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CSS - Simple Css & Xhtml Cross-browser Problem
I'm working on a little project here, trying to design a table-less page using XHTML and style sheets.
The first version worked only in IE, Mozilla and Opera didn't display them the way I wanted to. So I rebuilt the stylesheet from scratch with cross-browser compatibility in mind and it sort of works in all three browsers, except for one little bit: http://gosh.ex.ac.uk/~cs01kb/lg_sample/ Stylesheet: http://gosh.ex.ac.uk/~cs01kb/lg_sample/css/main.css IE6 and Opera 7 correctly display the little bar at the bottom with all the links, but Mozilla Firefox 0.8 doesn't - it displays it under the two main content boxes. I'm just out of ideas on how to try and make it work, it should be so simple. Any help on how to get around it would be appreciated. P.S.: If you're using any other browser out there (especially on a Mac) just a quick note or a screenie of what the page looks like would be nice... thanks! Similar TutorialsOkay, my layout is css, and the problem is with my footer, and bottom links. In mozilla, they look the way i want them to, but for IE, they are positioned too low, and the bottom links are unreadable. Take a look - www.funny-guys.com The Code: #bottomlinks { margin:0px 0px 20px 0px; padding:0px; font-size:10px; color:#999999; text-align:center; div#footer { margin: 0px 0px 12px 0px; font-size:60%; text-align:center; padding:0; } Thanks Hi there folks, Im about to go insane with this one. My site is akamarketing.com and you will notice on the left there is various elements about me & my blog which display fine in IE but the text continues across (without confining to its parent div width specification) in opera and firefox. According to my stats 25% are firefox so I do of course need to fix this issue. The css and html for one broken section is Code: <div align=center style="text-align:CENTER; border:<?=$bordersize ?>px dashed #000000; margin:2px; width:185px; padding:2px; margin-top:2px; margin-bottom:0px; padding 7px; float:left; margin-left:7px; padding-bottom:0px;"> <table border=0 style="border:0px dashed black;"><tr><td style="text-align:left;"><img title="David Callan" style="margin: 0px 5px 0px 0px; padding-top: 0px; border: #000000 1px solid" alt="David Callan" src="http://www.akamarketing.com/images/davesmall.gif" align="left" vspace="0" hspace="0"/>Welcome. I'm <a href="http://www.akamarketing.com/blog/about-dave/" title="Read more about Dave on our blog"><font color="#22229C">Dave Callan</font></a>, a 24 year old SEOer & Web developer from Ireland. I've been doing design, development, seo, ppc, Internet marketing etc. since I was about 15. This site is my canvas!</td></tr></table> </div> Can anyone help me with this? I've tried a couple of things mostly around float properties but no joy. Thanks in advance for any help. I'm new to CSS layouts, and being a relic who was always happy using tables, it's causing me some headaches! My latest conundrum involves trying to align a row of text to the bottom of an otherwise empty div. Here is my attempt, using colors for illustration only. (This is of course only a simplified version of my design, so while the "outer" DIV might look superfluous it has to be there. In my real design it is wider and contains three DIVs side by side - "box3" being just one of them.) Code: <html>
<head>
<style type="text/css">
#outer {
position: absolute;
float: left;
width: 228px;
height: 196px;
margin-top: 0px;
}
#box3 {
float:left;
width:228px;
height:196px;
background-color: green;
text-align:right;
display: table;
#position: relative;
overflow: hidden;
font-weight:bold;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="outer">
<div id="box3">
<div style=" #position: absolute; #top: 50%;display: table-cell; ">
<div style=" #position: relative; #top: -50%; background-color: yellow;">
<p style="bottom:0;right:0;position:absolute; background-color: red;">
some <i>text goes here</i>
</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
