<a href='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/gallery'>Image Gallery</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/forum'>Forum</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/news'>News</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/games'>Games</a>
</li>
<li><a href='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/index.php'>To be added</a>
</li>
<li><a href='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/index.php'>To be added</a>
</li>
</ul>
</div>
<img height='43' src='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/img/nav_right.jpg' width='3' />
<img height='43' src='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/img/grade.gif' width='50' border='0' />
<a href='http://www.thekiwieffect.com'>
<img height='43' alt='Home' src='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/img/m08.gif' width='28' border = '0' /></a>
<a href='mailto:thethreesombreros@thekiwieffect.com'><img height='43' alt='E-Mail' src='http://www.thekiwieffect.com/img/m09.gif' width='34' border='0' /></a>
</span>

</td></tr>

And the table tag it's in looks like this:
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="780" align="center">

thanks

Can different browsers interpret CSS differently because of the order you put things in?

I have the following CSS in my website

Code:

div#container
{
	background-color: #FFFFFF;
	border: 1px solid #FBFBFB;
	width: 660px;
	height: 250px;
	padding: 5px;
	margin-left: 50px;
	margin-top: 5px;
}

div#left
{
	float: left;
	clear: right;
	width: 350px;
	height: 250px;
	background-color: #FF7800;
}

div#right
{
	float: left;
	clear: right;
	width: 350px;
	height: 250px;
	background-color: #F3F3F3;
	margin-left: 5px;
}

and the html

Code:

<div id="container">
   <div id="left"></div>
   <div id="right"></div>
</div>

in IE it works fine, the layout is next to each other in a box but in safari (on mac) the right hand box is position below the left hand one...

You can see the site at http://www.impulsive-solutions.co.uk/isnoname/

Hi,

I designing a webpage and realized that different browsers such as IE, Opera and FF interpret CSS differently. In order to ensure most of the browsers display the page in the same way, what should I do?

Thank you.

Hi;

I don't mind writing straight CSS with a text editor; my big problem is cross-browser compatibility -- getting all those tweaks for everything you do to include ie 5, 6 & 7 (I guess we can drop 5 by now).

To that end, I don't object to using an IDE or other tool to develop cross browser CSS. So my question is, what is/are the best resources available to handle the cross-browser issues; from broken box model, etc.

** I know about ie7-js from Dean Edwards, but I don't know how well that works.

** I know about some CSS IDE's like Aptana & Stylizer; but again I don't really know how well they handle these issues.

** And I would like to hope there are some sites out there with total references that tells you everything you need to know about cross browser CSS, though all I've found so far are piecemeal articles; how to handle this or that aspect.

So in short, I don't expect one magic bullet (though that would be nice), but I'm looking for pointers to and evaluations of various resources that could be maybe used together to make this problem a little easier.

Thanks