It looks fine in Firefox and Chrome, even if I don't quite understand why the text is elevated slightly from the bottom - that's okay. But in Internet Explorer, the text is nearer the top, and squashed to the right-hand side so that it's forced to wrap onto multiple lines. The forum won't let me post an image so see if you can decipher this URL: ht tp :// i49 .tiny pic. com /j8znti.png Can anyone help me adjust the code so that it displays in IE the same way as in Firefox and Chrome? I'd really like to understand why it's so different and how to prevent a similar problem in future. Many thanks! Anyone have any recommendations on a good program to check cross browser stuff. I am tired of having to open every browser up to check my sites. Also, anyone know any good links for getting better at coding for cross browser CSS? Thanks! i have a web site that i am redesigning and the redesign is @ http://cometosandiego.com/weekendvisit/index.php it shows up GREAT in firefox screwed in opera and COMPLETLY out of wack in IE 6 and 7 what to do???? thanks Hi; I don't mind writing straight CSS with a text editor; my big problem is cross-browser compatibility -- getting all those tweaks for everything you do to include ie 5, 6 & 7 (I guess we can drop 5 by now). To that end, I don't object to using an IDE or other tool to develop cross browser CSS. So my question is, what is/are the best resources available to handle the cross-browser issues; from broken box model, etc. ** I know about ie7-js from Dean Edwards, but I don't know how well that works. ** I know about some CSS IDE's like Aptana & Stylizer; but again I don't really know how well they handle these issues. ** And I would like to hope there are some sites out there with total references that tells you everything you need to know about cross browser CSS, though all I've found so far are piecemeal articles; how to handle this or that aspect. So in short, I don't expect one magic bullet (though that would be nice), but I'm looking for pointers to and evaluations of various resources that could be maybe used together to make this problem a little easier. Thanks I am having problem making this cross browser friendly Code:
/* Div Structure */
#heading {
margin: 0;
position: relative;
top: -20px;
background-color:#0066CC;
}
#search {
float: left;
}
#img {
float:left;
}
#text {
float:right;
}
#phone {
position: relative ;
float: right ;
top: 15px ;
right: 10px
}
#head {
margin: 5px ;
padding: 0;
height: 195px;
background-color: #FDFCFF;
border: solid;
border-color: #0066CC;
border-width: 2px;
background-color: #FDFCFF;
}
#headnav {
float: right ;
margin: 100px 17px 5px 10px;
padding: 0;
}
#sidebar {
float: left ;
background-color:#FDFCFF;
border-width:2px;
border-style:solid;
border-color: #0066CC;
padding: 10px;
width: 170px;
margin: 2px;
margin-top: 5px;
height: 530px ;
}
#mainpage {
float: right;
position:relative;
width: 730px ;
right: -5px;
left: -5px;
border: solid;
border-color: #0066CC;
border-width: 2px;
background-color: #FDFCFF;
margin-top: 5px;
}
/* Side Bar */
#sidebar h3 {
color:black;
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: 0.2em;
margin: 5px;
padding: 0px;
text-transform: uppercase;
border-bottom:dashed;
border-bottom-color:black;
border-width: 1px;
}
#sidebar ul, #sidebar ol {
list-style: none;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}
#sidebar li {
margin: 0;
list-style:none;
padding: 0;
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size:12px;
}
#sidebar a {
color: #9999FF;
text-decoration:none;
}
#sidebar a:hover {
color: black;
text-decoration:underline;
}
#sidebar div {
margin: 20px 0;
padding: 0;
}
/* Header Style */
#head h1 {
font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif ;
letter-spacing: 0.5em;
font-size: 2em;
color: black;
}
#head a {
color: black;
text-decoration: none;
}
/* Head Nav */
#headnav a {
color: black;
text-decoration:none;
}
#headnav a:hover {
text-decoration:underline;
}
#headnav p {
color:black;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size:0.1em;
}
/* Main Page */
#mainpage img {
padding: 10px;
}
#mainpage h2 {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color:black;
letter-spacing: 0.5em;
font-style: bold ;
border-bottom: solid;
border-bottom-color:#0066CC;
border-bottom-width: 2px;
}
#mainpage p {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
}
#mainpage li {
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
}
#mainpage h3 {
font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
border-bottom: dotted;
border-bottom-color: black;
border-bottom-width: 1px ;
latter-spacing: 0.2 em;
font-size:18px;
}
#mainpage a {
color: #910B2D;
text-decoration:none;
}
#mainpage a:hover {
color:silver;
text-decoration:underline;
}
/* Phone */
#phone p {
color: black ;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 18px ;
}
/* Heading's */
#heading h2 {
color: white;
}
This template works perfectly in firefox (as I want it) but the background-images won't show and the margin/padding shows wrong. When I validate the CSS in firefox, it goes through, but when I do it in IE, it tells me that the id's are suppose to be used for block elements. I've done a search and read up on this over at w3schools but it was fruitless. I would like for it too look in IE the way it does in FF. I think it has something to do with the header or some part of the id's, because that feels a bit odd coding from my part. Please excuse the poorly formatted CSS, as the first part of it was made online where you had to use space to format it. Here is my source code: css Code: Original - css Code <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> <title>Omega Destiny</title> <style type="text/css"> body { background-color: #CCCCCC; color: #FFFFFF; } a:link { text-decoration:none; color: #104E8B; background-color: #E8E8E8; } a:hover { text-decoration: none; color: #104E8B; background-color: #E8E8E8; } a:visited { text-decoration:none; color: #104E8B; background-color: #E8E8E8; } a:active { text-decoration: none; color: #104E8B; background-color: #E8E8E8; } #wrapper { width:900px; margin:0px auto; text-align: center; } #header { height:100px; background-color: #CCCCCC; background-image: url(http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/1419/banner7sy.jpg); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: left; color: #FFFFFF; } #cornernav { text-align: center; float:right; width: 580px; background-color: #E8E8E8; color: #000000; border: 1px solid #000000; height: 99px; } #cornernav h2 { background-image: url(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/664/maintitle8wo.jpg); text-align: center; font-size:100%; height:1em; line-height:1.6em; padding-bottom: 9px; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; bottom: -1px; } #cornernav p { margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; margin-top: -10px; } #sidenav { float: left; width: 18%; background-color: #E8E8E8; color: #000000; border: 1px solid #000000; } #sidenav a:link { text-decoration: none; color: #000000; font-weight: bold; background-color: #E8E8E8; } #sidenav a:hover { text-decoration: none; color: #104E8B; font-weight: bold; background-color: #E8E8E8; } #sidenav a:visited { text-decoration: none; color: #000000; font-weight: bold; background-color: #E8E8E8; } #sidenav a:active { text-decoration: none; color: #000000; font-weight: bold; background-color: #E8E8E8; } #sidenav h2 { background-image: url(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/664/maintitle8wo.jpg); text-align: center; font-size:100%; height:1em; line-height:1.6em; padding-bottom: 9px; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; bottom: -1px; } #sidenav p { margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; margin-top: -10px; } #content { float: right; text-align: left; width: 80%; background-color: #E8E8E8; color: #000000; border: 1px solid #000000; } #content p { margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; } #content h2 { background-image: url(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/664/maintitle8wo.jpg); text-align: center; font-size:100%; height:1em; line-height:1.6em; padding-bottom: 9px; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; bottom: -1px; } /* .footer { text-align:center; float:right; font-size:12px; color: #000000; margin-bottom: 20px; width: 80%; background-color: #E8E8E8; } */ </style> </head> <body> <div id="wrapper"> <div id="header"> <div id="cornernav"> <h2>Interent Service</h2> <p> This is a box designed to be a short and comprehensive. You can use it to give a statement for what the website is about, a quote or simply some random text. Anything goes, since you are the one that is going to use it. There is enough space for three full lines of text. Enjoy! </p> </div></div> <br /> <div id="sidenav"> <h2>Site Navigation</h1><br /> <p><a href="#">Home</a><br /> <a href="#">About</a><br /> <a href="#">Contact Us</a><br /> <a href="#">Portfolio</a><br /></p> </div> <div id="content"> <h2>Omega Destiny</h2> <p><a href="#">Welcome</a> to my website template called Omega Destiny. It is a big improvement from my previous design called "Arcane Flame" and is meant to have a very professional look with its gray theme. Omega Destiny is table-less and entirely based on divs.</p> </div> <!-- <div class="footer"> Design by "Moridin". Copyright 2006 All Rights Reserved. </div> --> </div> </body> </html> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> Any and all help and comments is appreciated. Best Regards, Moridin I know there are a lot of articles lying around about this problem, but im having trouble with css layout for a site im working on, in IE6.0 the site displays as it should do. in Opera 7.23 + 7.11 the site displays with the main text sitting on the logo for the page, in firefox it displays as it does in opera. I am using includes for the full page with no html in the index.php page, i have tried this without includes bur get the same problems as before. the site addy is: http://www.kptspanishproperties.org.uk any help wpuld be great, also im not using tables just using css for all the layout needed Hi there, I am reposting this question after removing the extraneous items from the site. Basically, I can get things to line up in either IE or FF, but not both, I have managed to solve this with past sites, but can't seem to figure this one out! Currently I have it set so it is correctly displayed in IE: http://www.kohlrbaby.com/vcc/portfolio/portfolio.htm Please, please help me to figure out how to do fixes for this issue, I have been searching online but can't seem to figure it out and am very frustrated! Thanks so much and here is my CSS: body { margin: 0px 0px 30px 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: #999999; text-align: center; } #title{ margin-top:0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left:0px; position: relative; float: left; clear: left; } #rightBox { border-right: 2px solid #666666; width:625px; padding: 0px; border-top: 2px solid #666666; border-bottom: 2px solid #666666; border-left: 2px solid #666666; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left:0px; background: #ffffff; } .mainPic { margin-top: -475px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 30px; position:relative; float: left; clear: left; z-index: 100; } img.pic{ border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-top: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom: 1px solid #000000; border-left: 1px solid #000000; } PS: i know I don't need to have all my margin positions shown (ie: may eventually become margin: 0px), however I have kept it like this until I figure out what my problems are. I'm designing a site with a combination of css and tables and I've run into some issues w/IE. I've got some content in a nested table <table id="content"> <tr> <td> Content... </> </> </table> and in my style sheet i have #content{ padding-left:20px; ... } Firefox recognizes this property just fine and displays the table slightly indented, but IE seems to completely miss it. I have figured out a few workarounds, but they end up causing more problems and there are also other thigns that IE has been missing.. Does anyone know what might be causing this? ALSO i have a <div id=divider> inside a td w/css props as width:1px and height:100% and background-color:#000000. again, firefox recognizes this and displays a black line that is the height of the td and 1 px wide, but IE displays a little midget line thats like 10px tall instead of the entire height of the cell. wtf? Hello, My pages all validate XHTML 1.0 Strict. My CSS Validates 2.1 ...except when I uploaded it then I get this error fives times: Parse Error opacity=0) Anyway, I thought by creating valid pages most browsers would render them correctly ----WRONGE! It seems IE 6 compresses my pages just enough to make the center column jump down under the two side columns, creating a big hole at the top. In IE 5.5 the pages look like a wild dog completely mangle them. FireFox can't seem to understand Javascript and my picture fader screen is blank and the Nav Bar is always on. Seems IE 7 is the only one who can get it right. Thank goodness for Microsoft! I was wondering how to resolve these problems. Seems I read somewhere that one could create different stylesheets for different browsers and use javascript to run them. I know nothing about javascript except how to paste it in. But I need someway to get my pages to work in FireFox and IE 6 at least. The name of the site is mybelovedangels dot com. Any Suggestions? Thanks Hi, I have a template that works perfectly in Internet Explorer, but doesn't work well in all the other browsers. Here is the template: http://www.gmaptools.com/redemo/format.html (The scrollbar located on the right of the page doesn't contain to 100% height in the other browsers) The entire page must stay at 100% height and 100% width, and work in the other browsers the same way it works in Internet Explorer. Does anyone know why it isn't working in the other browsers? I need it to work in: 1. Internet Explorer (Windows) 2. FireFox (Windows & Mac) 3. Opera (Windows) 4. Safari (Mac) I really appreciate any assistance you can give me. Thanks in advance, Hi all, I'm relatively new to pure CSS (as opposed to hacking tables together) and I'm experiencing a cross-browser inconsistency that I'm hoping I can get help with. I've created a table using DIVS as follows (I've given just one line as an example): Code: <div id='dashed_box'> <div class='divleft'>Company Name:</div><div class='divright'><input type='text' name='company_name' size='32' class='boxes'></div> <div class='spacer'> </div> </div> And the CSS is this: Code: #dashed_box
{
border: 1px dashed #333333;
margin:5 auto;
padding:5 auto;
width: 600px;
}
.divleft {
font-family: verdana;
font-size: 12px;
line-height: 20px;
float: left;
text-align: right;
color: #000;
width: 49%;
}
.divright {
font-family: verdana;
font-size: 10px;
float: right;
text-align: left;
font-weight: bold;
color: #000;
width: 49%;
}
div.spacer {
clear: both;
}
..In IE7 the box is laid out perfectly, as I wanted it to: ..but in FireFox 5.0, it is laid out as follows, which I don't want: Can anyone point out what I might be doing wrong? Or might it be a case of defining HTTP_USER_AGENT and specifying CSS depending on browser? All help appreciated. Woolyg. Okay, I'm about 6 steps into an effort to redo a section of my site... And while I swear I started out using a DIV/CSS based layout that worked in ALL browsers suddenly that is no longer the case. What I'm trying for is a navigation bar that stays fixed to the left... to the right of it are esentially 4 stacked areas: 1) the top header should stay glued to the top. 2) a middle content area that should flex reletive to the things around it 3) the second-from the bottom thing stays glued to the bottom, but has a bottom margin to place it above the footer. 4) the bottom footer should stay glued to the bottom. It works in all of my Mac browsers (Safari, Firefox, IE) as well as Firefox for windows. But IE 6.x for Windows insists on displaying all of the right-side elements way down the page... below the end of the left navigation. I simply can not force it to float/wrap to the right. Here is what I've got: http://digipix.jeffntom.com/TEMPLATE_UI-5.php Ignore the whiz-bang JavaScript stuff displaying the images, etc... and help me figure out what's up with my DIV/CSS? Here is the Div structu html4strict Code: Original - html4strict Code <div id="leftnav"> ...leftnav stuff... </div> <div id="rightbody"> <div id="header"> 1) Right-Top: ...header area... </div> <div id="content"> 2) Right-Middle: ...large image area... </div> <div id="thumbnails"> 3) Right-Lower: ....image thumbnail area... </div> <div id="footer"> 4) Right-Bottom: ...footer area... </div> </div> <div id="leftnav"> Here is the CSS: css Code: Original - css Code #leftnav { margin: 0; padding: 0; position: fixed; top:0px; width: 200px; bottom: 1px; // this locks the div to the browser bottom (minus 1px) float: left; background:#cccccc; valign: bottom; } /* this is a container that holds everything except the left navitation */ #rightbody { /* width: 100%; */ } #header { position: fixed; top: 0px; margin-left: 212px; margin-right: 0px; background: #ffffff; } #content { margin-top: 60px; margin-left: 212px; margin-right: 0px; background: #ffffff; } #thumbnails { position: fixed; bottom: 51px; margin-left: 210px; margin-right: 10px; background: #ffffff; } #footer { position: fixed; bottom: 0px; margin-left: 200px; margin-right: 10px; background: #ffffff; }
On this site http://www.freewaytransmissions.com I am having issues with the spacing on the navigation. The nav is an ul and I used inline css for spacing the links apart, but as you see in Chrome they are spaced correctly, but in IE they are not aligned correctly. If someone can shed some light I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Tom I was wondering if anyone knows of downloadable software for cross-browser testing (other than downloading all browsers manually). I know there are several websites that offer these features, but I'd like downloadable software as well. It would be even better if it offered some emulators for mobile device browsers as well.... Anyways, just wondering if anyone knows of anything good other than the online web service ones. Ok, so I've having some problems getting a webpage I'm designing looking good (I'm better at the "behind the scenes" coding, not so much the visual part). Anyway, I'm having some problems in Firefox and even more in IE, so here goes. In Firefox I want it to extend all the way to the bottom of the page, I tried adding "min-height:100%" to the container's styles, but that doesn't work. Can I not use a percent for the min-height? If I directly declare the height to be 100%, then the body can expand outside of the container rather than the container expanding with it. I also want to make sure that the body is always completely filling the container. The page in question is he http://www.magicsoftinc.com/michigans_edition/ My styles are below and you can view the page source or use Firebug to see the elements I'm talking about Code: a:link {
color:black;
text-decoration:underline;
}
a:active {
color:black;
text-decoration:none;
}
a:hover {
color:black;
text-decoration:none;
}
a:visited {
color:black;
text-decoration:underline;
}
body {
background-color:#BBCCFF;
font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
margin-bottom:0;
margin-top:0;
}
div {
border:0px solid #FF0000;
border-top-width:0;
}
img {
border-width:0;
}
.even{
background-color:#FFCCBB;
}
.odd {
background-color:#BBCCFF;
}
.preload{
display:none;
left:-9001px;
position:absolute;
top:-9001px;
}
#background {
height:100%;
left:0;
margin:0;
overflow:hidden;
padding:0;
position:absolute;
top:0;
width:100%;
z-index:-9001;
}
#backgroundLeft{
position:fixed;
top:0;
left:0;
height:100%;
}
#backgroundRight{
position:fixed;
top:0;
right:0;
height:100%;
}
#body {
background-color:#FFFFFF;
color:#000000;
min-height:250px;
}
#container {
border:1px solid black;
border-bottom-width:0;
border-top-width:0;
height:100%;
margin:0 auto 0 auto;
min-height:100%;
min-width:760px;
width:95%;
}
#diggThis {
background-color:transparent;
margin-left:-27px;
z-index:-9001;
}
#footer {
background-color:#FFFFFF;
text-align:center;
font-size:small;
}
#header {
background-color:#000000;
height:271px;
}
#leftMenu {
background-color:#BBCCFF;
float:left;
margin-right:4px;
padding:4px;
width:260px;
}
#main {
min-width:500px;
padding:4px;
}
#main .title {
font-size:xx-large;
font-weight:bold;
}
#menu {
background-image:url("images/menuGradient.png");
background-repeat:repeat-x;
border-top:1px solid #7E7E7E;
border-bottom:1px solid #4E4E4E;
color:#FFFFFF;
font-weight:900;
height:35px;
position:relative;
top:-35px;
}
#menu a:link {
color:white;
text-decoration:underline;
}
#menu a:active {
color:white;
text-decoration:none;
}
#menu a:hover {
color:white;
text-decoration:none;
}
#menu a:visited {
color:white;
text-decoration:underline;
}
#menu .button {
background-image:url("images/menuButtonUp_blue.png");
background-position:center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
color:#FFFFFF;
font-weight:600;
height:35px;
overflow:hidden;
padding:0;
text-align:center;
width:106px;
}
#menu table {
padding:0;
text-align:center;
width:100%;
}
#menu tr {
padding:0;
}
#userPanel {
position:absolute;
right:3%;
top:136px;
width:200px;
height:100px;
background-color:#BBCCFF;
}
Im not a newbie to CSS but I am still a bit new to hand coding and div positioning. heres the link - http://members.cox.net/tekjock/test/ the body section I want it to be bottom 5px Left 5px right 5px I can get it to look good in firefox but IE it looks like crap. I have tried the above and it does not work. Any suggestions Thanks |
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